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Old 12-30-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Help!!! I need help setting up a MX 400 Pro

Ok, I got the MX 400 pro and I need help setting it up with the futaba 6exp. One more question, I hooked the motor up with the speed control and I notice that the motor is making a buzzing noise and vibrating but will not rotate after a while it runs. is there a problem with the speed conrol or motor?

Thanks for your help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 12-30-2007, 12:15 PM
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98 c-5, you might want to be more specific about your questions on the radio setup. The motor behavior sounds like the timing of the ESC is not right for the motor. If the ESC is programmable, try experimenting with it (my first choice would be retarding it a bit).
Old 12-30-2007, 12:29 PM
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I need help setting everything up. Starting with the basics
Old 12-30-2007, 01:32 PM
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OK, well is it your first CCPM heli? If so you probably should start with the complete background-- look for TMorita's Electronic Heli Beginners' Guide, or the two CCPM videos from Finless on helifreak (latter requires registration there, but he walks you through all the steps of setting up the heli and the radio). Take a stroll through those and it will all make much more sense.
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OK, well is it your first CCPM heli? If so you probably should start with the complete background-- look for TMorita's Electronic Heli Beginners' Guide, or the two CCPM videos from Finless on helifreak (latter requires registration there, but he walks you through all the steps of setting up the heli and the radio). Take a stroll through those and it will all make much more sense.

Thanks for you help. this is actually my second heli. I started with a axe cp. The first heli build myself. I've went thur both manuels and had some questions on how to set the d/r,epa,n-th,n-pi,i-th,i-pi,hold inh,revo inh, and gyro inh,sw-t inh swsh 1-5. sorry i wasn't able to communicate well of what I need help with.
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No prob, man, just trying to avoid going around and around . The best place to start is to begin with a newly initialized heli model, and do nothing to d/r, epa, pitch or throttle curves, hold, revo or gyro (leave them all at defaults). Set the swash type to S-3 and reverse the throttle channel, then take a read through section 13 of the EHBG mentioned above (www.swashplate.co.uk to download); whenever it mentions specific radios, you'll want to pay attention to the 9C instructions (for example, when setting the swash AFR), but consult the 6EX manual for where the settings are (they're similar settings as on the 9C, but the menu structure is different). The Finless vids on CCPM setup take you through it in more detail.

If you run into difficulty following those, post the question up please. It would take a lot of typing to reproduce the material in those two sources, though, and it probably wouldn't be as good in the end .
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No prob, man, just trying to avoid going around and around . The best place to start is to begin with a newly initialized heli model, and do nothing to d/r, epa, pitch or throttle curves, hold, revo or gyro (leave them all at defaults). Set the swash type to S-3 and reverse the throttle channel, then take a read through section 13 of the EHBG mentioned above (www.swashplate.co.uk to download); whenever it mentions specific radios, you'll want to pay attention to the 9C instructions (for example, when setting the swash AFR), but consult the 6EX manual for where the settings are (they're similar settings as on the 9C, but the menu structure is different). The Finless vids on CCPM setup take you through it in more detail.

If you run into difficulty following those, post the question up please. It would take a lot of typing to reproduce the material in those two sources, though, and it probably wouldn't be as good in the end .
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Default RE: Help!!! I need help setting up a MX 400 Pro

The MX400 Pro is a mechanical mix swashplate not a CCPM.
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So right-- sorry. 1-S swash type, then.

Good catch.
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98 c5

Try this:
Well, if you're Pro looks anything like my Pro you don't use 3-S as your swash setting. You MUST use 1-S.

The transmitter settings should be like this:
RevR screen:
chan 1 nor
chan 2 nor
chan 3 nor
chan 4 rev
chan 5 nor
chan 6 nor

D/R
chan 1 100%
chan 2 100%
chan 3 100%
chan 4 100%

EXPO
chan 1 0%
chan 2 0%
chan 4 0%

EPA
chan 1 70%
chan 2 40%
chan 3 100%
chan 4 60%
chan 5 100%
chan 6 35%

TRIM
all chan at 0% to start out (will change when you fly and trim)

N-TH
1 - 0%
2 - 50%
3 - 70%
4 - 85%
5 - 90%

N-PI
1 - 10%
2 - 30%
3 - 50%
4 - 50%
5 - 68%

I-TH (idle up throttle)
INH (inhibit this while learning or face disaster)trust me on that.

I-PI
Blank

HOLD
0% (set a zero so that if you bump the THHOLD switch by accident you don't go to a high throttle setting. With this switch in the forward position (towards you), your throttle stick will not work).

REVO
INH (don't use with a heading hold gyro)

GYRO
INH (if you have an inflight adjustable gyro then you use this to switch between Heading Hold and Rate gyro.

SWSH
1-S You MUST use this setting if yours is mCCPM like mine. Check the photo and see servo positions. If they are same as mine use 1-S only.

NOTE: These are all settings that will get you up and hovering when your throttle hits about the 50% position. Later, when your hovering well you may want to experiment with these settings. Be SURE to write all these down BEFORE you go changing anything.

Good Luck,
Bob
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98 c5

Try this:
Well, if you're Pro looks anything like my Pro you don't use 3-S as your swash setting. You MUST use 1-S.

The transmitter settings should be like this:
RevR screen:
chan 1 nor
chan 2 nor
chan 3 nor
chan 4 rev
chan 5 nor
chan 6 nor

D/R
chan 1 100%
chan 2 100%
chan 3 100%
chan 4 100%

EXPO
chan 1 0%
chan 2 0%
chan 4 0%

EPA
chan 1 70%
chan 2 40%
chan 3 100%
chan 4 60%
chan 5 100%
chan 6 35%

TRIM
all chan at 0% to start out (will change when you fly and trim)

N-TH
1 - 0%
2 - 50%
3 - 70%
4 - 85%
5 - 90%

N-PI
1 - 10%
2 - 30%
3 - 50%
4 - 50%
5 - 68%

I-TH (idle up throttle)
INH (inhibit this while learning or face disaster)trust me on that.

I-PI
Blank

HOLD
0% (set a zero so that if you bump the THHOLD switch by accident you don't go to a high throttle setting. With this switch in the forward position (towards you), your throttle stick will not work).

REVO
INH (don't use with a heading hold gyro)

GYRO
INH (if you have an inflight adjustable gyro then you use this to switch between Heading Hold and Rate gyro.

SWSH
1-S You MUST use this setting if yours is mCCPM like mine. Check the photo and see servo positions. If they are same as mine use 1-S only.

NOTE: These are all settings that will get you up and hovering when your throttle hits about the 50% position. Later, when your hovering well you may want to experiment with these settings. Be SURE to write all these down BEFORE you go changing anything.

Good Luck,
Bob


Man, thanks so much this will help. I just completed the installation with the heli, do I need to set positive/neg at 8 degrees? and one more question d/r i've only got ch 1,2,4 I don't have ch.3 is that rihgt. Thanks again.
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98-C5

Well your pitch settings depend on how much heli experience you have.

If you have zero experience then I'd try for about positive 8 (+8) and
negative about minus 3 (-3).

You don't want to much negative pitch because when you panic and slam the
throttle to low , you'd SLAM the heli into the ground and that would cause a lot
of damage.

Also, as a new heli pilot you should dial in 25% negative expo so the heli
will not be to sensitive. That would be on channel 1 and 2.

Leave the d/r settings at 100% for now. D/R is useful on airplanes but not
so much on heli's.

Once again...these are just suggestions to get you up and hovering. Later
you will want to experiment.

Bob
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98-C5

Well your pitch settings depend on how much heli experience you have.

If you have zero experience then I'd try for about positive 8 (+8) and
negative about minus 3 (-3).

You don't want to much negative pitch because when you panic and slam the
throttle to low , you'd SLAM the heli into the ground and that would cause a lot
of damage.

Also, as a new heli pilot you should dial in 25% negative expo so the heli
will not be to sensitive. That would be on channel 1 and 2.

Leave the d/r settings at 100% for now. D/R is useful on airplanes but not
so much on heli's.

Once again...these are just suggestions to get you up and hovering. Later
you will want to experiment.

Bob
OK Airman, you've helped me out alot thanks again!!!!!!! This is what I have done so far I've got pos.6 neg.3 will those pitch settings work?[sm=drowning.gif] another question are you guys using the mini pitch gauge or that helimax pitch gauge? I was trying to use the pitch gauage from tower but I THINK IT'S TO BIG.[:@]


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98 c5

Do a seach on the hell forum for 'pitch gages'. Someone put a do-it-yourself
pitch gage on here a couple of months ago. It's simple to make and works great.

Happy Hovering,
AB
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98 c5

Do a seach on the hell forum for 'pitch gages'. Someone put a do-it-yourself
pitch gage on here a couple of months ago. It's simple to make and works great.

Happy Hovering,
AB

Ok thanks!!!
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I see tower hobbies discontinued the MX400
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I see tower hobbies discontinued the MX400

I know, What's up with that.
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I see tower hobbies discontinued the MX400

I know, What's up with that.

LOL...hopefully they re-designed it cause let's face it, it's TRASH out of the box. I got one I'm flying that has metal head, T-Rex tail parts, CNC boom servo mount and other stuff I've done to it and it's fine, and still less than $150 including the 120deg CCPM upgrade. The other MX-400 I have is brand new and I'm going to leave it 180deg, but it did get the metal head, boom servo mount, and T-Rex tail parts, and I'm gonna do some other nit picking stuff to make it better. Fly it out of the box with all stock parts....aint happening.

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