Brillelli Update
08-15-2008 | 08:03 AM
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Brillelli Update
Hey guys,
Well this is really not news that I wanted to share.. and honestly I am shocked. However I have tried my best to keep people as up to date as possible.
I have been trying to get ahold of SCott for 3-4 weeks and normally for the most part I was always able to get him within a couple of days via the phone or email. With everything going on my email and pm boxes have been blowing up and honestly I had run out of answers.
About 1.5 months ago Scott's main supplier was cut off from credit from the wholesalers and was no longer going to be able to get as good of prices until things go straightened out. This meant overnight the profit on his biggest selling engines was going to be cut by $70. Believe me when I tell you that was nearly a 50% hit. So I knew if he didn't find another source quick he may continue to service and repair, but it wasn't likely he would do as much selling because it wasn't worth the time and money involved.
That being said Scott sent this guy $2500 about a month ago to get caught up on the parts he needed... 2 weeks went by and no parts, long story short that guy went out of business and took Scott's money with him.
Scott has been trying to figure out a way to deal with everything but that was the final brick wall.. he has spent all of his money trying to save the business and health bills and now every other household bill is now months behind... they are so far behind he is on the edge of loosing his house.
This is all I know at this point.. I got an email from him and I haven't talked to him on the phone. This is a crazy week for me at work and nights are busy for me because I am moving in 2 weeks. I am going to see if I can find out what he is going to do with the repairs. I would think he would atleast just try and send them back.
Long story short there are going to be a few jumping up and down with I told you so's.. but considering everyone needs to read this info I suggest everyone try and keep the thread from being closed.
The official word is Brillelli is dead.
* If you want to pm about the donation - please do. As far as updates I am telling everything as I get it.
Well this is really not news that I wanted to share.. and honestly I am shocked. However I have tried my best to keep people as up to date as possible.
I have been trying to get ahold of SCott for 3-4 weeks and normally for the most part I was always able to get him within a couple of days via the phone or email. With everything going on my email and pm boxes have been blowing up and honestly I had run out of answers.
About 1.5 months ago Scott's main supplier was cut off from credit from the wholesalers and was no longer going to be able to get as good of prices until things go straightened out. This meant overnight the profit on his biggest selling engines was going to be cut by $70. Believe me when I tell you that was nearly a 50% hit. So I knew if he didn't find another source quick he may continue to service and repair, but it wasn't likely he would do as much selling because it wasn't worth the time and money involved.
That being said Scott sent this guy $2500 about a month ago to get caught up on the parts he needed... 2 weeks went by and no parts, long story short that guy went out of business and took Scott's money with him.
Scott has been trying to figure out a way to deal with everything but that was the final brick wall.. he has spent all of his money trying to save the business and health bills and now every other household bill is now months behind... they are so far behind he is on the edge of loosing his house.
This is all I know at this point.. I got an email from him and I haven't talked to him on the phone. This is a crazy week for me at work and nights are busy for me because I am moving in 2 weeks. I am going to see if I can find out what he is going to do with the repairs. I would think he would atleast just try and send them back.
Long story short there are going to be a few jumping up and down with I told you so's.. but considering everyone needs to read this info I suggest everyone try and keep the thread from being closed.
The official word is Brillelli is dead.
* If you want to pm about the donation - please do. As far as updates I am telling everything as I get it.
08-15-2008 | 08:20 AM
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Well, I guess I am out two engines and that's a financial loss; but I can deal with that. More importantly, I am out a friend. I hope that Scott can recover.
Scott - if you are listening....sell mine for scrap if you want. You need the money more than I.
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Scott - if you are listening....sell mine for scrap if you want. You need the money more than I.
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08-15-2008 | 10:22 AM
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Jake,
I am so sorry to hear the bad news, but I thank you for putting out the essential facts. My dealings with Scott a couple years ago showed me what a stand up guy he is. I sure wish him well in recovering from this. He deserves better.
I am so sorry to hear the bad news, but I thank you for putting out the essential facts. My dealings with Scott a couple years ago showed me what a stand up guy he is. I sure wish him well in recovering from this. He deserves better.
08-15-2008 | 10:56 AM
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Yep I wish him well and I hope he gets back on his feet soon. I love his 60 engine and his 1 cell Lipo battery system for the ignition. It was the only dealing I had with him and he treated me very well. It did take me a while to get the engine and battery but I did get it and they work well. It was near the beginning of the year, Feb/March.
08-15-2008 | 11:12 AM
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The guy is sick and close to loosing his home? 
Airplanes and engines aside........it's just a hobby
I will be the first guy to step up and offer a donation to try and help the guy out. Family, home and health is WAY more important than these silly, overpriced toys that we all play with.
I don't know if this is within the rules of RCU or not, but I'd like to start a fund to try and help the guy out. He's been a good modeler, good business man and a good contributor to these forums for years. I know some guys feel taken because they paid for parts or repairs and haven't gotten anything back. Those guys can still be mad if they want too. I guess they have a right to be upset at the $$ lost. But here is a guy who really could use some help right now. Who better to come to his aid than his peers?
Just throwing that out there. I've been on hard times before and I had some TREMENDOUS support from friends locally and here on RCU. Saved me from becoming homeless when I had a 4yr old son in ICU for a week with pneumonia and no money or job to pay for it.
Rather than make stabs at the guy.......couldn't we try and help him out instead? I can spare a few bucks. If 50% of the guys who ever dealt with Scott would send him just $20 it would certainly help. I can blow through $20 on this hobby in a single breath. It's nothing to most of us, but it may just help Scott out from total disaster. And even if it doesn't save him, it will at least buy him some time. Maybe a trip to the grocery store and some gas for his truck..............
Airplanes and engines aside........it's just a hobby
I will be the first guy to step up and offer a donation to try and help the guy out. Family, home and health is WAY more important than these silly, overpriced toys that we all play with.
I don't know if this is within the rules of RCU or not, but I'd like to start a fund to try and help the guy out. He's been a good modeler, good business man and a good contributor to these forums for years. I know some guys feel taken because they paid for parts or repairs and haven't gotten anything back. Those guys can still be mad if they want too. I guess they have a right to be upset at the $$ lost. But here is a guy who really could use some help right now. Who better to come to his aid than his peers?
Just throwing that out there. I've been on hard times before and I had some TREMENDOUS support from friends locally and here on RCU. Saved me from becoming homeless when I had a 4yr old son in ICU for a week with pneumonia and no money or job to pay for it.
Rather than make stabs at the guy.......couldn't we try and help him out instead? I can spare a few bucks. If 50% of the guys who ever dealt with Scott would send him just $20 it would certainly help. I can blow through $20 on this hobby in a single breath. It's nothing to most of us, but it may just help Scott out from total disaster. And even if it doesn't save him, it will at least buy him some time. Maybe a trip to the grocery store and some gas for his truck..............
08-15-2008 | 11:34 AM
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Never bought anything from Scott but i want to offer my help cause i was in a same situation 2 years ago with my brother's health and my wife's house so i feel the guy
if we are gonna start a donation please i want to know the details about it
wish you everything is gonna be allright and good recovery
Paul
if we are gonna start a donation please i want to know the details about it
wish you everything is gonna be allright and good recovery
Paul
08-15-2008 | 12:53 PM
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I have never dealt with Scott, but I have been following this and I do feel for the situation he is in. You can count me in as well when they get this sorted out on how it will be handled. We are not just in this hobby for the joy of flying, but for the people we meet all over the world sharing this hobby. This means more to me than giving up a few dollars to help a fellow out.
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08-15-2008 | 02:04 PM
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I tried to send something to his paypal account and it is not working most likely do to outstanding claims. He sent me a couple carbs for free this summer and I figured I could atleast send him a chunk of money to cover those and whatnot.
I am for helping out here.
I am for helping out here.
08-15-2008 | 02:33 PM
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/vote. he is a treasure to our hobby and sport, would be nice to see his creations continue for a long time.
i sure hope all the builders of engines have a network and know about this distributer so others dont get bitten and supply still comes to the builders from other sources.
+100 cool points for trying to work it out till the end.
i sure hope all the builders of engines have a network and know about this distributer so others dont get bitten and supply still comes to the builders from other sources.
+100 cool points for trying to work it out till the end.
08-15-2008 | 02:43 PM
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Hey guys,
Well this is really not news that I wanted to share.. and honestly I am shocked. However I have tried my best to keep people as up to date as possible.
I have been trying to get ahold of SCott for 3-4 weeks and normally for the most part I was always able to get him within a couple of days via the phone or email. With everything going on my email and pm boxes have been blowing up and honestly I had run out of answers.
About 1.5 months ago Scott's main supplier was cut off from credit from the wholesalers and was no longer going to be able to get as good of prices until things go straightened out. This meant overnight the profit on his biggest selling engines was going to be cut by $70. Believe me when I tell you that was nearly a 50% hit. So I knew if he didn't find another source quick he may continue to service and repair, but it wasn't likely he would do as much selling because it wasn't worth the time and money involved.
That being said Scott sent this guy $2500 about a month ago to get caught up on the parts he needed... 2 weeks went by and no parts, long story short that guy went out of business and took Scott's money with him.
Scott has been trying to figure out a way to deal with everything but that was the final brick wall.. he has spent all of his money trying to save the business and health bills and now every other household bill is now months behind... they are so far behind he is on the edge of loosing his house.
This is all I know at this point.. I got an email from him and I haven't talked to him on the phone. This is a crazy week for me at work and nights are busy for me because I am moving in 2 weeks. I am going to see if I can find out what he is going to do with the repairs. I would think he would atleast just try and send them back.
Long story short there are going to be a few jumping up and down with I told you so's.. but considering everyone needs to read this info I suggest everyone try and keep the thread from being closed.
The official word is Brillelli is dead.
* Please don't pm me looking for more details.. I have just spilled my guts and I don't know anything more.. I have been in the dark myself for longer than I realized.
Hey guys,
Well this is really not news that I wanted to share.. and honestly I am shocked. However I have tried my best to keep people as up to date as possible.
I have been trying to get ahold of SCott for 3-4 weeks and normally for the most part I was always able to get him within a couple of days via the phone or email. With everything going on my email and pm boxes have been blowing up and honestly I had run out of answers.
About 1.5 months ago Scott's main supplier was cut off from credit from the wholesalers and was no longer going to be able to get as good of prices until things go straightened out. This meant overnight the profit on his biggest selling engines was going to be cut by $70. Believe me when I tell you that was nearly a 50% hit. So I knew if he didn't find another source quick he may continue to service and repair, but it wasn't likely he would do as much selling because it wasn't worth the time and money involved.
That being said Scott sent this guy $2500 about a month ago to get caught up on the parts he needed... 2 weeks went by and no parts, long story short that guy went out of business and took Scott's money with him.
Scott has been trying to figure out a way to deal with everything but that was the final brick wall.. he has spent all of his money trying to save the business and health bills and now every other household bill is now months behind... they are so far behind he is on the edge of loosing his house.
This is all I know at this point.. I got an email from him and I haven't talked to him on the phone. This is a crazy week for me at work and nights are busy for me because I am moving in 2 weeks. I am going to see if I can find out what he is going to do with the repairs. I would think he would atleast just try and send them back.
Long story short there are going to be a few jumping up and down with I told you so's.. but considering everyone needs to read this info I suggest everyone try and keep the thread from being closed.
The official word is Brillelli is dead.
* Please don't pm me looking for more details.. I have just spilled my guts and I don't know anything more.. I have been in the dark myself for longer than I realized.
08-15-2008 | 03:07 PM
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Funny Chas.. you pm'd me a much different tone. It's time you stop stirring up things period.
$20-$30k? What the heck are you talking about, creating / spreading rumors is not going to help at all.
I have a more detailed update for those of you who want the truth.
Currently Scott has 2 60s, 3 46s, and 2 26s that are all most finished for customers who paid. That is the last of his parts and he is trying to get them done as quick as he can. Right now he is working 12 hours a day trying to stay alive.
As far as the repairs that he has, he has every intension of repairing them and getting them back... this will take time because of his work schedule. If a 46 or 60 needs a jug it's going to be tough.. but he does have cases left over.
Customers who are owed money WILL be paid.. this will also take time, but he has no intension of taking anyone for any money. A direct quote " Visa can wait and screw up my credit even more - my word can not and it will get first priority". I know the amount owed and it could really be a lot worse.
As for not answering the phone.. it had been turned off. It would ring but when he asnwered it or tried to check voicemail it would go right to verizon. This is why he wasn't answering calls. This makes a lot of sense to me because I could always get him but the last 2 weeks or it was calling non stop with nothing. His internet / tv was off as well.
I know Scott a lot better than many do.. I have literally 100s of hours on the phone with him over the last 3 or 4 yrs. I can hear in his voice how much this bothers him and how he wants to make it right.
As I have updates I will share them.
$20-$30k? What the heck are you talking about, creating / spreading rumors is not going to help at all.
I have a more detailed update for those of you who want the truth.
Currently Scott has 2 60s, 3 46s, and 2 26s that are all most finished for customers who paid. That is the last of his parts and he is trying to get them done as quick as he can. Right now he is working 12 hours a day trying to stay alive.
As far as the repairs that he has, he has every intension of repairing them and getting them back... this will take time because of his work schedule. If a 46 or 60 needs a jug it's going to be tough.. but he does have cases left over.
Customers who are owed money WILL be paid.. this will also take time, but he has no intension of taking anyone for any money. A direct quote " Visa can wait and screw up my credit even more - my word can not and it will get first priority". I know the amount owed and it could really be a lot worse.
As for not answering the phone.. it had been turned off. It would ring but when he asnwered it or tried to check voicemail it would go right to verizon. This is why he wasn't answering calls. This makes a lot of sense to me because I could always get him but the last 2 weeks or it was calling non stop with nothing. His internet / tv was off as well.
I know Scott a lot better than many do.. I have literally 100s of hours on the phone with him over the last 3 or 4 yrs. I can hear in his voice how much this bothers him and how he wants to make it right.
As I have updates I will share them.
08-15-2008 | 03:20 PM
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Now wait a minute Jake.
Is he done or not? You say he's officially dead and then you say he's working hard to stay alive. Which is it?
C'mon Jake quit accusing me of stirring things up okay? I just want my money back and the common decency of not being ignored. Once I recover my funds I'll not participate in any Brillelli thread and hopefully not "stir things up" as you put it.
I have some information that I should not share until my legal acitivities are completed. After that I'll gladly reveal the things I've learned about Scott E. What I can tell you is that things just don't add up here. The truth is yet to come out, and I believe that the truth is least that eveyone is owed here. Jake if you want you can call me and we can discuss some things in private, but only if you want to.
Again I pose the serious question to all of the forum participants: "What should those of us who've paid $350-$600 dollars do at this point?"
I wish Scott E. all the best and will cetainly be praying for him, but he needs to speak for himself on this one. We all deserve the truthfull explanation of what has happened and what is going to happen.
Is he done or not? You say he's officially dead and then you say he's working hard to stay alive. Which is it?
C'mon Jake quit accusing me of stirring things up okay? I just want my money back and the common decency of not being ignored. Once I recover my funds I'll not participate in any Brillelli thread and hopefully not "stir things up" as you put it.
I have some information that I should not share until my legal acitivities are completed. After that I'll gladly reveal the things I've learned about Scott E. What I can tell you is that things just don't add up here. The truth is yet to come out, and I believe that the truth is least that eveyone is owed here. Jake if you want you can call me and we can discuss some things in private, but only if you want to.
Again I pose the serious question to all of the forum participants: "What should those of us who've paid $350-$600 dollars do at this point?"
I wish Scott E. all the best and will cetainly be praying for him, but he needs to speak for himself on this one. We all deserve the truthfull explanation of what has happened and what is going to happen.
08-15-2008 | 03:24 PM
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... Also what does everyone think those of us who've paid him $350-$600 should do? Man this is real problem here. There's got to be more to the story here.
... Also what does everyone think those of us who've paid him $350-$600 should do? Man this is real problem here. There's got to be more to the story here.
all i can do is sit and hope scott finds another distributer, returns and continues again and eventually an engine comes. i sure the heck dont want to pay 800 bucks for that european engine that pumps out less power then a brillelli, or a run of the mill over weigthed a motor, or that reputable motor for bent shafts on arrival etc etc
as far as what i will do if my opinion matters, nothing i can do. cost of doing business with a small "boutique" shop. aint his fault, i cant blame him for using my purchase money in acquiring more parts that were never delivered to the builder. and i sure the heck aint going to deny money for medical and food for families.
as far as the other suggestion earlier, for hearing him on the phone and see in his email the passion for engine building.... ill buy a dinner or help a internet bill for that. to see that passion return, well, ill skip multiple dinners and buy 2 dinners or 2 internet bills for that. just say when and where ill help with what little i can
08-15-2008 | 03:27 PM
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#1 You don't have any legal activities - you can't sue him anyhow. You could sue the company if you wanted but you would have to go to that state to do it. In one breath you are claiming legal activities and in the next you are asking what "those of us" should do that are owed money.
This thread is not going to turn into a witch hunt like the other. It's purpose is to keep people updated period.
When I said staying alive I mean him and his family. The business is dead plain and simple, he can't get parts and couldn't make enough to survive with the prices he had. He will be returning money as he can.. I clearly spelt that out in the email above.
This thread is not going to turn into a witch hunt like the other. It's purpose is to keep people updated period.
When I said staying alive I mean him and his family. The business is dead plain and simple, he can't get parts and couldn't make enough to survive with the prices he had. He will be returning money as he can.. I clearly spelt that out in the email above.
08-15-2008 | 03:42 PM
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You do not have to physically travel to the state of MI to file suit against ANY entity in which a disputed monetary transaction occured over the internet.
I'll fill eveybody in on what transpires over the next few weeks after my legal activities have run their course, win or lose. I simply cannot stand by, having learned what I've learned, and do nothing to recover my money. If Scott E. had enough honor to speak for himself to those of us who've paid him money months ago then I would be able to find more patience.
I'll let everybody know what happens when it's all said and done. At this point I just want an acknowledgment from Brillelli & my refund. I am pursing Brillelli legally.
I'll fill eveybody in on what transpires over the next few weeks after my legal activities have run their course, win or lose. I simply cannot stand by, having learned what I've learned, and do nothing to recover my money. If Scott E. had enough honor to speak for himself to those of us who've paid him money months ago then I would be able to find more patience.
I'll let everybody know what happens when it's all said and done. At this point I just want an acknowledgment from Brillelli & my refund. I am pursing Brillelli legally.
08-15-2008 | 10:01 PM
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I am sorry to read this
I have no dealings with Brillelli,but it impacts me in some way,because they tried to please a small RC market and it failed for several reasons,seemingly not entirely his fault.
I cant make a donation to the business,it seems it would be a money pitt without ever seeing a positive result.
Perhaps a personal donation to the family to use the cash,or to use as for getting by without credititors being able to get to any of it.
I'd be for that,as long as I knew,Scott gets the money directly.
I have no dealings with Brillelli,but it impacts me in some way,because they tried to please a small RC market and it failed for several reasons,seemingly not entirely his fault.
I cant make a donation to the business,it seems it would be a money pitt without ever seeing a positive result.
Perhaps a personal donation to the family to use the cash,or to use as for getting by without credititors being able to get to any of it.
I'd be for that,as long as I knew,Scott gets the money directly.
08-15-2008 | 11:54 PM
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Basically I didn't see what RcPilot posted happening.. caught me off guard really. I have stepped up to the plate and am using my paypal account to collect money and will be sending him a money order directly.
