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Old 02-17-2002 | 11:42 PM
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Is there any trick to get the 5000t gyro to heading hold The wind was a bit brisk today (15mph) and the heli would weather vien in to the wind. I have the gyro setup HH all the time. My Futabas gyros didn't do ths. They held!
Old 02-18-2002 | 02:42 AM
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You possibly have something incorrect, I have 3 5000T's, two flying at this time. The performance is excellent and they lock up rock solid. I can fly sideways so fast it puts a huge load on the engine but holds the tail. Are you sure you have it set to Tail lock? What collor is the light? Give us more info.

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Old 02-19-2002 | 10:28 AM
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yah more info!,my 5k's work great too........really easy to set up....
Old 02-20-2002 | 01:28 AM
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Well the LED is green and I have it wired for HH on all the time. Not sure what else to tell ya. I only have a little bit(one click) of trim in the radio
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What's the gain set at? How long of servo arm are using on the tail rotor servo?

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Old 02-23-2002 | 01:39 AM
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with the 5000 you cant have any trim from the tx it has to be done on the linkage.
I have a 601 and the book says you can trim it to center between the modes via the tx but if you do this it also screws the gyro up. some how it seems to deteriorate the constant rate feel of the gyro system.
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Vince you can trim the 5000T without problems. On my 10X I trim each flight mode separately via software. No problems at all.

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Old 02-23-2002 | 05:31 AM
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Rick I am sure if you read the book it says to trim the 5000 mechanically not electronically, but i could be wrong its bin a while since I had one. any gyro can be trimed on the radio but for best performance always do it mechanically.
If your gyro system is setup right in heading hold you do not need different trims for the flight condiions. all the condition rudder trims should be the same. the only thing that should be different is lower gains for higher head speeds.
If you have to trim, that tells me one you are in normal mode or you have some kind of mix happening. just my 2 cents
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I have 0 trim in idle up 1 and 2 useing tail lock. I have left 4 in N in rate mode. This is due to my 10X code 47 tail-pitch curve not being dialed in a 100% but plenty good for what I use if for. I mainly just spool up in rate mode on the 5000T and once the 80 is warmed up I switch to idle up and go to tail lock. I own three 5000T's. I few clicks either way on the trims in any flight mode is not a factor.

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Old 02-23-2002 | 03:59 PM
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rick I had the 5000 in for about 10 gallons I got it dialed in very quick. One thing that I liked about the 5000 was the book it tells you the best gain range and it talks about the servo arm length.
boom right out of the gate the constant rate was so pure I fell in love with it.
one of my favorite moves is to pull into a stall turn and let it fall backwards with just a tick of rudder input and see how slow you can get the piroete just one or 2 rotation. looks very cool when done smooth. the 5000 did this perfect cause of the instructions.
The 601 did not do this out of the box just because the book does not talk about servo arm length and so on I have the constant rate very solid now. as soon as I applied the same method as tuning the 5000 to the 601 the constant rate started work properly.
rick You will know what I am talking about when I say constant rate.
constant rate is the gyro system ability to hold a constant pirouette rate reguardless of the air speed. 0 air speed which any gyro can do or 80 mph.very few heli's can keep up with a gyro at the higher speeds.
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Default Done with 5000t

Vince B,

You can trim the 601 with the radio, then reset the avcs mode to eliminate the drift caused by the triming in normal mode.

After you trim the tail in normal mode and flip to avcs mode it will drift (of course). To reset this quick, land and flip from normal to avcs mode 3 times fast. Dont touch the rudder for a sec. this will reset its neutral location. Also, if you have to add alot of trim, adjust some of it back with linkages.

I missed this the first time through the setup too.

Jeff

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