My first jet was a SM 1:8 F-16. I loved it, Super easy to fly and land, Just a bit on the smaller side.

Nor will I ever with prices like theirs. Same reason I don't buy a lot of things. Regardless you ARE paying MORE for a NAME than anything else. As long as they have people like you it's not likely it will change any time soon either.

But then again, any form of competition that is not an already accepted name by those "in the know" will always be demonized instead of being assisted to bring their products up in quality, because people in the RC community, especially jets, don't understand basic economics.

Funny, there have been many posts about a faulty BVM products too, but they are quickly swept under the rug.

Once again you speak of something YOU know nothing about. you won't find a single BVM jet in my fleet BUT i've built and flown enough of them that i can make an Educated post in regards to their quality which is leaps and bounds above the vast majority of other MFGs. YOU haven't any first hand experience with BVM and my post simply pointed out that fact. if it was as simple as a 'sticker' as you put it, i've got a 48" plotter and i'd cut out BVM decals for every jet i build and stick them on the parts prior to assembly and then all the parts would magically fit perfectly and the instruction book would become a step by step book rather then a few pics in a PDF file and Patty and Uncle Bob would always be right there with parts and support............geeze wonder why nobody else ever thought to just put stickers on the parts before????

Wrong! They are quickly FIXED, and the fix is promulgated to the entire customer base - sometimes even at BVM's expense. Yes, BVM jets are expensive, but if they have the kind of jet you want and you can afford it, you will not regret the purchase. If you want something that BVM doesn't offer, or can't afford a BVM kit, there are plenty of other viable alternatives, but I would be willing to bet that you will not find many, if any, people who have actually bought and built a BVM kit that will complain that they paid too much...

Bob

yes BVM has high prices but quality is un matched I've built a few of his planes and all parts fit and they flew great

Hi,

BVM jets are among the highest quality...no doubt. Of course, all of this is a matter of opinion, and my opinion is that they are excellent....but NOT unmatched. I've always felt that the tip-top quality make on the market is JMP, and it always has been. They don't have very many side-by-side products to compare, but I've owned both the BVM and JMP T-33 kits, and the BVM (as good as it was) was inferior to the JMP in every quantifiable way. I've only owned one BVM sport-jet (Maverick), but my hands-on exposure to the JMP sport-jet kits leads me to the same opinion on those.

For scale as first jet i can highly recommend CARF Eurofighter with behotech C-50 UC or the Philip Avonds F-15 with robart UC. Both flies and lands easy and are very robost and durable.

I will NOT recommend the smal xtreme jets Hawk as your first jet, in matter of fact i want recommend it at all. The bigger one though is a lot better, but for a hawk i would much rather go for CARF or Airworld.

I have the same choice with you. But  you seem more professional about that. Hoping that I can learn from you .

Hi,

Thank you guys to help me.

I think I´m going to buy the Tornado. The price is really good for a first jet and if I crash I will cry just one night

After I learn how to flya jet I canbuy a scale model

Do you guys know where can I find articles or a good book ? A beginner guide to jets would be great

Best Regards

Roberto, If you want a Hawk, I recommend the CARF one. It's bigger and lighter than the small Skymaster (extreme) or FEJ and much better engineered. Fly's like a big ***** cat as long as you have decent flying skills and lands nice as long as you have a jet friendly field and approach.

Mike

Do you have a link to the CARF one ?

http://carf-models.com/public_carf/p...tle=BAE%20Hawk