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Old 05-14-2008 | 04:57 PM
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Default Lado Electric rotating Retracts for H9 P40

Hey all,

Lado-Tech has the .60 size the rotating retracts available for H9 P40, Hellcat, Corsair.
They are taking pre-orders now, just ordered mine last night.


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I ordered a set last week, they will be nice on my corsair.
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Here's a link to the product page:
[link=https://smartweb.ipower.com/lado/product1.asp?value=300&productID=19]60-2 Rotating Retract for H9 Corsair, Hellcat, P-40[/link]

Do you know the diameter of those wire struts? I wonder if it can be replaced with Robostruts.

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Here's a link to the product page:
[link=https://smartweb.ipower.com/lado/product1.asp?value=300&productID=19]60-2 Rotating Retract for H9 Corsair, Hellcat, P-40[/link]

Do you know the diameter of those wire struts? I wonder if it can be replaced with Robostruts.

Juice
They are the stock struts that come with the corsair. They could easily be modified to accept Robostruts.
What you see in the picture here is what you get.
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Old 05-14-2008 | 08:42 PM
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sounds like its screaming and that leg does not even have a strut on it and the Hanger 9 wheels are lighter then the scale robart wheels ??
Has anyone had a track record with these in the P51 style ??? seems like just based on sound they will be underpowered ?
Also if all the eletronics are in the base , will a tuff landing ruin the circuit board , its like having your receiver sitting in a high stress area .
So am I the devils adocate or what ????sorry but its in my nature to ask before I jump
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be careful with those they had interference issues when they first came out with these several years ago . whats wrong with air systems. I agree a hard landing jarring electronics hmmm
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If Top Flight had out their new P-51 out when they were supposed to I could tell you how well they work.
But since we are still waiting for them to finish engineering the retracts that I am not going to use anyway I guess we will all have to wait.

Whats wrong with air retracts? Nothing that I know of but what can be more convenient than electric retracts. I am lazy
Underpowered? The retract servos in my H9 150 P-47 make a similar sound and I know they aren't under powered.
Will a tuff landing ruin the circuit board? A possiblity, but anyone with mechanical retracts has to worry about the same thing. Ever dropped your cell phone on the ground?

Questions are good, nothing wrong with that. Any New technology will get serious scrutiny from the RC community as well it should.
We put a lot of money in our babies and we should expect that all this gear to work well.

I don't mind being the guinea pig on this one. I have talked to Doug and he is a nice guy. I think these guys are on to something here.
If these work well I will make all future retracts electric. Even the big birds. No more airlines to run, no more pumping up air tanks.
I'll give a report on them but it won't be till the end of the month since they won't shipping till then.
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Well, now I know why Doug hasen't made my retracts yet! Just kidding Doug! I ordered a set of 60 size, 90 degree retracts (his stock ones are 85 degree)from LADO a few weeks ago for my Sea Fury. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7222111/tm.htm
When I was e-mailing Doug a few weeks ago I asked him about rotating retracts because my son wants a H-9 Corsair for his next plane. He told me to keep an eye out for them soon. Guess he wasn't kidding. To you guys (aka "guinea pigs") that have ordered them, please let us know how they work out. I would order a set, but my son just isn't ready for a Corsair!
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The thought process seems good and yes the easy factor is there , I wish you the best in your tesr and certainly hope they work for your sake and all of ours .After all we would not be here if it were not for the wright brothers willingness to test !!!!!

My reservations are also on the fact that the gears (according to there film) dont seem to stop screaming when the leg appears locked , remember this is all on there film . I am certain there will work fine and we will all have yet another good choice in retracts but only time will tell
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Well, I am also willing to try them and ordered 2 sets today. I have a Corsair that is ready for them so as soon as they arrive and I get them in, I'll also be happy to share. BTW, if you've ever had servo operated retracts before, you know they work the servo pretty hard too and the sound isn't very pleasant. Also note on the site that the speed on these is pretty slow so it looks scale!

There is a predicted speed of 9 seconds @ 4.8v and 7 seconds @6.0v. I am guessing that the noise you are hearing after the leg reaches the full down position is the locking mechanism going into position. If you just want your gear to flop up and down, then air is surely the thing to go for. Unless you go and buy a very good proportional air valve from another manufacturer, a Robart valve won't allow speeds like this.

If you're worried about rough landings, that's what Robostruts are for! Well that and some good old fashioned landing practice probably woudn't hurt
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I've talked with Doug at Lado numerous times over the last 8 - 10 months, and I'm so confident in his product that I pre-ordered them for my new H9 Corsair. Before I gave up on the TF .60 P-51 ARF, I intended to buy some for that.

I also ordered the whole shooting match for my H9 1.50 P-47. I'll retro-fit them to some new Robarts, the ones that robart now make for this particular model.


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Will these electric retracts come in either 90 or 100 degree versions? I would like to see them in the 100 degree versions as that would seem to help my H9 P-40 from nosing over. Also, what about the weight difference, anyone got an accurate weight difference as compared to the stock H9 gear?
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hi guys
i only saw these the other day as a new product and there is already a link. i have ordered a coupe of sets of these after making contact with doug the other day.i was very impressed with the time he took to get back to me with answers to my questions on this product (about an hr) and that is allowing for international time difference when he should have been in bed. if there product is as good as there service these retracks will be great.
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I am not worried about rough landings , as stated I am worried about a circuit board on the wing . Again , I think I have said enought about the concerns and dont wont to dampen what may be a very cool addition to our retract choices . My retract evolution went from Robart to Century to Sierra , as you can imagine , it will take more then "less money " to move me off of sierra .
After robart failures , CJs gear bending ect , it was nice to fly my P40 with Sierra gear and not have to worry about anything . I just picked up the Fw190 gear and an amazing 2.4 oz scale 1/6 FW190 retract tail wheel assembly , I have to Darrell is first class in his work .
Good look with these retracts and I hope your reports are positive
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Any updates, especially in terms of durability?

I am seriously thinking of getting a set of the rotators for my Hangar 9 Hellcat and would likely as robostruts to them as well.

Thanks!

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I'm not sure I understand the concern about having a circuit board in the wing. There are already circuit boards in flap servos, aileron servos and normal retract servos. It'll be interesting to see how well the LADO systems work. I'm very interested in areliable electric gear because air systems cause too much problems when it gets cold here. I'm considering trying their actuators in my Robart 615 equipped P-40.
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Will these electric retracts come in either 90 or 100 degree versions? I would like to see them in the 100 degree versions as that would seem to help my H9 P-40 from nosing over. Also, what about the weight difference, anyone got an accurate weight difference as compared to the stock H9 gear?
I also would be really interested in these retracts if they came in 100 degree and would accept 3/8 oleo struts.
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I ordered mine back on the 18 May when I saw this thread. Ordered through the link above.

It looks like people have gotten them since then and I think somewhere on their website it says "ships in 2-3 days".

Anybody gotten them recently?
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I ordered mine back on the 18 May when I saw this thread. Ordered through the link above.

It looks like people have gotten them since then and I think somewhere on their website it says "ships in 2-3 days".

Anybody gotten them recently?

Not yet. I ordered mine for the H9 Corsair (same set, I believe, as for the H9 F6F) plus a set for my H9 1.50 P-47.

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Concern over cicuit boards on the wing flaps and aierlons ect are under load , but trama like a landing gear oloe takes , and like rails take from a hard landing . You said yourself that the 615 failed on you during some of the landings I know you are one of the most competitant modelers on the net , that is why I am expressing concern over circuit board controls in high stress areas .
Even receivers are usually buffered from vibration ect , the lados will not be able to be buffered , again , I like the gear and hope they work and last but just expressing my concern
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I ordered a set also. On Wed May 28, I e-mailed tem to ask if things are on schedule. Here's his reply:

Yes we are still on for the end of the month. We are going to start shipping late this week and the orders will be processed as they where placed. We are excited to get these out, I can't wait to hear what folks think.
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I ordered a set on 28 Apr. At the time Doug said they would go out "Later this week".

Two weeks later (after several unanswered e-mails) I called again and he said everyone had had the flue and that had set him back a lot.

He apologized and said he was going to up-grade me to the new version and they "Should go out later this week."

Called again 2 weeks later and he said they were finally ready to go and would ship out no later than this last Tuesday or Wednesday, Jun 3 or 4, at the very latest.

Havent received them yet and havent called back again.

Maybe next week.....

He does seem like a really nice, sincere guy but Im getting a little annoyed.
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Default RE: Lado Electric rotating Retracts for H9 P40

Just ordered a set for my electric powered H-9 Corsair. I've put up with the stock retracts long enough (a little over 3 years now). Kept thinking I should replace them, but really didn't like any of the other options, and any of the others would have required more work.

From what I see: what is not to like? Scale retraction, I'll be able to use my 5/32" diameter titanium struts, with RoboStruts attached below the spring loop. Without the ball links: I should be able to mount operational front gear doors.

Someone asked about weight:
Lado lists these units as weighing 3.4 oz each. I assume that is without struts, but WITH controller.
H-9 retract unit only weighs 2.4 oz each without strut, so they are 1 oz lighter each.

BUT, you can remove the retract servo (1.2 oz?), the bellcranks and linkage, and then they should be pretty close to even in weight.
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I hope these hold up well.


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