I know is more of the same BS, but, this coming week I'll be buying a
turbine for a PST Reaction, and wondering between a Jets Muntz VT 80, and
a Kingtech 80???????????????

Any recommendations?????????????

Thanks;

ENT

Recommendations???????????? Yes. Jet Cat P100RX.

I vote for KingTech. Barry is very active on this board, so you will get questions answered quick... and the price, and reliability of the K-80 is hard to beat.

Depends on what colour you want!

I have the VT80 and a P120 SX the JC does what it says on tin and the VT well not ran it yet it's still in Ali's bag plus a couple of Wrens 44 Gold and a 54, both been good no flame outs etc but 54 Mk III eats front bearings!

I have seen several flights with the VT and was impressed that's why I brought one. I think it's a good idea not to have all your eggs in one basket etc plus nice to see/use what other turbine manufacturers are building!

Alan

Hector:

Not the K-80, you know firsthand why...

????

Hector,

Have you checked who will service jet munts in the US? I ask because I would not want to imagine how much it would cost to ship anything to Spain. I just shipped my mom 10 minutes ago and it was $800!!

Kingtech have a pretty good reputation.

Why would you not consider the P100 or the Rabbit VT100? I personally love my coneja, it is a good product with excellent service. But I have to agree that since Jetcat came with the newer breed of smaller components, they too are tempting.

I know that cost is not an issue for you, so get the Rabbit from Mr Clapp, and if you do I want my comission in the form of Alión 2006.

Saludos Dr A!!

David

ENT
Go with the K-80. Not only is it a strong and reliable engine, if you do need service, Barry and Dirk are here in the U.S. for the service.

Here is a video of my F-86 with a K-80. This is the maiden 2 years ago. The engine has 12 hours on it and is running strong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YYboFxBOAA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9JOxK3KGpw

Joe Lewis
Kingtech
K-80 and K-140
Owner

Neither choice.

Either one will fly the plane and have good reputations for reliability but after 3 weeks of flying you will be bored with only 18-20 lbs of performance. I sold my PST Reaction after well over a hundred flights. Started with a Jet Central Falcon-22lbs thrust-and was in heaven being this was my first turbine. But I soon found it lacking in big loops and tall verticals. Updated to a Jet Central Eagle-30lbs thrust-and now had more than enough performance. I actually turned the Eagle down to 27 lbs and found that suited me just fine. Plus I actually was able to extend my flying time a little bit because i was cruising at part throttle at the same speed most of the flight that I had to stay WFO with the smaller turbine.

If I were to build another composite Reaction my choice would be a Jet Central Cheetah. 31Lbs of thrust. Turn it down to 26-28 lbs and get great performance and better fuel endurance than the smaller turbines would have

take care!

Mike

video is my Reaction with the Eagle turned down to 27LBs of thrust


[link]http://youtu.be/20e5iLjgb_8[/link]

Jets Munts VT80 or Merlin 100, both out class JC and that includes after sales service (in the UK anyway)!

I have two k80's, and are beautifull!

Read the Kingtech thread, it's not a bad turbine, he'll just be a lot happier with a Rabbit.

David, seems you've be getting into the world of wines lately,
after the trip to Argentina, I fell in love with Malbec's. Just try them.

Still undecided, even though any service would be easier up north
than to Europe.

ENT

Mike, you took the words right out of my mouth. I decided to get a PST Reaction X as a first jet. I labored long and hard over which engine. I did really like the P100, but learned that many Reaction ARF's were coming in at 24/26 lb's and I wanted 1:1 ration without running the turbine full tilt all the time or ever. So I ordered a Cheetah and will just turn it down a bit. Talked to some who have the K80 and said it takes a while to get off grass. I think 22lbs thrust is the least I would put in one. Better to have the power and not use it than never have enough. The Cheetah is not much bigger or heavier than the the P100, costs a bit more, but has the power to fly most jets that someone would fly after the Reaction.

I considered the P140RX but didnt want to pay for it. I almost did a K140, but decided to let weight make up my mind and the Cheetah is lighter. I have spoken to a fellow that has had both the K80 and then the k140. His view was that the flying and especially takeoffs were anemic with the K80 off grass. The K140 made the Reaction ARF into a different animal!

Dreamworks IS a US based service center for JetsMunt engines. We have been servicing and distributing JetsMunt engines for over 8 years.
Todd

Jet Central Cheetah
I had the long nose a Reaction ARF with a Super Eagle, I wouldn't have wanted anything smaller!

I have never owned a King-Tech but I do own a VT80 and a JetCat 100rx. Love them both. If they come out with a VT140 I will be first in line.

Since i am trying to decide on a turbine for my fiber classics euro fighter, with full inlet and tams bi pipe, what would anyone suggest, the K140 or 170. I have a super eagle but do not want to pull itfrom my hawk. Not going 3d, but do fly from grass. Both fuel tanks total 160 oz. Any suggestions?

I have a JetsMunt Merlin 140 for my C-ARF Eurosport Evolution (non 3D version)
Small, light and powerfull turbine.

I will be getting another Merlin 140 for my Y/A F-15 as soon as I can afford it.

Hi,

I am flying my generation Euro Sport with inlets and bifurcated pipe with a 28 pound AT-280. It takes about 300 feet of runway to take off, but it flies well. My throws might be too mild and my CG might be a little forward.

I fly a K-170 which replaced an AT-280 in my Boomerang XL2, it is a very nice engine and the K-170 really has a lot of thrust.

If the choice is a K-140 or K-170, go with the K-170. I know some guys flying the Euro with an AT-450 engine putting out over 40 pounds of thrust.

Good Luck,

John

Hector, check the one Osvaldo has with a Rabbit. That's the sweet spot for a everyday flier. Mine used to have a Super Eagle, way fast, but too heavy due to balancing requirements.
The Cheetah may be a better choice than the Rabitt, as you get the extra thrust fro limited weigh increase.

From Milton experience with the K-80, seems like a reliable engine, but the spool-up time will kill you in case of trouble. Not sure if his engine one a unique case, but I will stay away from it.