Their both 4mm thick, so not more "beefy". It looks like they are graphite however.

ok first of all im really happy with all the reply's. Thanks for everyones input. and to my loyal violator fans i decided to get one. My lhs can get it for me for 450$ but atleast i wont have to pay 30 bucks an hour when i need labor on it. When u buy the buggy from them u get free labor and tech help. they will even break it in if u want.
You hyper 7 guys need to get with the times. its a great buggy but i wouldnt be surprised to see in the near future the violator becomeing race legal once eveyone starts really buying them. Wider is better
if n e one came direct me to a place with some movies of it please let me know

http://www.rcpics.net

Search media for violator. I have a few on there. Nothing really good but I will get some good video soon. Save yourself some headache and get a better steering servo for it and if you have the money get a better throttle/brake servo too. I use a hitec hs625 for steering and a JR Z650 for throttle. Just make sure you get a metal gear with 100oz+ of torque and you'll be good. A few more things I would get are:

Extra fuel tubing
One way bearing for the rotostart(this will more than likely go out shortly after break in)
2 - 7.2 Volt batteries for the roto starter and a charger for them(required)

I also have spare parts that commonly break like suspension arms, wing, wing mount, etc. Although none of those have broke yet!

HEY THANKS FOR THE INPUT MAN AND THE SUGGESTIONS. SPEAKING OF SERVOS WHAT ABOUT THE ONES THAQT COME WITH THE NEW jr RADIO. THE SYNTH ONE. WITH NO CRYSTALS. iM THINKING OF GETTING ONE. FOR MY VIOLATOR. ARE THEY N E GOOD. tHEY SHOULD BE FOR THE MONEY[&:]

glad to see ya got a buggy, you gota great weekend warrior basher and ocasional racer! you should have lots of fun, just keep your temps down, lol.

oh and if you are really curious about hyper 7's they are ofna's baby.
goes
hyper 7 line
9.5 line
then the ulta mbx line

there is a new one in the making that will be even a step above the hyper 7. a race buggy through and through. be awhile though before it's released.

You are correct, they should be, however they are not. I believe they are just standard servos. You need high- torque metal gear servos. I think you need these servos even more than a nice radio like that. I'm still using the stock AM one that it comes with. I will upgrade eventually, but it's fine for now. Oh and for Shozz, The violator is our baby and a great racer too, RC Extreme magazine even says for racing the 9.5 pro is the best ofna. Please just realize that they are both great. I myself have no idea which is better for racing, however their are opinions out there favoring both. The 9.5 series is a great buggy camaro and don't let him make you believe it is some how inferior to ofna's hyper series. The order he made up is his opinion, and there is no top of the line, they are both equal according to ofna. Reasons why I picked the Violator over the Hyper 7 PBS were:

Quad Vented Brakes (Hyper only has dual)
Wider Supsension (10% wider then hyper's really helps in cornering and landing jumps)
Larger Fuel Tank (more running time)
Roto Start system it ships with( I liked the idea of a shaft start better than carrying around a starter box and the one that comes with the PBS is crap anyway so you would still have to upgrade, now that I've used it for a while I think it would be nice to have a goodstarter box and a pullstart for when I didn't want to lug it around, however as long as you have a couple charged batteries the shaft start system works awesome.)

So there you go and when you go look for servos just make sure your getting 100oz or better for both steering and throttle/brakes, you definitely need it. I had a Hitec HS 625 for throttle and it just wouldn't stop it and that has like 94oz too! So I would get two Hitec HS-645MG's if you want to go cheap($35 a piece) however this JR I have in for my throttle/brake cost me $45 and it is superior by far in centering and power(150 oz's) so I will probably be upgrading my steering servo to one of them shortly also. Have fun man and feel free to email me when you have problems with your break-in. You more than likely will, but just remember working on these things and figuring them out is half the fun!

Hey man thanks for the input. When my buggy gets here i hope i dont ahve that many problems. ive been fiddling around with my rc10gt lately. What a pain in the bu that thing is. So why does eveyone seem to like the hitech servos. What is wrong with the Nice Jr ones. Like if u got the upgraded ones for the synth radio not the ones that coem with it. And do n e of you guys have the new radio. Is it worth the money. Im debating on getting it. I have a XR2 now that i use for my rc10 but im not sure. I can run 3 trucks with my radio so maybe ill just get another reciever and and 2 really nice JR servos and run my xr2 with both my rc10 and violator. And how bad should i expect that violator to really be to break it in. I hope its not that bad. [8D]

You have to run a 150oz servo on thottle and brake? That seems like way to much to me. Im running one of the Hitec 500 series on thottle and break and it is very fast but has only 50 some oz of torque. Maybe not the strongest servos but it is very quick and has a very good motor and is very smooth. I can also lock the brakes like nothing on my Storm Pro.

Steve

Ok well theres the problem, Your runnign a storm PRO not a violator.
We are talking about the violator but thanks for the input

Well I broke mine in when it was like 20 degrees here so that was one thing that made it hell for me, but if you do it in warm weather and also have prior experience with nitro engines then it shouldn't be too much of a problem. It was my second nitro break in, but my first was oddly simple and probably not the norm. I set it and forgot it(Duratrax Nitro Evader BX w/ a OS .18 engine) and it still runs great. My violator takes more input from me plus I've been experimenting with different nitro contents and glow plugs so I guess thats my fault. Hitec are cheap and thats why everyone likes them although now that i have this JR for just 10 bucks more it is so worth it. Everyone says that I dont need that much on steering and braking, but mine didn't work until I had it so who knows.

Hey thanks agian guys. What are some of the good things to upgrade besides the servos when i get it.

turnbuckles i just snapped mine, u can get steel ones i think

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BAD News guys. WEll i was at the hobby store sunday and i saw a 9.5 that i kinda fell in love wtih. Its got the force 26 in it and im putting my jr xr2 radio in it. I ended up getting it because i think i may yet get into raceing. my local track lets us run outlaw motor class but they wont let me run the violator to i ended up getting the 9.5. I started it yesterday and and started breaking it in. Seems like this thing is super fast. I mean the violator is based on the 9.5 any way right. Are n e of you guys 9.5 owners. And is there any advice out there with things i should do immediatley besides the steering servo and any experience any one wants to share. Thanks. sorry to my violator owners. i think i might ahve payed a bit much for my 9.5 tho. They wanted 458 for the violator and they wanted 499$ for the 9.5. Seems a little high but im happy so far.

Cool! Great buggy! Not sure why the 9.5 would be more than the violator though. Is it the 9.5 Pro? Usually the violator is more. Anyway if you change your mind they have a violator conversion kit! All the same advice applies.

Yea i have seen the kit for like 70$ not to bad i guess. Does the extra width really help. What are some hop ups you have done. Yea i dont know why it was more cuz the stroe i got mine from has the violator for 458 and the 9.5 was 499$ lol i dont get it. O well atleast im happy with it. I wanna get that new picco 26 tho. It looks nasty. Have you seen it. Its not the force its an ofna picco 26

yeah don't listen to me nathanstl. i speak out my ass.

not like i have friends or aquantiences who race for ofna as well as design websites and cars for them. no i just talk out my butt. (sarcasm)

all the cars are fine, i never said one sucked so relax.

actually there is something new in the works that so the line up will be changing from what i said before to...

New car (can not tell ya anything else at this time)
hyper 7
9.5 (violator)
ultra series

now by no means does this list mean one car sucks or anything.
i used to own an mbx pro and it was a great starting car. it got me hooked.
but after hanging out with a few guys who race for and work/ed at ofna i ended up with a hyper 7 pro with ever dang pcr upgrade there was. actually the car came from paul then to angel then to me. (long story)

just go enjoy your new toy, after all no matter how good any of these cars are, that's all they are is toys, lol.

why do all you hyper 7 guys ahve beef with the 9.5. lol the hyper 7 is every where im sick of seeing them so i wanted something different. Why exactly is the 9.5 not as good. Im not trying to be rude im just seriously wondering why they hyper is better. I mean i am plannig on doing an entire aluminum fornt end on my9.5 n e way. Is this a good idea.

It's the same with anything in discussion groups. Whatever they have is the best and they will defend it even if they have no idea what they are talking about so they feel good about their purchase. Maybe Shozz does "think" that hyper 7 series is that much better than whatever buggy, but its just an opinion. And no SHozz I won't listen to you because you know people at ofna. Stop being so offended because I don't agree with you. Seriously man who cares who you know. I've seen both cars and it seems to me that the hyper and 9.5 series are very equal. I don't think the Violator is the shiznit or anything or definitely not that much better than the hyper series, but I do believe it has distinct advantages that in my mind made a difference. Thats it. Oh and camaro YES the width does make that big of a difference. It's not ROAR legal for a reason, because it is an unfair advantage.

Well all of this VIOLATOR talk has got me going... I made the plunge and bought one... used but "just broken in" I can't wait till it gets here. I have servos for it already I just need to get to the track.

o cool spped frek. I hope you have fun when its gets there. O hey guys by the way guess what. i am picking up my new JR synth radio tonight. cant wait. ill lket you know how i make out

Well that bited. lol i spent 2 hourse putting in my new radio and soldering and wireing to get my ofna failsafe to work with my JR receiver. What i pain in the rear. So after all that i got it in and the stupid servo horns that are on my 9.5 dont fit on my new JR servos.

So i got to go mess with my whole throttle linkage now[>:]

Has n e one elese has these problems

Just use the horns that came with your JR servos.

The horns that came with the Jr servos arnt big enough. It suks
I think i ahve to by some of them big ones that like the onses that come witht the buggy. What do you think of my new radio

I'm sure your radio is awesome. What did that cost you? Horns are cheap so it doesnt make a big differnce. All the ones I've bought come with good servo horns. I have a JR Z650.

The radio wasnt bad. It was only like 240 plus tax. and it came with a z590 for steering and a 270 for throttle so i mean the 270 is junk but that 590 seems to be awsome. like 90 oz of torque and its metal. also i ended up bying the aluminum servo horns for it. There blue to match. They wernt bad they were only like 15 bucks for both but now i got to figure out a way to get the stupid throttle linkage onto them cuz you cant just screw into them you know
Im working on it tonight besides what my GF says lol. Ill let yopu know how i make out.

P.S you should hear the 590 when i turn the radio on you can just tell it is quality. It sounds so smooth when you turn it form side to side.