It would be in everyones best interest if you make sure you know what you are talking about before posting. This just leads to misinformation being spread and newer users have a hard time differentiating fact from nonsense. Lithium polymer cells (and ALL forms of rechargeable batteries) can be damaged if individual cell voltage drops below a certain point. That particular threshold varies based on the configuration and kind of cell in question, so the same rules that you apply to sealed lead acid batteries cannot be applied to Nickel metal hydride batteries or lithium polymer batteries. All rechargeable batteries can be damaged by overcharging or overdishcharging. In the case of lipos, people familiar with the technology seem to agree that the load should be removed when the cell potential drops below 3 volts. You may or may not be able to revive a deeply discharged lipo, but regardless you are shortening the life of the battery if you do not follow accepted charging and discharging guidelines.

Done, Finished.

Everything is good.

End here.

This thing will go on and on and on, there will be no end.!

New topic.

Winter is dominating Summer ! [X(]

You and I both know that no matter how many times we say it, It will continue. Compition is a good thing, It will preasure the nitros and the electrics to get better.

Sorry to say, this is not ending anytime soon.

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Good post!

I have been heavily into Park Flyers for several years and have been using LiPO's for about 3 years now. At the present time, the lower limit for every LiPO cell IS 3.0V. If you discharge below that, kiss it goodbye. It is very important to have a 3.0V BEC when running any LiPO to protect your investment. On the flip side, it is also important to have a cell balancer when charging a LiPO to ensure that all cells in the pack are equal. LiPOs are rated at 3.7V per cell. a 2S LiPO pack is 7.4V, a 3S LiPO pack is 11.1V, and so on. No cell in these packs should be allowed to discharge below 3.0V or you can kiss the pack goodbye.

It is important to get and give correct information to help new folks in the hobby. Bad information can cause someone new frustration, money, injury, and in extreme cases, disaster. If you know what you're talking about, please share. If you don't know what you're talking about, please keep quiet until you do. If you're unsure, make sure that point is known.

I'm not going to get into the discussion of whether nitro or electric is "better". I own and enjoy both for differing reasons. I suspect we all have our preferences and that should not necessarily impact another's preference, nor should any attempt be made to force your opinion on someone else.

Well the name of the thread is enough to start an instant flame war. So I see all kinds of post about blah blah blah. I post my video asking if any eletric guys do this. This is the response I get.

Since I live in the same town as this poster. I ask him to come to my bashing grounds so his brushless can kill my nitro in every way. still havent heard a response. and who says I 'tweak' my engine all day. If you don't have a clue don't speculate. anyway Brad, Im still waiting.

Thank You hilifemt

Im starting to sound like a broken cassete.!

Everyone to their own.!

Yeah, but as long as everyone gets the message. This is a hobby, and you should do what you want!

This is bad!Electric has become so popular that all my lhs have shut down there outdoor nitro tracks and are putting ELECTRIC ONLY tracks in warehouses.I don't get it,I switched from electric to nitro and I love it!More power,more run time,and no waiting for batteries to charge.

Thats because the T-Maxx is a piece of crap,nobody likes it.

That's a pretty broad generalization. Hmm... have you polled everyone on this?

Since when do nitros have more power? With Lipo batteries, runtime isn't a problem anymore. They are cleaner, quiter, and atleast as powerful. I can understand why people are switching over to them.

A123 cells charge in 15 minutes... That doesn't sound like anything compared to what you have to do to keep your nitro running.

I like it. Sure, It's not the best thing out anymore, but It's still a good truck. Ever since the Revo came out people have not liked it for some reason.

He said it's hard to start... Doesn't traxxas use all the same engines and starters? So you would think if he was having problems with the T-maxx starting, It's not just the T-maxx, it's the engine and the starter...

Nitro gives people problems sometimes. Don't get down, stick with it. Keep your brushless for when your nitro is throwing a fit. Keep the nitro so you have something to do while your batteries are charging.

wipe out, what do us nitro guys have to do to keep our nitros running? Just because most noobs dont have what it takes for nitros, dont catergorize it with the ones that do. Nitro is easy for me to run. More than likely because I know what Im doing. This thread is annoying.

Some of the posts are getting a bit close to the edge; can we please not pass judgement or think differently of someone just because they prefer one thing over another? Talking down to someone, or thinking they might be beneath you because of an opinion is not the right approach for anything in life.

I'll be happy to lock the thread if enough people disagree!

Keep in mind, I have never owned a nitro. I have however, ran them. All of the times I've seen them, they look like a lot of down time and little play time.

It seems like the glow plugs are running out, engine needs to be sprayed, air filters need to be cleaned, engine has to warm up, have to tune it, lean it, charge the starter, start it, run, start.

This is just what I've seen. My friend may just be an ammature.

@ Wipe

Im with hilifemt on this one.

When I wanna run for a short while, just fill up my 750CC filler bottle, put my glow igniter in my pocket, take my radio and truck and im out. 5 tanks last me about 50 mins...

And when I go to the track, I go all out, 2 gallons of Nitro, spares for everything, 3 glow igniters, batteries etccc..

And once im done, air compresser + after run oil, and put my truck back on its stand...

There is nothing more to do... If something breaks, replace it...


@ RCtruckRacer

No ones ever gonna agree, there are 1.5 sides ( Nitro/Gas and Electric ), people on both sides will never come to a conclusion, and thats that.


Again

Run what you run and love it.!

Just my own .02 on this subject:

I like both equally, but for different reasons. Anyone that has been to an indoor nitro race knows the eye stinging, hard to breathe air is a big downer. Electric indoor racing is a really nice change. You can have a conversation in the pits, and don't need headphones to hear a radio.

But, outdoors nitros are more fun for me. Just one thing to say here: 60 minute A mains.



They both have their place.

BTW just a general question, dont you need to discharge your batteries or something like that after your' done running your electric.?

I thought about getting a Revo. I started using my friends T-maxx more and more until I was convinced on gas. Then I started seeing it more and decided to go with brushless.
Yes, I did run nitro. I must have put 10 tanks of gas through his truck.

You make it sound real easy. I guess my friend just makes it seem harder.. I really can't say a thing bad about my brushless though.

It's got the power, when I need it, and It never breaks. (not that your nitro does)

Some people probbibly do, but I don't. I just discharge it in the car. When the car starts to slow down (low batteries) I take it in and throw in another one.
Lipos can balance when there charging so I don't think theres much work there.
A123 are indistructable.

I think Nicad is the one that needs to be discharged. They have a memory effect. Not many people that I know use them anymore though.

Ill be honest here.

Yes my Nitro does brake.

Like today. Ran into a REVO at full throttle today.!

All that broke was the right steering knuckle and C hub, cheap to replace, easy to fix.

It wasnt so lucky for the Revo.! He needs an entire new front end.! Shocks, steering plate, all the arms, all gone...

But then in a situation like that, all trucks would brake.!

Well, that has to do with the truck. That could happen to nitro or electric.

Gotta love the smell of nitro tho. Have you ever been to a NHRA Top fuel\funny car race? Its an assault on the senses, lol. Its fun walking in the pits when they do morning startup and clutch seating, the whole pit area is blue with nitro exhaust. If you stand right next to the car it gets bad, but i like the smell of nitro in the morning.

The smell of nitro burns my eyes. It does smell good from farther away though. I guess you probbibly get used to it.