The BEST Smoke System
12-19-2006, 02:27 PM
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RE: The BEST Smoke System
well we had some strong winds last weekend, hoping to try it out this coming weekend, if not i may rig something up in my yard to run it
you guys who have tried diesel, why do some say straight and some say 50/50 with atf? what does the atf do, make it less messy? make it smoke different somehow? i am just wondering, i have the superdri to start with, but i will expierement after thats gone
you guys who have tried diesel, why do some say straight and some say 50/50 with atf? what does the atf do, make it less messy? make it smoke different somehow? i am just wondering, i have the superdri to start with, but i will expierement after thats gone
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RE: The BEST Smoke System
grass killer a? i was thinking of taking it just off my property to the field behind my house anyway
, i figure i'd make a mess with the fuel too, it not really green grass here anyhow, more like straw type weads and dirt, ideally i want to take it out to fly, we'll just see what the weather brings, i dont mind the cold too much, but it was crazy windy last weekend, a cold front came through and blew saturday and sunday... now if my wife would do that fine[sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
, i figure i'd make a mess with the fuel too, it not really green grass here anyhow, more like straw type weads and dirt, ideally i want to take it out to fly, we'll just see what the weather brings, i dont mind the cold too much, but it was crazy windy last weekend, a cold front came through and blew saturday and sunday... now if my wife would do that fine[sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
12-23-2006, 07:10 PM
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RE: The BEST Smoke System
well i am starting to think i should have gotten the tme pump, the sullivan worked great, lots of smoke, really cool, the "elders" at the field were digging it, then the 3rd flight, the piece of sh&t stopped working[:@], i thought maybe i was out of fluid already, after landing i noticed there was half a tank still, tried the pump and it kinda made a faint, high pitch whiney sound, like its locked up already, i didnt run it dry, tried a different battery, same thing, blew in it, took it apart but its a sealed motor in there so i really cant do anything with it, without maybe messing up the warranty, so i called tower and there customer service people are out until teusday, so i am smokeless for a while i guess, i am none too happy with this pump so far, it worked good but it needs to be reliable...and i know when i 1st linked on here i read about others with problems with this pump[>:], we'll see what happens i guess
12-23-2006, 07:16 PM
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That sucks..Sullivan has DA'like customer service so Im sure they will replace it....Honestly..I had 3 TME's and I had to send 2 of them back so nothing is a real guarantee..And TME is a good company but you never know..It seems either you get a good one or a bad one from whatever company.
12-24-2006, 08:59 AM
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i did notice when i 1st did a search in the forums there seemed to be more threads with sullivan problems then with tme, but o well i bought it anyway, i dont think it will be a problem getting it replaced either, but it sucks to be without it for 2 weeks or so
12-24-2006, 05:24 PM
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i was wondering if mine was stuck with something, but you cant get in there, i do use a filter, i tried blowing air in both ends, tried reversing the servo to see if that would do anything, shook it around, tapped on it, nothing, its fu&*%d i guess
01-03-2007, 04:40 PM
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RE: The BEST Smoke System
well so far i cannot reccommend sullivan to anyone, they gave me a choice of either po box or ups, i sent my bad pump back(3 flights since new) to there po box, post office says it was delivered thursday the 28, sullivan says they dont have it????, they are supposed to look around and get back with me, its been almost a week since it got there, i know there was a holiday but still, this is messed up, i insured it with the post office but since it was delivered i dont know if i can do anything with them, so far i have to say my experience with sullivan totally sucks, nothing good what so ever[:@]
01-03-2007, 05:11 PM
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RE: The BEST Smoke System
Hey guys, Read this:
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=455]Got Smoke?[/link]
Get this pump:
[link=http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemBrowse/c-10101/s-10101/p-100000214127/mediaCode-ZX/appId-100000214127/Pr-p_CATENTRY_ID:100000214127]$12 pump[/link]
Here are my results:
[link=http://www.rcuvideos.com/view_video.php?viewkey=98dd60a634b2ad8fbbd5]Skybolt video[/link]
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=455]Got Smoke?[/link]
Get this pump:
[link=http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemBrowse/c-10101/s-10101/p-100000214127/mediaCode-ZX/appId-100000214127/Pr-p_CATENTRY_ID:100000214127]$12 pump[/link]
Here are my results:
[link=http://www.rcuvideos.com/view_video.php?viewkey=98dd60a634b2ad8fbbd5]Skybolt video[/link]
01-03-2007, 05:18 PM
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ORIGINAL: MinnFlyer
Hey guys, Read this:
Get this pump:
[link=http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemBrowse/c-10101/s-10101/p-100000214127/mediaCode-ZX/appId-100000214127/Pr-p_CATENTRY_ID:100000214127]$12 pump[/link]
Hey guys, Read this:
Get this pump:
[link=http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemBrowse/c-10101/s-10101/p-100000214127/mediaCode-ZX/appId-100000214127/Pr-p_CATENTRY_ID:100000214127]$12 pump[/link]
Thanks,
Richard
01-03-2007, 05:39 PM
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well so far i cannot reccommend sullivan to anyone, they gave me a choice of either po box or ups, i sent my bad pump back(3 flights since new) to there po box, post office says it was delivered thursday the 28, sullivan says they dont have it????, they are supposed to look around and get back with me, its been almost a week since it got there, i know there was a holiday but still, this is messed up, i insured it with the post office but since it was delivered i dont know if i can do anything with them, so far i have to say my experience with sullivan totally sucks, nothing good what so ever[:@]
well so far i cannot reccommend sullivan to anyone, they gave me a choice of either po box or ups, i sent my bad pump back(3 flights since new) to there po box, post office says it was delivered thursday the 28, sullivan says they dont have it????, they are supposed to look around and get back with me, its been almost a week since it got there, i know there was a holiday but still, this is messed up, i insured it with the post office but since it was delivered i dont know if i can do anything with them, so far i have to say my experience with sullivan totally sucks, nothing good what so ever[:@]
01-03-2007, 07:44 PM
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RE: The BEST Smoke System
Minnflyer - you using that with an ESC to control rpm? THAT would essentially make it the "TME" (which I'm using, and is working so far).
Pumps look REMARKABLY similar! GREAT find.
I shall buy one, just to play.
Pumps look REMARKABLY similar! GREAT find.
I shall buy one, just to play.
01-03-2007, 08:59 PM
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Look closely at the pics of the two pumps and you'll see the difference between the two. The TME pump has capacitors soldered on to reduce radio interference. Just like R/C car motors. Shouldn't be too hard to add to the Whitney pump.
01-03-2007, 10:29 PM
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ORIGINAL: Josey Wales
That stinks...I know how you feel..I did the same as you except it was Slimline muffler..same thing happened..thats why I use UPS, Fed Ex
ORIGINAL: diamondave
well so far i cannot reccommend sullivan to anyone, they gave me a choice of either po box or ups, i sent my bad pump back(3 flights since new) to there po box, post office says it was delivered thursday the 28, sullivan says they dont have it????, they are supposed to look around and get back with me, its been almost a week since it got there, i know there was a holiday but still, this is messed up, i insured it with the post office but since it was delivered i dont know if i can do anything with them, so far i have to say my experience with sullivan totally sucks, nothing good what so ever[:@]
well so far i cannot reccommend sullivan to anyone, they gave me a choice of either po box or ups, i sent my bad pump back(3 flights since new) to there po box, post office says it was delivered thursday the 28, sullivan says they dont have it????, they are supposed to look around and get back with me, its been almost a week since it got there, i know there was a holiday but still, this is messed up, i insured it with the post office but since it was delivered i dont know if i can do anything with them, so far i have to say my experience with sullivan totally sucks, nothing good what so ever[:@]
01-04-2007, 08:46 AM
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I am not using an ESC, I just use a servo-activated microswitch for on and off and I use a home-made flow restrictor (On one plane I use an old needle valve to regulate flow). I have used it on several planes (At least 4) and have not had any interference problems with it. I have used other windshield washer pump that DID cause interference - sometimes severe - but not a lick of problems with this one.
One note: Since it is meant for a 12v system, sometimes the seal is too tight for a 4.8v pack (I have had this happen on 2 of the 4 pumps I have). On one of them, I ran it off my car battery for a while to loosen it up, on the other, I just SLIGHTLY loosened the 4 screws that hold the bottom cover on. All 4 pumps work like a charm now.
Here are some pics of my setup, and again, here's a link to the article I wrote for RCU Magazine:
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=455]Got Smoke?[/link]
One note: Since it is meant for a 12v system, sometimes the seal is too tight for a 4.8v pack (I have had this happen on 2 of the 4 pumps I have). On one of them, I ran it off my car battery for a while to loosen it up, on the other, I just SLIGHTLY loosened the 4 screws that hold the bottom cover on. All 4 pumps work like a charm now.
Here are some pics of my setup, and again, here's a link to the article I wrote for RCU Magazine:
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=455]Got Smoke?[/link]
01-04-2007, 10:03 AM
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ORIGINAL: MinnFlyer
I am not using an ESC, I just use a servo-activated microswitch for on and off and I use a home-made flow restrictor (On one plane I use an old needle valve to regulate flow). I have used it on several planes (At least 4) and have not had any interference problems with it. I have used other windshield washer pump that DID cause interference - sometimes severe - but not a lick of problems with this one.
One note: Since it is meant for a 12v system, sometimes the seal is too tight for a 4.8v pack (I have had this happen on 2 of the 4 pumps I have). On one of them, I ran it off my car battery for a while to loosen it up, on the other, I just SLIGHTLY loosened the 4 screws that hold the bottom cover on. All 4 pumps work like a charm now.
Here are some pics of my setup, and again, here's a link to the article I wrote for RCU Magazine:
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=455]Got Smoke?[/link]
I am not using an ESC, I just use a servo-activated microswitch for on and off and I use a home-made flow restrictor (On one plane I use an old needle valve to regulate flow). I have used it on several planes (At least 4) and have not had any interference problems with it. I have used other windshield washer pump that DID cause interference - sometimes severe - but not a lick of problems with this one.
One note: Since it is meant for a 12v system, sometimes the seal is too tight for a 4.8v pack (I have had this happen on 2 of the 4 pumps I have). On one of them, I ran it off my car battery for a while to loosen it up, on the other, I just SLIGHTLY loosened the 4 screws that hold the bottom cover on. All 4 pumps work like a charm now.
Here are some pics of my setup, and again, here's a link to the article I wrote for RCU Magazine:
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=455]Got Smoke?[/link]
I do need to be able to vary the flow based on throttle position, so that was what prompted my ESC question. A THRO>THRO mix, with an offset properly set, maybe will get me close enough to the multi-point I had with the JR 10X. Now, since converting to Spektrum, I don't have that luxury, so will have to be creative in solutions of this problem.
Any ideas welcomed!
Thanks again!
01-04-2007, 10:20 AM
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RE: The BEST Smoke System
Well, just for the record, my smoke - with a single flow-rate worked well at all throttle settings. And I have used it on a YS 91, YS 110, Saito 150 and Zen G-62 (all with no special mufflers).
Also, if you want to vary the flow with an ESC, I would recommend using a 6v system.
[link=http://www.rcuvideos.com/view_video.php?viewkey=98dd60a634b2ad8fbbd5]Video of YS91 w/ smoke[/link] (Same as "Skybolt" link above)
[link=http://videoserver.rcuniverse.com/rcuvideos/magazine/reviews/573/cevidh.wmv]Video of Saito 150 w/ smoke[/link] Skyshark Christen Eagle
Also, if you want to vary the flow with an ESC, I would recommend using a 6v system.
[link=http://www.rcuvideos.com/view_video.php?viewkey=98dd60a634b2ad8fbbd5]Video of YS91 w/ smoke[/link] (Same as "Skybolt" link above)
[link=http://videoserver.rcuniverse.com/rcuvideos/magazine/reviews/573/cevidh.wmv]Video of Saito 150 w/ smoke[/link] Skyshark Christen Eagle