I was trying to search for the article online but I couldn't find it. RCDriver did a custom build of a Torment and set it up for racing. They installed, among other items, a Boost chassis with a LCG conversion kit. They found various aluminum bits from STRC I believe. Don't quote me on that. Either way, they were able to made a competiive truck with some choice components. You're on the right track and with those parts alone you should be able to tune it's handling enough to make a noticeable difference. The LCG chassis is probably the only other modification Iwould consider.

U could problary adapt some of the slash setup guides to it

One that worked very well for my driving style was adding some weights to the rear just under the chassis, 80g weight

This does three things, increases rear traction, decreases front traction and lowers the cog slightly.

For me there was a very noticeable difference in preformance, the back end was so much more predictable and could tolerate wheel spin more easly with out spinning out.

80g sounds like a lot, but it's not much on a 2.16kg truck


I'm starting to think, it won't take long for u to outgrow the EXC and want more.

perhaps. I have owned it for over a year tho. I like any RC that doesnt break often, LOL.
If I can find a setup that allows it to turn in tighter....thats all I need. If the front can grab just a tad more than than the rear...so that if I throw it in hard the rear can step out a tad, then I should be able to run with the XXX.
Other areas, like jumps, speed, accleration and such my torment is on par with the XXX.
And on the oval track the truck is great.

I did some reading on the official torment thread (didnt know there was one before)
someone said they used slash anti roll bars. Im waiting to here what kit exactly before I buy a set for myself.

I will look into that boost chassis LCG setup. Sounds like it could be done.

I looked into the chassis coversion.
The main part you need is (or maybe was, as I couldnt actually find it for sale anywhere) $50. Then you need some other parts and a circuit chassis. Gonna run $75 to do the conversion that way.

Im gonna do the tires, links, shocks and see what its like 1st.

I had considered mounting my battery under the chassis, by just making a plate between bridging the front/rear skid plates.

look on the place that makes it site they sell it from there.

still would just use the idea and make your own out of aluminum though as it would be cheaper if I were you

You have every right to...but in a previous post you talked about not spending a lot of money. Almost everyone will say the same thing in getting certain models up to "race spec" would probably cost as much if not more than buying a new one. You wanted a happy medium but with the parts and upgrades you'll do to your existing torment - you're going to change it into a more fragile vehicle. 1st you'll have to lighten it up some and replace a fair amount of parts. For something that has been faithful to you, I would have kept it as something to have fun with while learning a new SCT. Not all SCTs were meant strictly for racing or strictly for bashing. There are SCTs that are on opposite spectrums but people know it's too costly to make a basher into a racer and a racer into a basher. I'm just saying if you were worried about money....this probably wasn't the way to go...that's all. Too many mods and $$....the question will be - was it worth doing it? It might be fun in morphing it...but will it be competitive? You never stated if this was for the run of the mill MOD class or spec...etc.

I agree with some of what you say scotty,
but on the other hand, one can drop a fair amount of $$$ into a "racing" sct as well. Im sure most who have a sc10, xxx, blitz ect all have mods/upgrades/tires ect.
Considering any of those truck is $200+ new....and you can drop another $50-$100 to make them better, I figure its worth it to put $100 into my torment and see if I get that "happy medium" Im looking for.
The only upgrade thus far that may affect durability is the slash turnbuckles....since they will not give like the stock plastic links do.
Tires, servo, shocks upgrades shouldnt hurt durability any. And I have a feeling that tires may be the single upgrade that will make a big impact on how it turns. The truck was shifting weight to the front well, but the front just seemed to push. The torment tires are MUCH harder compond than the ones on my friends losi XXX.

And when it comes down to it, I have always like having the "odd" or "unique" truck. Part of the reason I run redcat's is because very few around here do. Then they are shocked when they see the speed, and more shocked when I tell them the price, LOL.

A guy at the track last week had 2 gamblers....lots of mods...brushless....fancy tires....each truck running different setups. He had alot of money in them. But on the oval, my torment was just as fast (slower on straights, faster on the corners)
But those were wide, sweeping turns. Thats where the torment shines, as its stable and predicatable. On the really tight turns is where it suffers alot. But the other guy's gamblers just went to show that alot of money into a truck doesnt equal a good truck.
Im hoping that with new tires, adjusable camber/toe and adjustable shocks I can find a setting that will allow the truck to turn better on the tight track.

heres some pics of the track. It wasnt fully setup when we were there the other day, but you get the idea....its tight and technical.

I dont know,even if u had all the money in the world I think a bone stock SC10 or XXXSCT is going to run rings arount the EXC

wait till u race against a good sc10 driver.

seriously get yourself a good quality rc car, and i bet u will change ur mind.

dont get stuck with EXC just because they were ur first r/c

this review sums it all up in a nut shell
http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=138517

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81aqxVSsJ_E[/youtube]

the torment is hardly my 1st RC...lol. Have owned hundreds at this point.
jangs vid pretty well sums up why I love the torment. with a lipo its quick enough, the durability is high and it really doesnt handle bad for a RTR basher. Out of the box it will run rings around a slash.
But compared to a lower CG truck it shows its weaknesses. But while the torment isnt a "racer" I would call it a GOOD quality car. Im honestly impressed at what they have done with the ECX line. The cheaper ones that had the AM radio sucked, the radios were terrible. But the newer ones now come with the spektrum radio. As jang said, for a RTR radio it is REALLY nice.

Ive seen another guy at the track running a sc10 with a tekin brushless system. So ive seen what a good driver with top quality stuff can do. But Im only concerned with beating my friends losi
I think I have a touch more skill than him. So my truck just needs to be alittle bit better and my skill will make up the difference.

I wont even have $100 in upgrades to the torment (shocks, turnbuckles, tires) when I go to race again. I really think tires may be the big factor. As jang said, the tread is good but the compond is hard. I think thats the main reason for the understeer.

while stock the truck is a bit slow (even with a lipo) I have a losi 12t ESC and 15 turn motor in mine (same gear the losi xxx comes with) so my speed is basically identical to the losi. I just need to find a setup that will let it turn tighter. Like jang said, the thing that is already nice about the truck is that it can run consistantly. It doesnt surprise you. Even tho I cant turn as tight as the XXX, I can keep the same lines over and over again.


for me, its more fun to win when you dont have the "best" equipment. When we raced oval, I was faster than my friends NEW losi xxx and I could tell it bugged him. It wouldnt have bothered him if he'd been beat by a sc10/blitz/xxx ect. Getting beat by a lowly torment tho, thats gotta sting!

hehe, ur as bad as me. I build mine to beat friends too lol

ok i think i get it now, could u say ur building a track car for friendly racing?

ive done the same with a slash, its setup for our local track, but it far from been a race worthy truck
it fine against my mates slash but it struggles with anything els, its got plenty of power and speed, (mesured @ 0.74hp with a watt meter)
but im finding its very easy to traction roll and i loose so much speed around the tight sweeping bends. compared to the 1/10 stadium trucks
from what u are saying the EXC has the oppsit problem to the slash, im trying to decrease front traction on my slash and u are trying to increase the front traction.

hey just thinking, ive fitted some Losi XXX shocks to my slash and ive got nearly every spring rate for them, it makes setting up so simple. It doesent take long to swap over the springs and even changing the oil is so simple. because they fill from the bottom u just un bolt the bottom ballend from the suspension, swing the shock up on the top mount, and unscrew the oring cartridge. simple as that.
Because the top of the shock is part of the housing and NOT a screw on cap u dont have to worry about it leaking there, or even breaking off, allso u can get TiN coated shafts for added protection to the shaft. they only have one possible spot to leak, and u can buy oring cartridge's for next to nothing

it doesent cost much for the shocks and the springs are so cheap, great upgrade IMO

In racing, the first tuning you do is the tires, then the rest of the truck, they make such a difference
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Victory is soooo much sweeter when you win and are considered the underdog

Plus the looks on the peoples faces that own expensive gear when they contort just add to the pleasure...
Not raced RC's, but I've done it in other things, I've gotten some insanely competitive people so mad I've had 30-50lb objects flung at my head(REALLY glad they were so mad they couldn't aim properly) also seen a few walls get holes punched through em
I guess its a good thing I dropped out of being competitive as someone probably would have killed me by now with how I like to win

wow, what sport is this?
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sports? it was playing arcade games(actually had an arcade machine flung by a player into a wall after I whooped him), and at a LAN party had a old heavy ass 22 inch CRT flung at my head Generally I use the worst(and generally cheapest) things in games. I use strategies that make me look like I suck, or am some noob, and end up whooping ass. I've also had multiple death threats Hell I've had chess players go bananas on me and fling a chess board at me. I'm extremely good at playing with my opponents minds, getting them to drop their guard, luring them into traps, and annihilating them mercilessly But my play style kinda makes ppl never want to play against me again so its hard to find people to play games against, and online games I'm just not competitive in at all as it doesn't carry that same fun of seeing their face cringe
Now the people that did play me multiple times granted the I suck, and don't know what I'm doing approach works one time maybe 2(if I make em believe I just got lucky), then I usually play for real, and scare em off.

Would love to get into RC racing, but I work double shifts on weekends, and only track I know of that races is about 2 hours away(and races on weekends...) so that is pretty no go

hear ya syco, I havent gotten into racing yet.
But my hobby shop's track is open 5 days a week from 12-5pm. so me an a buddy go there and race eachother. Granted, there are no turnmarshels or lap counters....but we can still tell who's faster.
Sometimes we do-1st to complete 3 laps, and other times we do race to the other guy crashes (a crash which would require a turnmashel)

And more than once there has been someone else there practicing as well.

Its $10 for upto 3 hours of track time. Its cheaper than bowling...LOL

lucky track by me is like tues - thurs 5pm till 10pm during the week(if there not racing), and seeing its rush hour at that time I'd have to leave here damn near 2pm to make it there. Now if it was those times like you got I'd maybe consider trying it once. Really sucky thing is there was an indoor track like 15 minutes away from me I found out about it 2 months after it it got shut down...(the suburb they were in shut em down for some stupid reason)

yeh, RACING is like friday 5-9 SCT, some time on sat and oval SCT track on sunday 2-6. But weekdays you can go between 12-5 for free run/practice on the track.

Ive considered going to the oval SCT on sundays. Oval track is fun, and not as difficult as the SCT track. But I dont really want to spend $15 for 3 hours...only 1-1.5 of which may be time I actually race. Dont feel like waiting for my heat and such. But I may still give it a shot some day. It would be nice to race with turnmarshels and lap counters.

At my backyard track I tried that lap counter program that uses a laptop and net cam. It actually works fairly well, as long as your truck isnt black....or 2 of the trucks are really close in color.

I was looking on tower hobbies and tempted to pull the trigger on a SC10 RTR. $180 shipped after the promo code and free shipping. With ezpay thats only $60/month. But I already have 2 more payments to make on my arrma raider, and really want to buy new tires for my torment (figure $50) so that doesnt really give me money to make the 1st payment on the sc10 right now.
Maybe if my tamiya tl-01 sells on ebay I will do it.

I'm with Scotty on this one.
You can chase your tail, buying every upgrade available, and at the end of the day you'll have spent a lot more money playing underdog than you would have had you started with a race-spec or factory team kit by one of the main brands that tend to win all the races.

Your story reminds me of a buddy of mine that started with a Slash, bound and determined to make it competitive.
He rolled his eyes when I got a new TLR 22SCT, saying it's $370 retail price was too high - yet when everything was said and done mine was competitive out of the box (no upgrades needed), and he had every doo-dad and what-not and hop-up and cool part available bolted to his now $800 slash and he never comes close to winning.
It's kind of like trying to make a hotrod out of a Yugo. Sure you can play underdog, but at the end of the day you still have a pile of junk you dumped a lot of money into and aren't going anywhere except having the most expensive Yugo in town.

Good luck.
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you may be right....
but I would NEVER put that kinda money into my torment. A $800 slash is a huge waste of money.

I bought my torment new, and sold the radio right away and slapped a $10 rx into it. So I had only $120 into the truck.

I just bought $10 turnbuckles, $20 front shocks, already has $20 rear shocks and will likely pay $50 for tires.

So all together Im at $220 with new tires. Out of the box the torment will toast a slash 2wd.

I considered a LCG chassis....and I may still do this if I can figure out a way to make one myself. But Im hoping the tires alone will make a difference.

All I need is for the truck not to push on the tight 180 degree turns!

But that's how it starts. Give it a few months and you'll have double that into it.
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get this made into a sticker (or paint it on a new body as it seems pretty simple)
point out you are the underdog with your vehicle when you race

hahaha it reminds me of some guy had on the back of this touring car shell "you just got the shaft"<div>
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went to the track again today.

I had new slash links installed on the front of the torment. With some more camber dialed in, the "turn in" was much better. Was it as good as the XXX, no. But it was good enough that I could have run racing it.
And this was 1 change! My new front shocks didnt arrive in time, and I havent bought tires yet either (cash ran short this week)

The slash links mainly allowed for adjustments....but they also took some of the play out of the front end. The stock plastic links flexed to much...and the ball end of them were worn and moved side to side. So just putting on the slash links tightened up the front end a fair bit.

The turn in was much better. I will play with settings next week once I have the new shocks on the front. I want the rear to "rotate" some. If I can get it to do that, then it will be even faster.

I also need to cut holes in the body, as it will parachute some.

I am still considering buying a new SCT. While the torment was much better today, I think the stock steering setup (bellcrank) can never be as tight as on the XXX. I did add a zip tie to the servo saver (its not adjustable) to make it give less. But being a basher truck, there is still more play on the front then on the brand new XXX of my friends.

So the question still remains what I will get! SC10, Blitz, XXX or....?

well, I ended up getting a used SC10 today.

I sold my arrma raider, which almost covered the cost of the truck

good: was only $125 and has a AE brushless system
Bad: tires are toast.

But $125 for a brushless sc10 that only needs a radio/rx...and tires aint bad at all.

ok im lost lol

this is the most contradicting thread ive ever read


Does this mean u have realised that a cheap lowend brand SCT will never match the big brand boys in preformance & durability?