Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
05-25-2009 | 08:46 AM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
Mike,
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">I was messing around with a R617 with gold dot this morning, I went over the dot with my finger and the dot came off, so the dots will not be there for to long.
</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">Doug.</div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">I was messing around with a R617 with gold dot this morning, I went over the dot with my finger and the dot came off, so the dots will not be there for to long.
</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">Doug.</div>
05-25-2009 | 02:55 PM
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Mike
If you had beeninvolved with all the discussion that has taken place on various forums over the past year about the dot and heat issue you would understand
the fact isthat Hobbico alwayshas claimed not to knowanything about the heat issue or the dots yet many people have been able to figure out what is causing
the heatproblem,and also figure out what the differences was between the dot and non dot receivers.
You will never get me to belleve that Hobbico who is the USA repair center could not have ran the same test as many others have to confirm or deny
those test finding,In fact in order to repair the receivers they would have to know the specs and parts difference between the two.
ORIGINAL: BaldEagel
Ira d</p>
Forgive me Ira, but I don't see how that confirms that its a heat related issue, it only confirms that Hobbico don't know why themanufacturer puts a dot on the Rx, IMO the fact that no one knows or will confirm is because no one outside the manufacturing process has any idea why dots are on some and not on others, now the fact that a newly introduced Rx (HS) has a gold dot on it just indicates to me that its a QC procedure, as looking inside the case its a different make up to the previous FS.
There have been dot discussions in the past about Futaba Rx's prior to 2.4Ghz, so it may be that different colour dots mean different production lines or different shift's in the manufacturers factory, I know this is a procedure used by a company I can't name but they make micro electronic parts and plug in boards for the jump jet.</p>
Mike</p>
Ira d</p>
Forgive me Ira, but I don't see how that confirms that its a heat related issue, it only confirms that Hobbico don't know why themanufacturer puts a dot on the Rx, IMO the fact that no one knows or will confirm is because no one outside the manufacturing process has any idea why dots are on some and not on others, now the fact that a newly introduced Rx (HS) has a gold dot on it just indicates to me that its a QC procedure, as looking inside the case its a different make up to the previous FS.
There have been dot discussions in the past about Futaba Rx's prior to 2.4Ghz, so it may be that different colour dots mean different production lines or different shift's in the manufacturers factory, I know this is a procedure used by a company I can't name but they make micro electronic parts and plug in boards for the jump jet.</p>
Mike</p>
Mike
If you had beeninvolved with all the discussion that has taken place on various forums over the past year about the dot and heat issue you would understand
the fact isthat Hobbico alwayshas claimed not to knowanything about the heat issue or the dots yet many people have been able to figure out what is causing
the heatproblem,and also figure out what the differences was between the dot and non dot receivers.
You will never get me to belleve that Hobbico who is the USA repair center could not have ran the same test as many others have to confirm or deny
those test finding,In fact in order to repair the receivers they would have to know the specs and parts difference between the two.
05-25-2009 | 06:46 PM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
ORIGINAL: ira d
<div style="text-align: left">Mike</div><div style="text-align: center"></div><div style="text-align: left">If you had beeninvolved with all the discussion that has taken place on various forums over the past year about the dot and heat issue you would understand
the fact isthat Hobbico alwayshas claimed not to knowanything about the heat issue or the dots yet many people have been able to figure out what is causing
the heatproblem,and also figure out what the differences was between the dot and non dot receivers.
You will never get me to belleve that Hobbico who is the USA repair center could not have ran the same test as many others have to confirm or deny
those test finding,In fact in order to repair the receivers they would have to know the specs and parts difference between the two.
<div style="text-align: left">Mike</div><div style="text-align: center"></div><div style="text-align: left">If you had beeninvolved with all the discussion that has taken place on various forums over the past year about the dot and heat issue you would understand
the fact isthat Hobbico alwayshas claimed not to knowanything about the heat issue or the dots yet many people have been able to figure out what is causing
the heatproblem,and also figure out what the differences was between the dot and non dot receivers.
You will never get me to belleve that Hobbico who is the USA repair center could not have ran the same test as many others have to confirm or deny
those test finding,In fact in order to repair the receivers they would have to know the specs and parts difference between the two.
I have been following all of the previous post re the dot issue for the past four years, its been going on longer than you think, I have just not taken them as read, I think as happens often with these things people take on the favorite resoning of the week (favorite at the moment is heat) and run with it, the overheat issues where in fact few and far between and happened in extream conditions, conditions that would not occur in the UK and the majority of Europe, there is another world out there.
Mike
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05-25-2009 | 10:10 PM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
The first receivers with dots hit the USmarket around Sept or Oct of 08 the 608FS receivercame out Mar of 08 the 6014FS came out 6-8 months beforethat,
cant see how anyone could be following the heat and dot issue for four years in fact I dont think the 607FS has been out much over two years.
cant see how anyone could be following the heat and dot issue for four years in fact I dont think the 607FS has been out much over two years.
05-26-2009 | 01:09 AM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
The dot issue has been going on before the advent of 2.4Ghz, I have 147IP's with silver dots on them and before that I think it was the DP series of 1024 PCM that had various colour dots appering on them now and again.</p>
Mike</p>
05-26-2009 | 08:10 AM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
ORIGINAL: hairy46
Hey has there been any problems that you all know of with the R617FS?
Hey has there been any problems that you all know of with the R617FS?
to fail at 140 degrees or so.
05-26-2009 | 02:25 PM
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ORIGINAL: BaldEagel
The dot issue has been going on before the advent of 2.4Ghz, I have 147IP's with silver dots on them and before that I think it was the DP series of 1024 PCM that had various colour dots appering on them now and again.</p>
Mike</p>
The dot issue has been going on before the advent of 2.4Ghz, I have 147IP's with silver dots on them and before that I think it was the DP series of 1024 PCM that had various colour dots appering on them now and again.</p>
Mike</p>
all along I cant see how Hobbico being the repair center could not know
about the dots and what they mean.
05-26-2009 | 08:59 PM
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ORIGINAL: Woketman
Well if they won't confirm or admit what they are for, then it most likely confirms that they know there is an issue and that means they are lying to us.
Well if they won't confirm or admit what they are for, then it most likely confirms that they know there is an issue and that means they are lying to us.
05-27-2009 | 04:26 AM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">A quick question on Regions.</div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">I understand that the TX modules are region coded (please confirm)</div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Are the rx’s different for different regions?</div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">I can’t imagine that they are but just want confirmation.</div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Thanks in advance
Paul</div>
Paul</div>
05-27-2009 | 04:48 AM
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Paul</p>
I am not absolutly shure, but I think the regional codings are for the different power ouput requirements in different countries, this reduces or increases the ouput from the Tx when selected, can't think that would make any difference to the Rx, just possibly to the effective range.</p>
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05-27-2009 | 05:30 AM
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Hi Paul.
As per Futaba, the rx's are not region coded, the TX/Modules are.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_75...tm.htm#7598081
Doug.
As per Futaba, the rx's are not region coded, the TX/Modules are.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_75...tm.htm#7598081
Doug.
05-29-2009 | 12:33 PM
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I have been doing some looking around at the 6014FS Rx's and have noticed that they seem to have gone through a change in the top case sticker some have the DG1 and DG2 in different places, also the battery connection seems to have changed place also, anyone else noticed this? I know its now irrelevant with the HS replacing them, but thought it was interesting none the less.</p>
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05-29-2009 | 05:55 PM
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ORIGINAL: GrayUK
The later ones are a different issue PCB.
The later ones are a different issue PCB.
Mike
06-10-2009 | 10:31 PM
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RE: Futaba FASST 6
Bob,
You have written about using Futaba FASST radios in flight-testing the unmanned drones your company manufactures. Please give us a summary of your experience in this regard. I know it's scattered throughout this Forum and I hope you will do a summary so I don't have to search thru 82 pages. I want this info for the group I fly with who are new to 2.4 radios. I've been flying FASST for 2 years and the performance has been perfect.
Zero 'glitches'...zero malfunctions. These are amazing radios.
Regards
JC
You have written about using Futaba FASST radios in flight-testing the unmanned drones your company manufactures. Please give us a summary of your experience in this regard. I know it's scattered throughout this Forum and I hope you will do a summary so I don't have to search thru 82 pages. I want this info for the group I fly with who are new to 2.4 radios. I've been flying FASST for 2 years and the performance has been perfect.
Zero 'glitches'...zero malfunctions. These are amazing radios.
Regards
JC
06-10-2009 | 11:11 PM
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JC, I am new to the fasst but I have not had a bit of trouble, andI feel like I do not have to worry about a radio being turned on, that happened to me and that is why I changed! No more checking to see if my pin is being used, I am liking this allot! Bob
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want to know how not to crash? just land higher!
06-15-2009 | 02:31 AM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica, Verdana, sans-serif; ">Hi Guys, I just found this alarming Pic on fly eagle jets site-</span><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica">
http://www.flyeaglejet.com/</p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"></p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica">With currently running three of these-(without the white dot??) did I miss something?</p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"></p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica">Cheers
Ants</p>
http://www.flyeaglejet.com/</p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"></p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica">With currently running three of these-(without the white dot??) did I miss something?</p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"></p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica">Cheers
Ants</p>
06-15-2009 | 05:39 AM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
If you send the receivers to Futaba, they will not be upgraded. it will be a problem if the rx get above 60C.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8349263/tm.htm
Ihave 3 of them here in South Florida for more than a year, no problems so far.
Doug.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8349263/tm.htm
Ihave 3 of them here in South Florida for more than a year, no problems so far.
Doug.
06-15-2009 | 05:54 AM
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ORIGINAL: Ayrtonsenna
<span style="font-family: Helvetica,Verdana,sans-serif;" class="Apple-style-span">Hi Guys, I just found this alarming Pic on fly eagle jets site-</span><p style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
http://www.flyeaglejet.com/</p><p style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; min-height: 14px;"></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">With currently running three of these-(without the white dot??) did I miss something?</p><p style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; min-height: 14px;"></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">Cheers
Ants</p>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica,Verdana,sans-serif;" class="Apple-style-span">Hi Guys, I just found this alarming Pic on fly eagle jets site-</span><p style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
http://www.flyeaglejet.com/</p><p style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; min-height: 14px;"></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">With currently running three of these-(without the white dot??) did I miss something?</p><p style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; min-height: 14px;"></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">Cheers
Ants</p>
As you can see by the photos, there would be no way to upgrade a non dotted receiver other than replacing the main P.C. board assembly.
I did run someoutput testing on the "Dotted version" and the levels look good for ruinning the Hi-Tec digital servos
See post #24
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_87...tm.htm#8750838
I did find an interesting accessory on the Orbit Web site made for the non dotted R6014FS receivers, It is a plug in line amplifier made to boost the servo output to "Normal" Levels.
I e-mailed them to ask if these were available in the US...I did not receive any response. If anyone knows where these can be purchased in the US please let me know.
http://s42221013.einsundeinsshop.de/...dex.shopscript
p.s. click on the "proiducts" and you will find the link to the amplifier under the RC Electronics tab
