Kudos to Jet Central
11-28-2011, 10:15 AM
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Kudos to Jet Central
Although I’m a long time user of Jet Central turbines I generally stay away from the threads arguing over which one is the best, who has the best service and which ones are better served to be flame throwers. It’s just way too political and besides many of us in the hobby are brand loyalists that will never change.
But something happened recently that is just too good not to share with everyone. At SJS in late September my 5 year old Rhino, serial number 60 with over 46 hours of flawless use and no service history flamed out on the takeoff roll. It had never been in for service frankly because it was produced before the lifetime warranty and I felt why mess with it at 25 hours if it was running fine. Well I decided it was time to let Eric take it back and let the factory rebuild it. To my total surprise what I received back was basically a brand new zero time turbine complete with kero-start and a new battery for a price that was very reasonable. Great job Jet Central and Eric!
But something happened recently that is just too good not to share with everyone. At SJS in late September my 5 year old Rhino, serial number 60 with over 46 hours of flawless use and no service history flamed out on the takeoff roll. It had never been in for service frankly because it was produced before the lifetime warranty and I felt why mess with it at 25 hours if it was running fine. Well I decided it was time to let Eric take it back and let the factory rebuild it. To my total surprise what I received back was basically a brand new zero time turbine complete with kero-start and a new battery for a price that was very reasonable. Great job Jet Central and Eric!
11-28-2011, 08:39 PM
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Just too bad the fact there are so many "brand loyalists that will never change.", will never allow for ALL RC turbine manufacturers to be that quality.
It's also sad at the same time it keeps turbine models in the mortgage your home price range for most folks.
I hope one day it is hobby loyalty instead of brand loyalty especially with the inflation that is coming down the pipe.
Brand loyalty is going to push a lot of people out of the hobby all together in the long run, because basic economics is not a well understood concept in the RC world.
It's also sad at the same time it keeps turbine models in the mortgage your home price range for most folks.
I hope one day it is hobby loyalty instead of brand loyalty especially with the inflation that is coming down the pipe.
Brand loyalty is going to push a lot of people out of the hobby all together in the long run, because basic economics is not a well understood concept in the RC world.
11-28-2011, 09:33 PM
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While there is merit in what you're saying, I think you are missing a key point. Though I welcome competition, I can't afford to purchase one of every new brand that comes out just to subsidize it.
Speaking only for myself, I am "brand loyal" because I have sense enough to stick with what works for me. Should I get adventurous enough to spring for brand X and it doesn't work out, I'm screwed. I can't afford to keep buying turbines until I find a good one. Buy a turbine, run it once and see how much you can sell it for. A hell of a lot less than you paid for it.
Picking the wrong turbine is expensive in other ways too, even if it runs OK. I've heard way too many stories of turbines that were running fine being sent in for their 25 hr. service, only to incur $800.00+ bills. I'm not wealthy and I fly too much to open myself up to that kind of nonsense. Lifetime warranty, service agreement, whatever you want to call it, makes this hobby as affordable and predictable as it's ever going to get. That having been stated, the main reason I welcome competition is that it keeps Eric and the guys at the factory on their toes and ensures that my next turbine from them will be that much better. Brand loyalty will NOT kill this hobby. There will always be multiple brands, each with it's own loyal following.
These brands will continue to raise the standards by which turbines are judged. Any newcomer brand had better be damned good or very inexpensive to last any amount of time in the marketplace. As far as the "very inexpensive" angle is concerned, I suggest reading the JetJoe thread elsewhere.
I've recently been helping a fellow flyer get ready for his waiver test. His turbine is a Kingtech. It is bulky, heavy and not as user-friendly out of the box. It runs fine, however, and is priced lower than the competition. Five years from now, Kingtech just might be a major player in the RC turbine market. Meanwhile, I'll stick with what works for me.
Speaking only for myself, I am "brand loyal" because I have sense enough to stick with what works for me. Should I get adventurous enough to spring for brand X and it doesn't work out, I'm screwed. I can't afford to keep buying turbines until I find a good one. Buy a turbine, run it once and see how much you can sell it for. A hell of a lot less than you paid for it.
Picking the wrong turbine is expensive in other ways too, even if it runs OK. I've heard way too many stories of turbines that were running fine being sent in for their 25 hr. service, only to incur $800.00+ bills. I'm not wealthy and I fly too much to open myself up to that kind of nonsense. Lifetime warranty, service agreement, whatever you want to call it, makes this hobby as affordable and predictable as it's ever going to get. That having been stated, the main reason I welcome competition is that it keeps Eric and the guys at the factory on their toes and ensures that my next turbine from them will be that much better. Brand loyalty will NOT kill this hobby. There will always be multiple brands, each with it's own loyal following.
These brands will continue to raise the standards by which turbines are judged. Any newcomer brand had better be damned good or very inexpensive to last any amount of time in the marketplace. As far as the "very inexpensive" angle is concerned, I suggest reading the JetJoe thread elsewhere.
I've recently been helping a fellow flyer get ready for his waiver test. His turbine is a Kingtech. It is bulky, heavy and not as user-friendly out of the box. It runs fine, however, and is priced lower than the competition. Five years from now, Kingtech just might be a major player in the RC turbine market. Meanwhile, I'll stick with what works for me.
11-29-2011, 12:57 PM
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There is a reason for brand loyalty.
By coincidence, just as I was reading this thread, my phone rang and it was Eric. At first I thought he may have dialed the wrong number. He was just calling to see if I had any problems or needed anything and to wish me happy holidays. Customer follow up goes a long way in gaining loyal customers.
By coincidence, just as I was reading this thread, my phone rang and it was Eric. At first I thought he may have dialed the wrong number. He was just calling to see if I had any problems or needed anything and to wish me happy holidays. Customer follow up goes a long way in gaining loyal customers.
11-29-2011, 02:16 PM
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I agree with Vincent.
This story is really the norm, at least as far as my experience with Jet Central and several other vendors. It is what I expect and why I use them and stay with them. But I still think it is a good thing for the public to know about things related to our hobby, good and/or bad. And I think it is good that our vendors see we are watching and by extension passing on our expectations of them.
This story is really the norm, at least as far as my experience with Jet Central and several other vendors. It is what I expect and why I use them and stay with them. But I still think it is a good thing for the public to know about things related to our hobby, good and/or bad. And I think it is good that our vendors see we are watching and by extension passing on our expectations of them.
11-29-2011, 05:20 PM
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ORIGINAL: sailing1
I agree with Vincent.
This story is really the norm, at least as far as my experience with Jet Central and several other vendors. It is what I expect and why I use them and stay with them. But I still think it is a good thing for the public to know about things related to our hobby, good and/or bad. And I think it is good that our vendors see we are watching and by extension passing on our expectations of them.
I agree with Vincent.
This story is really the norm, at least as far as my experience with Jet Central and several other vendors. It is what I expect and why I use them and stay with them. But I still think it is a good thing for the public to know about things related to our hobby, good and/or bad. And I think it is good that our vendors see we are watching and by extension passing on our expectations of them.
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11-29-2011, 05:59 PM
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Why is this ''story'' so exciting?? i get that kind of service from my ''brand'' all the time.[:-]
Vin...
Why is this ''story'' so exciting?? i get that kind of service from my ''brand'' all the time.[:-]
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11-29-2011, 06:53 PM
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While there is merit in what you're saying, I think you are missing a key point. Though I welcome competition, I can't afford to purchase one of every new brand that comes out just to subsidize it.
Speaking only for myself, I am ''brand loyal'' because I have sense enough to stick with what works for me. Should I get adventurous enough to spring for brand X and it doesn't work out, I'm screwed. I can't afford to keep buying turbines until I find a good one. Buy a turbine, run it once and see how much you can sell it for. A hell of a lot less than you paid for it.
Picking the wrong turbine is expensive in other ways too, even if it runs OK. I've heard way too many stories of turbines that were running fine being sent in for their 25 hr. service, only to incur $800.00+ bills. I'm not wealthy and I fly too much to open myself up to that kind of nonsense. Lifetime warranty, service agreement, whatever you want to call it, makes this hobby as affordable and predictable as it's ever going to get. That having been stated, the main reason I welcome competition is that it keeps Eric and the guys at the factory on their toes and ensures that my next turbine from them will be that much better. Brand loyalty will NOT kill this hobby. There will always be multiple brands, each with it's own loyal following.
These brands will continue to raise the standards by which turbines are judged. Any newcomer brand had better be damned good or very inexpensive to last any amount of time in the marketplace. As far as the ''very inexpensive'' angle is concerned, I suggest reading the JetJoe thread elsewhere.
I've recently been helping a fellow flyer get ready for his waiver test. His turbine is a Kingtech. It is bulky, heavy and not as user-friendly out of the box. It runs fine, however, and is priced lower than the competition. Five years from now, Kingtech just might be a major player in the RC turbine market. Meanwhile, I'll stick with what works for me.
While there is merit in what you're saying, I think you are missing a key point. Though I welcome competition, I can't afford to purchase one of every new brand that comes out just to subsidize it.
Speaking only for myself, I am ''brand loyal'' because I have sense enough to stick with what works for me. Should I get adventurous enough to spring for brand X and it doesn't work out, I'm screwed. I can't afford to keep buying turbines until I find a good one. Buy a turbine, run it once and see how much you can sell it for. A hell of a lot less than you paid for it.
Picking the wrong turbine is expensive in other ways too, even if it runs OK. I've heard way too many stories of turbines that were running fine being sent in for their 25 hr. service, only to incur $800.00+ bills. I'm not wealthy and I fly too much to open myself up to that kind of nonsense. Lifetime warranty, service agreement, whatever you want to call it, makes this hobby as affordable and predictable as it's ever going to get. That having been stated, the main reason I welcome competition is that it keeps Eric and the guys at the factory on their toes and ensures that my next turbine from them will be that much better. Brand loyalty will NOT kill this hobby. There will always be multiple brands, each with it's own loyal following.
These brands will continue to raise the standards by which turbines are judged. Any newcomer brand had better be damned good or very inexpensive to last any amount of time in the marketplace. As far as the ''very inexpensive'' angle is concerned, I suggest reading the JetJoe thread elsewhere.
I've recently been helping a fellow flyer get ready for his waiver test. His turbine is a Kingtech. It is bulky, heavy and not as user-friendly out of the box. It runs fine, however, and is priced lower than the competition. Five years from now, Kingtech just might be a major player in the RC turbine market. Meanwhile, I'll stick with what works for me.
I just hope those in RC that have children aren't rearing their children the way they post on RCU. And, we wonder why kids are so screwed up now days.
11-29-2011, 08:16 PM
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I really don't think this hobby is any different than any other item. Be it Ford/Chevy, Sony/RCA, I-phone/Droid whatever the product segment may be people are brand loyal. That is really a good thing, mostly because there was some reason they decided upon that brand of product. What it does do is lower prices and make competition in the service end of it. Take Japanese cars, in the 60's - 70's they were total crap, but served a market as people could get them a lot cheaper, their products improved along with service and today they are more expensive than American made, and there are more of them made in the USA than "American Made" cars.
Take for instance the Taiwanese turbines today, they are cheaper rt now, but when they get established and if the service is on par with or better than the others you will see their prices come up.
Their is nothing wrong with brand loyalty with the exception of the blind faith I do see in some. Such as someone having an issue with something and the "loyalists" come out in droves, kind of funny actually.
Take for instance the Taiwanese turbines today, they are cheaper rt now, but when they get established and if the service is on par with or better than the others you will see their prices come up.
Their is nothing wrong with brand loyalty with the exception of the blind faith I do see in some. Such as someone having an issue with something and the "loyalists" come out in droves, kind of funny actually.
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ORIGINAL: jclittle
Although I’m a long time user of Jet Central turbines I generally stay away from the threads arguing over which one is the best, who has the best service and which ones are better served to be flame throwers. It’s just way too political and besides many of us in the hobby are brand loyalists that will never change.
But something happened recently that is just too good not to share with everyone. At SJS in late September my 5 year old Rhino, serial number 60 with over 46 hours of flawless use and no service history flamed out on the takeoff roll. It had never been in for service frankly because it was produced before the lifetime warranty and I felt why mess with it at 25 hours if it was running fine. Well I decided it was time to let Eric take it back and let the factory rebuild it. To my total surprise what I received back was basically a brand new zero time turbine complete with kero-start and a new battery for a price that was very reasonable. Great job Jet Central and Eric!
Although I’m a long time user of Jet Central turbines I generally stay away from the threads arguing over which one is the best, who has the best service and which ones are better served to be flame throwers. It’s just way too political and besides many of us in the hobby are brand loyalists that will never change.
But something happened recently that is just too good not to share with everyone. At SJS in late September my 5 year old Rhino, serial number 60 with over 46 hours of flawless use and no service history flamed out on the takeoff roll. It had never been in for service frankly because it was produced before the lifetime warranty and I felt why mess with it at 25 hours if it was running fine. Well I decided it was time to let Eric take it back and let the factory rebuild it. To my total surprise what I received back was basically a brand new zero time turbine complete with kero-start and a new battery for a price that was very reasonable. Great job Jet Central and Eric!
Richard
