If it's not a a low fly by, then what the hell is it, Illegal???? That's the way it should be done, Low.

No way Jose, go Blue Angels, any day of the week

Hey look who's back from moderated status!!!
Dude you just got back and you want another preferred platinum ticket to moderation?

Chill out. Red Arrows are great, so are snowbirds, Frecce Tricolori and Blue Angels. They all work their esses off to entertain us.

I enjoy a good flypast as much as the next guy. It's all about degree. Some of the examples posted here are way worse than others, and the level of disciplinary action taken will reflect the level of foolishness demonstrated by the pilot. The original example was not too serious relative to some of the others shown - if indeed it was authorised for min 1000', it shows poor judgement by the pilots. If, however, it was properly authed for 300' then the only criticism I have is of the formation, which was not great! There is a saying: 'A superior pilot uses his superior judgement to avoid those situations where he may need his superior flying skills!'

PS - I hope you've enjoyed watching all those flypasts as they went over! I've certainly enjoyed doing my share of them whilst looking down from the jet, and my 'judgement' may not always have been perfect , but I learnt my lessons!

Wow, some one stated snowbirds, now I am impressed with you yanks!!

I managed to see the TB's at the last Cold Lake airshow, wow. Even though I am not american, it gave me the goosebumps seeing their routine.

I miss a good style airshow, they have been pretty tame here in Canada since 9/11. I think it is all due to us fighting in a war right now. Hopefully cold lake will be back soon.

LOL!

The Reds fly a trainer...a little putt putt jet. The U.S. teams fly front line fighters...real machines...super sonic lead slingers.

Maybe one day the Reds will graduate to real jets....but then they do...they will have to buy 'em from us!

Beave [sm=lol.gif]

I need to start attending collage games...

David

Don't feed it!

Yea - And the snowbirds put on an even better show with 1/3rd the power of the Red Arrows!!

Drivin' T-45'?
Those Ace fledglings gotta start somewhere.

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You said it "gotta start somewhere"...but they move on to big jets...fast jets...real fighters...not staying in Grannie's Sunday morning church runner!

Cheers,

Beave

True Beave.

Factoid: Low Fly-by's have been going on for millions of years....

Quist, you've earned this attachment.

When your nearest adversary is French, then "Grannie's Sunday morning church runner" is probably all you need.

3-2-1..... moved to full scale forum........

Truth isthe O-6 or O-7 doing the chewing and firingwas likely NEVER very good at being a "young buck", just good at covering his ***** and being a good "Staff Officer". Pa Tooie......


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RBardin -.......and the guys chewing them out were young bucks once too. ...........
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Anyone see the C17 video from Alaska? That's why we have rules on how to do airshows. Oh yeah, lets not forget the B52 at Fairchild, the F16 that crashed on his father-in-law's farm, there was an A10 pilot who crashed at his parents "lawn party airshow" several years back ,bet that made a lasting impression on all the guests. One screw up and you have a smokin hole at the 50 yard line...wont be pretty.

Don't forget the Nashville F-14 that crashed on takeoff into a neighborhood, killing 5 people, including a baby. The pilots last words to his parents prior to takeoff was "hey...make sure to watch me takeoff".

The T-Bird at Mountain home...

The Blue at Cherry Point...

The Tucano in Brazil...

The Red Arrow mid air in March...just to name a few...

There are times...and there are places...but it is never when you put civilians at risk just to do a demo.

Beave

If all the nay sayer's had their way Tex Johnson would have been fired from Boeing and the 707 airliner/KC-135 tanker would have been disregarded. If we applied today to years ago, we would have never broke the sound barrier or gone to the moon when we did.

Oh well, those were the days before everyone else knew what was better for someone else.

+1 Beave

exactly 1000ft is called a fly "over"

Just what would the rah rah!'s say when the news states "100 teenagers badly burned, 50 killed" by Navy flyover or whatever. Just take a look at the recent Alberta Canada high alpha with one engine out result. Yeah! Nothing can go wrong. Nothing can go wrong....nothing....

I am glad you got my point that the Red Arrows do all they do without all that power.

Exactly that! Illegal, as it should be.

In a populated area, I doubt that an extra 700 ft is going to make that much difference. People are going to be in danger... Maybe they should make it a mandatory 10000ft??? That should keep everyone safe...

Exactly....