Phoenix Models BAE Hawk
#77
Thanks for the info. Didn't even realize the only plase the servo dimensions are listed is on the front page... I ordered some of these. Hope they are good! Just going to have to buy another plane to use the other standard servos on... shucks.
#79
HOWEVER: I have about 80% of available right trim in the ailerons do to some mis-alignment of the control surfaces pre-drilled holes.
I'd take a look at your CG. It sounds as if you are nose heavy (VERY easy to do in this plane!)
Greg
#80
I balanced mine per the provided gig, and I am dead on - no trim required.
HOWEVER: I have about 80% of available right trim in the ailerons do to some mis-alignment of the control surfaces pre-drilled holes.
I'd take a look at your CG. It sounds as if you are nose heavy (VERY easy to do in this plane!)
Greg
HOWEVER: I have about 80% of available right trim in the ailerons do to some mis-alignment of the control surfaces pre-drilled holes.
I'd take a look at your CG. It sounds as if you are nose heavy (VERY easy to do in this plane!)
Greg
#81
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I balance mine with the jig as well on my first one I had. Second one I used the zykoy CG machine both fly fine if it's a little pitchy on elevator on landing how much expo do you have on your elevator mine was a little pitchy and I had 25% expo a reduced it down to 10% and that took care of the pitchiness remember the hawk likes to land a little flatter than other Jets
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rjbob (04-14-2024)
#84
I'll try some different expo settings when it's back in to air.
Mine is grounded right now do to damaged landing gear. I want to get it in the air again. Not sure I want to stay with the original landing gear. What is everyone else useing for gear??
Mine is grounded right now do to damaged landing gear. I want to get it in the air again. Not sure I want to stay with the original landing gear. What is everyone else useing for gear??
#85
I'm switching mine over to the JP Hobbies set they make for the Phoenix Hawk.
Greg
#86
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I have the original gear in mine. I have heard that people are putting in the JP Hobby gear. I have been told it it's not a drop in. Some cutting is required. Also if it is a motor for the gear you need, Phoenix models does carry replacement motors. I had one strip the gears, my fault, and put a new motor in. Had to cut the worm drive down about 1/2 inch.
#87
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Craig I see your in Indiana, I'm in Ohio and fly at the Nighthawks Rc club
Your about 3.5 hours away if you want to make a day trip and come over to fly with me. Your welcome to. https://www.nighthawksrc.com/
Your about 3.5 hours away if you want to make a day trip and come over to fly with me. Your welcome to. https://www.nighthawksrc.com/
#88
I found the Phoenix hawk retracts on JP Hobby website. If I ordered them they would be on backorder. Really don't want to do that. Is there any other place that would have them or would you know of any other set that would work.
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rjbob (04-14-2024)
#91
Maybe I wasn't real clear. I know I can get the original retracts. What I want is the JP retracts for the Phoenix hawk.
#92
The same issue with me...... With the Phoenix retracts it is a direct take from Keith Shaw (one of the God's of electrics): Buy it right, or buy it twice ......
My bent frames will attest to that statement
Greg
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The JP gear for the 1.75M Phoenix Hawk is not a drop-in replacement for the retracts that are shipped with the new version 2 of the Hawk. The JP gear will require modification of the existing bolt holes for the main gear and the nose gear. The longitudinal spacing of the bolt holes on the JP gear are closer to each other. The nose gear bolts through an aluminum plate, so it will require more than just filling the hole with a dowel rod and re-drilling. The nose gear will require slotting the mounting flanges of the retract. Finally, The knuckle for the main gear trailing links are not exactly in the same location either, so the plastic tubs will require some cutting to have the gear fit without binding.
The JP gear uses the JP ER120 retract mechanism which is lighter and has a 3mm worm drive driving a 3mm drive pin and a narrower aluminum trunnion. The equivalent JP drop in replacement for the Phoenix retract motor is the ER160 motor. The ER160 has a 4mm worm drive that uses a more substantial drive pin and trunnion.
The Phoenix electric brakes are terrible. The JP replacements however require modification (narrowing) of the strut frame to mount them to the Phoenix struts since the Phoenix strut frame is wider. The new LD technology units sold by Castle RC are JP equivalents that use a collar to retain the magnetic hub and fit the Phoenix strut without any mods.
Tony M.
The JP gear uses the JP ER120 retract mechanism which is lighter and has a 3mm worm drive driving a 3mm drive pin and a narrower aluminum trunnion. The equivalent JP drop in replacement for the Phoenix retract motor is the ER160 motor. The ER160 has a 4mm worm drive that uses a more substantial drive pin and trunnion.
The Phoenix electric brakes are terrible. The JP replacements however require modification (narrowing) of the strut frame to mount them to the Phoenix struts since the Phoenix strut frame is wider. The new LD technology units sold by Castle RC are JP equivalents that use a collar to retain the magnetic hub and fit the Phoenix strut without any mods.
Tony M.
#95
Has anybody had an issue with the brakes being a bit weak? Mine seem to be on or off, and when on are a bit stiff to turn but not near a locked wheel.
Secondly, any ideas what the "ABS" function does on the brake/landing gear box?
Thanks!
Secondly, any ideas what the "ABS" function does on the brake/landing gear box?
Thanks!