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Hello Aussiesteve and Ross the engine is a Micron 2,5 R , this french brand has produced some good motors until the late 70's...Chris



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My first engine was a K&B .29 on ignition. Damaged it on my first U/Control flight, sent it in for repair, and bought a K&B .24, on ignition. Same result. Got the .29 back and finally soloed a Goldberg "Zing". All of this was in 1946 or '47. Not too much longer and the glow plug came out, and I ran the Ohlson .23 front rotors, Forester .29, etc. Too many to count now, and loved'em all (well, maybe MOST of them)!

Clair

Since I don't consider the Cox and Testors rear-induction .049s real engines (but rather metal mosquitoes), my first one was an HB .40 PDP...

I learned a lot on it.

It was my only engine to ever shaft-run (wood prop not tightened firmly enough). The only one to ever break the crankshaft (hydraulic-lock and a starter...).

I also made the mistake of soldering an extension for the needle, with the O-ring inside it (old Perry carburettor - the high-speed needle never could hold its settings). I also made it run too lean and need a new ring...

But it was a screamer!
Friends with Webra Speed, Enya and OS FSR engines of the same displacement were amazed [X(] at its abilities.

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Heh-heh, metal mosquitoes. I liked that. <G>

I owned and flew the dickens out of an HB .40 PDP back in the late Seventies/early Eighties. It was discovered that when mounted on a Bridi RCM Trainer 60, the Trainer 60 was actually a great trainer without a power deficit. I used the Trainer 60 as a test bed aircraft for engines and new/repaired radio systems.

The HB .40 PDP was a very nice engine, albeit heavy because it was built in a .50 case. I have four or five of them now.


Ed Cregger

Was that "Zing" or "Zinger" (don't remember which) the one with the machine carved fuselage and wings, the bellcrank out on the wingtip? I flew mine many times powered by that K&B .24 once I got rid of all the ignition stuff and installed a glo-plug. Boy, was that a long time ago. [8D][8D]..........RJ

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Wow, after reading the last two posts, I feel like a youngster once again. I'm too young to have remembered the K&B .24, it seems. Or, perhaps, just grossly uninformed. Thanks, guys, you made my day. <G>

I can remember when Fox and K&B were the primo sport engines of the day. All hail Fox/K&B!


Ed Cregger

The days when K&B and some other engines had the exhaust stack on the left hand side so they'd spit in your face if sidewinder mounted on a ccw flying profile? My oldest Fox is a .15 from about 1960, that's probably powered 12 planes. The oldest K&B I've used is a Stallion 35 I bought about 1969, when they were going for about 6.98, to compete pricewise with the McCoy RH .35. Has probably 700 flights on cl and on a SAM competition Spook 72. I'd use the K&B for competiton and competition practice, and then swap with an OS 35 III rc engine for sport flying. The K&B had noticeably more power. Starting to loose compression and leaking around the cylinder base.

I just about finished replacing the crankcases on my Fox 35 Stunts with the newer crankcases so I can use bolt-on mufflers.

When I returned to RC in 1978 with my first good proportional outfit, I used that almost 20 year old Cub .099 on a Jr. Fledgeling with a Cox 2 channel rig. After staggering around the air for a few underpowered flights, I put on a Cox Golden Bee .049, and had much better flying, till a large boulder jumped out of the ground and hit the plane.

I came into the hobby around 1960, I made a lot of Scientific Kits with carved fuses, Carl Goldberg little jumping bean,then flite streak, ring masters by Sterling, and Carl Goldberg Cosmic Wind , Shoestring.I used Cox 0.49 0.20, Testors Wen Mac 0.49, Ma Coy .35 .29 .60 red heads, Enya .29 and .19, many Fox motors .07, .19 RC and UC, .35 stunt, .36X rat race hop ups,Veco .35 and .19, my first RC motor was a Enya .35 RC with a strap on muffler it ran good and I still have it.It is good to think of the past and how far the hobby has progressed over the years.
Dan

RJ, the Goldberg Zing is the one you were thinking of.....solid carved fuselage, with the inside routed out, and indeed, the bellcrank mounted on the wing tip, with a cable that ran through a tube down the wing and back down the fuselage to the elevators. Went pretty well with the K&B .29 on ignition, and would have been great with glow power, but mine was worn out before the glow plug came out.

And RJ and I are glad that we made some of you "youngsters" day!

Clair

.o49 cox but a friend of mine has a fox twin never ran it does not have the box he bought it new in the 60's anyone know what its worth ? thank you for your help

My first engine was an O & R 23 Ign. in 1947, if I was lucky, I could get it to start and run long enough to get ONE flight in on a Control Line Plane on a Saturday at the school yard near my house. (the noise of others flying control line, is what got me headed in that direction and started my interest in model engines.)

My second engine was an O & R 23 GLOW. Now I could go to the school yard and get about 6 to 10 flights in on a Saturday. I NEVER went back to Ign. engines. I fly SAM Radio assist because I can use GLOW ENGINES.

Ralph

The little O&R 23 glow was a jewel in those times, for sure! I remember the instructions said to break it in very rich, get it started, richen it, and then remove the battery from the glow plug. With all my 8th grade wisdom, I said to myself "it'll stop as soon as I pull the battery, like my ignition K&Bs do". But I marvelled that it kept plugging along, blowing smoke and castor all over me. The ignition K&Bs didn't have the compression or the metallurgy to handle glow very well, even with the higher compression heads they sold. Like you, I could put in half a dozen flights (U/Control) with the O&R with no problems whatsoever. Fun days for sure!

Clair

Anderson Spitfire .049 great little motor..........flew many u-controls with it.

Fox 35 RC. I couldn't afford an electric starter back then, but lucky for me it was not too difficult to make run.!

Webra Winner 2.5cc diesel for U control model (in 1958)

Jacques

An .045 Baby Spitfire followed by a Forester 29 glow longer ago than I care to remember.

My first engine was a McCoy 29 about 1956 or so. Broke it in and ran it a lot but ended up selling it to a neighbor, never got the airplane, a Ring Master, finished. Had to cut a lot of yards to buy that engine.

Cheers,

Chip

An old ED Bee 1cc diesel, closely followed by an ED .46cc Baby and a Taipan 1.5cc.

OS .40FP, 1994.

Puts those 40la of today to shame!

First engine, a .29 Pierce, about 1946 or 7, had 3 planes, 2 control line and 1 free flight, just changed the engine when I wanted to fly each one, was flying it when the glow plug came out about 47 or so, thought I had died and gone to heaven couldn`t wait to get all the condensers etc, stripped out of the planes, and my fingers healed up from changing the timing up behind the prop, still have the Pierce, don`t know why as I never touched another plane or motor till 2001, and then went ballistic, have way to many now.....thanx...John

OS 40 FP here too. Probably early nineties vintage but I bought it barely used from someone in my club who got me started in the hobby around 1998. I paid $40 for it and he gave me a bunch of stuff for my flight box too. Another reason this is a great hobby.

First R/C engine was a Fox .25 RC. You haven't lived until you've hand started a older vintage, fresh from the box Fox out on the ice...in a northern Michigan winter. I did, and I wouldn't trade those experiences (and memories) for all the tea in China.

There's been plenty of other Foxes in the hangar since then. YES....I'm a Fox fan.

Just for fun...I bought NIB samples of my "first engines" just so I don't lose track of where I came from.

God Bless R/C!!

HB .40 PDP and I still have it and it runs fine.

First gas burner (O.K. Nitro burner) was an O.K. Cub .049 on an ARF (Fly baby?)....then moved up to a Fox .35 (boy that huge!!). All this around 1953-54, and haven't stopped since