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Old 11-21-2007, 09:01 PM
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What? Me worry? I have a placard on the dash: "No Hard Landings".

Old 11-21-2007, 10:54 PM
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Actually, I studied the assembly instructions for this bird, and down near the end of "retractable landing gear", TopFlite addresses the use of struts. Using a strut and retract setup such as the Robarts I'm using results in a very rigid landing gear. TopFlite says this will give excellent ground handling, but the mounts must be very strong. I believe them. I have struts on my QF-4N, and I way overbuilt the landing gear mounts. I have had no troubles with the gear or the wing, and I've made a couple of way too hard landings.

They don't say it in the instructions, but I believe the wimpy retract mounts supplied in the kit are not meant for anything but wire struts.

Old 11-22-2007, 06:05 AM
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I've kinda given up on mine. Trying to make a scale looking undercarriage for this kit has just drained me.

I really wish I'd just bought Brian Taylor plans instead
Old 11-22-2007, 10:08 AM
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The wing is a bit small and thin for realistic landing gear. The 80 inchers+ would be a lot easier to build. I just happen to prefer planes in the 60-65" span range, for lots of reasons, including cost.
Old 11-23-2007, 12:03 AM
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Was kinda bored tonight so I thought I'd post a couple of pics. I was away from the Mustang for
a while but have been picking up interest lately. I started by carving a new more scale scoop out
of foam, the one pic is of the bottom glass still drying in the mold....I ran out of resin so I'll have
to wait to do the top. I also made the rear door which I hope to be operated by a servo off the
throttle. And of course those D@#N tail gear doors. They don't open like I'd hope but at least
they shut.

Hope you like, SVX
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:42 AM
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I'm gonna try and copy your rad door, SVX, only mine will be fixed, and part of the engine cooling system. (Inverted 91)
Old 11-25-2007, 07:21 PM
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Hey SVX,

Real nice rad and tail wheel doors

My 'stang is back together again! Only took robart over a month to ship the parts out to me[:@]

The parts arrived on Friday and there was a warbirds event at my club on Sunday. She was all back together again, and i ran the engine for the first time since the landing accident, but it was a little too windy for my taste so i didn't get to fly her.

And now I can't wait till the weather clears up!!!

Thanks

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Old 11-25-2007, 08:52 PM
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Default RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build

Bob & SVX
some real nice work there

ticket
good to see you back in the saddle

Old 11-28-2007, 05:27 AM
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Love that B model! Glad to see the subtle appreciation of the "less sexy" early models.
Old 11-30-2007, 04:38 AM
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Here is a manifold I made for this kit. Any input is welcome. I will attach to the flexible aluminum O.S. pipe with a short length of flexible high temp silicone tubing and clamps. I didn't use a jig so it isn't perfect. I think it will be cool to see exhaust come out of these stacks though. Its all fun!
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:19 AM
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Riddle:

I like it

Did you silver solder that together?
Old 11-30-2007, 01:38 PM
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Functional stacks are cool! I considered it with my Spit, but didn't have the room.
Old 11-30-2007, 06:04 PM
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Mustang fever, yes. I hope it withstands the heat. Hopefully the silicone section will keep it cooler by stopping the conductive heat transfer from the engine, and the fairly long flexible pipe may allow for some cooling. I guess i'll find out how restrictive the set up is, fourstrokes should be OK.
Old 11-30-2007, 09:31 PM
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Default RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build

Very, very cool. It'll look great with some flat black when you finish it. Thanks for the ideas...
Bob
Old 11-30-2007, 10:18 PM
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Default RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build

Riddle,

Flat Black (with a touch of brown) would not be correct except inside the exhaust tubes themselves. Here are a couple of pictures of the exhaust on F51D, N 314BG (painted as Petie 2nd). Note that the first tube does not have any white/grey exhaust residue and the rest have more and more deposits the further aft you go with #6 having the most residue.
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:29 AM
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Default RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build

Here's a couple more that fly. Kinda looks like a natural metal color, with some soot that doesn't seem to stay on very long.

I'm doing mine as Val Halla.
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Old 12-01-2007, 05:26 AM
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Skylarkmk1, I appreciate your detailed input! My attempt is already lacking in scale. I think my spacing is off and the angles. I'm just trying to get closer than the included vacuum formed parts and functionality will be nice. It could be the whole mess melts into a big glob on first run of the engine...Ha ha ha ha ha....! I carved out some hardpoints for drop tanks which I'll post soon. Let me know what you all think.
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Oh, and skylarkmk1; terrific pictures of a full scale mustang. Petie is one of my favorites and your shot of the stacks shows how wrong my pipes are. Always room for improvement in this hobby!
Old 12-01-2007, 12:19 PM
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Default RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build

Good discussion going here regarding the exhaust stacks.

In the Detailing Ideas section ( starting near the middle) of my website there are several exhaust stack detailing ideas that came from builders. There might be something of use there.

Interestingly the whitish sooting doesn't seem to be present (or at least as visible) on most service Mustangs, just the currently flying planes. Maybe a product of modern fuels?
Old 12-04-2007, 12:11 AM
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Default RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build

Sorry to change the subject but I was wondering if anyone here thinks the RCV 91 CD would be a good choice for this plane. It seems that everyone is using the SP series for the Mustang. However cool, the SP doesn't fit my budget as well as the CD which will still be fully consealed. Any thoughts? My alternate is a Saito 100 which I love but would protrude below the cowl. Not to mention that darn ugly muffler.
Old 12-04-2007, 10:39 AM
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After much research and consideration, I'm going to use an inverted .91 two stroke in mine, with the Slimline Products wrap around inverted muffler. Everything will fit into the cowl that way, and there is plenty of room right behind the firewall for a 14 oz tank at the proper level. (C/L of tank level with C/L of spray bar in carb)
I have a new Magnum 91 XLS. I'll probably use it. The 91 two strokes may not sound as cool as a 4 stroke, but they turn the same size props at about the same rpm. (14x6 at around 11k)
Old 12-07-2007, 12:58 PM
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The exaust looks great. My only concern is the heat. I finally have my bird ready for another test flight. I took it out last weekend and did some high speed taxies. Unfornately,
she came up off the ground just enough to tip stall the left wing and my gear did not hold up under the stress. I have fixed that problem, I hope, with extra formers, a more rigid mount and even lined it with composite material. Hopefully Sunday will go well. I really appreciate all the help that I have gotton from you all.
Let me know what y'all think.
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:18 PM
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Default RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build

hornetcv64,

Let us know how your flight goes this weekend. I'm interested in what you find out. Thanks for the heads-up on the gear,

Bob
Old 12-08-2007, 06:04 AM
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Hornet, nice lookin' job! Where are the gear doors? The great plane just don't look right with out them. Just a friendly nudge..ha ha
Old 12-08-2007, 09:25 AM
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Gear doors will be on later. LOL Just can't wait to see her up in the sky. Will definatly let you all know how it goes tomorrow.
Joe


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