Hi Ryan,
Thanks. I did use the H9 33% for the idea. I don't know where you can check out Rossi, but www.morrishobbies.com sells the .45s for $139.95 ( I bought mine 7 years ago for 190!)

For those of you that are interested, here is some Monokote work, along with some tips. I know there are some folks out there that know it all. This is for the people who welcome help. I am enjoying sharing my building, maybe I will continue this as the plane completes.


For your Monokote job, you could just do what most ARF planes come with, and that is 2 pieces of covering that overlaps in the center, but that leaves a visible seam that I don't like. Since I am custom building this airplane to my liking and more strict pickiness, I want a seamless job on the top of the turtle deck and fuse. To do this, first decide where you want the top color to start, and make a paper pattern.

With the paper pattern taped in a few spots, draw a few reference marks for where you want the color seperation, and curve the paper the best you can to the other side and do the same. Add more paper if you need to, the remove, cut out, and recheck. If it looks right, then transfer the pattern UPSIDEDOWN to the BACK or inside of the Monokote (the backing) and trace it with a permanent marker.

Transfer the Monokote ( or whatever your using ) to the airplane, and put a few tabs of tape on to keep it in place. Measure the other side and adjust if you need. Make it as smooth as possible. Tack a few spots near the tape, then iron the seams ONLY, and maybe up about an inch. Do both sides.

With a heat gun, going a little bit from one side then the next, slowly shrink the sides first ending up in the center last. It will need a lot of heat, be careful to not burn a hole, or yourself. Make sure that you have the sides well ironed down, and try not to reheat the sides, that would cause them to shift. When done, it will look smoother than most guys stuff out there, because you did it yourself, and listened to some advice. Know it alls need not apply.

Have other stuff to do to, but will keep you posted.

Whoa, I couldn't find this post at first, thought it disapeared. Does anyone know why it doens't come up when I used the same key words as before?
Sorry it has been longer than expected, I've had other things to tend to, but here is the plane in the finishing stages of Monokote, then will be the plastic cowing and wheel pants, I should just spend the 50 bucks and buy the Fibertech ones, but thats 50% of the cost of the plane, so on this guy, I will be cheap and use the kit's plastic stuff, and save the money to finish up my 33% Extra.

still behind on this, but here is his Snap-on cap.

Looks good...

Still behind on this project, but it is closer to getting done, as is, it is ready to fly, but there are some finishing touches to be done, like mount my fill line, N numbers, tail graphics.
Here is the .60 Rossi

This should be enough elevator

Hummm?

I will have to finish this up in a couple of weeks, I have another plane to put together for my buddy, an extra Extra.

I always thought that forums where meant for everyones opinions and such. But when someone wants to voice theres like WreckRman2 and then gets bursted with arrogance I see no need in it.

You know I may still be new to the R/C world and only have 2 complete planes built. Getting ready to finish my Extra 300S as well. But with the arrogance I see in this thread I don't think I would want to learn from you Red7fifty, sure you have alot of good points here but the arrogance and cockiness is not needed with the details. I don't care that you have 20+ years experience in the hobby. I would rather bite the bullet and not finish this plane then to ask you a question for help. I came to this thread hoping to find out alittle bit of help for my progressive state and for the last few replies from you had abit of overconfidence and ALOT of arrogance since WreckRman2 had voiced his opinion .

I think I will stop here as I may already be in trouble. Glad I am not a Mod. as I think I would have locked this thread out. Used to run a board with a VA, so I know the difference between a good, helpful and meaningful post then a post full of well you should get the picture.

To All the moderators I APOLOGIZE in advance but this thread got my blood boiling.

Well gee, point well taken, could have been a little nicer in your feedback, as I have pointed out on post #23, I agreed somewhat to the stuff I didn't want to discuss before, (not sure if you read that of not), anyways, its people like you that I don't offer help to out at the field. Sorry if you thought I was being cocky and arrogant, but now I know how you react too. Anyway...in case you care, the reason I wanted to dismiss the negative opinion about adding too much weight, was I could see it turning into a back and forth thing, which was going to take away too much from my intentions, and I guess I could have been nicer about it myself, but I was more in the mood to teach and share, than to fence with someone I didn't know. As anyone who knows me, if a question is asked, I do my best to answer it, but if someone shoots me any attitude, intentional or not, I ignore that person. Hint Hint.

Yes I did read the post #23 and I was not being arrogant or out of character or even nasty. I call things as I see them. As far as teaching, well people would get alittle more out of teaching if it were done in a nicer way with out all the little digs about the Know it alls. My teachers in school never did that nor did any of my Drill instructors in the military do it. As far as it being negative opinions it is JUST an opinion that others see themselves. I for one like other peoples opinions as I learn what has been done, what can be done and how it can be done, what the advantages of one way is compared to another way. But flaming one person or being ignorant to others opinions is not a good thing to do.

You know like I said in previous reply, you do have good techniques and it is well written but the other stuff could have just been left out. I did learn a few things from your topic concerning the 300, but I also learned other stuff outside of the topic too.

I don't think it would have been a going back and forth thing. People use forums to voice there opinions and some people may get there feelings hurt but as I always say to people, "You gotta take the good with the bad". You also have to consider 2 other aspects of how to see things as well. 1) we have kids that come to this site, and 2) you have new comers coming here as well. Don't think that would give them very good impressions of RCU. Just my Opinion .

Again Mod's I apologize in advance. If I am out of line please tell me so.

See, wasn't that a whole lot more pleasant of an experience? I guess sometimes stubborn people like me breath in too much glue fumes, and rush off to show something, and get a little too hurried, and don't respond well to inputs that seem to lack respect, when it is myself in this case, going the extra distance, without compensation, just to offer something for free. I guess I am used to repect when I am the one doing the favors, I don't think it is too much to ask. Just a little tunnel vision syndrome. You can blame all the adhesives, including the stuff that comes off the covering.

Yes I think it was. See I am a stubborn person as well and believe me when I say this. I do respect you as well as all the thousands of people on here and will NEVER disrespect people here either. I as well as the thousands of people that visit RCU value yours and everyone else's free opinions, information, tips and techniques as well. Thats why we all come here.

BTW I do SINCERELY apologize if you think I came off the wrong way, was not intentional, I just hate seeing stuff like this posted. I guess my mod experience came out of me when I used to run a Virtual Airline and had to be a mod for all the people who came to my forums. I do think I should have PM'd you instead and I apologize for not doing so either.

Anyways dude keep up the great work on the Extra and give an update PLEASE. I want to see how the extra weight effects the plane.

Put in the maiden flight last Thursday, took off with 3D rates on the elevator, try not to do that folks, boy was it pitch sensitive!Had the idle set a bit too low and had the first landing deadstick. With a tid bit of a headwind coming down the runway, she settled in like a slightly heavy trainer......no big deal, actually very smooth. 2nd flight, dodging the rain, unlimited vertical, could hang it on the prop as long as the wind conditions and my skill allowed me to. Did a lomchevck type parachute into a harrier into an elevator! Now that is the way this airplane was supposed to fly like! Something a stock set up with an underpowered engine couldn't do! Very happy with the results, well worth the careful planning and modifications, even worth dealing with some crap from some of the readers, you know who I am talking about. Still haven't got an official weight on this one yet, but I will tell you this, it weights very close to the ARF version with an OS .70 4-stroke, but outperforms it like someone flying the Extra with a .70 4 stroke versus a .46 FX or a . 40 LA. Then again, what do you really expect with 2.5 HP? This airplane was designed for a 1.25 to 1.62 HP engine with small tail feathers, which works great for non-3D type flying, but if you want extreme 3D and an unlimited IMAC type plane, these mods were the ticket.

Glad to see this thread has had a happy ending.

I have just finished my own GP Extra 40. AUW is 2620g, bang on the nose as to what GP say it should be at 5.75 lb.

Power is a Saito 72. Ok so it won't be unlimited vertical, but it will have enough for me. I never intended to have this as a 3D plane, just a good smooth aerobatic flyer. I have a GP Cap 232 waiting to be built for 3D.

Thanks,
Just to let you know, the GP Cap is about 1/2 the work as the Extra, and is lighter. Put the Saito in that, and it will really preform, and with 40-45 degrees elevator, it will 3D very nicely, although the Extra is more smooth in my opinion.

How about post a picture of yours to share?

A few finishing details done.

If you got this far, thanks for getting past all the ulgy negative stuff from before. In my opinion, it was still worth it.

Must say we are a arrogant one aren't we....
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Are you refering to me or yourself?