Sky Master F-18 First flight
12-23-2003 | 02:42 PM
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Ali, are they sold in Europe somewhere, or did you get it from the US ?
Customs and shipping fees, realy take a bite at the price when stuff comes from "over there"
SJ.
Customs and shipping fees, realy take a bite at the price when stuff comes from "over there"
SJ.
12-23-2003 | 03:58 PM
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RE: Sky Master F-18 First flight
Steve, give Tam a call for F-18 prices or email him - http://www.tamjets.com
12-23-2003 | 04:05 PM
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Ali,
Can I use some of your photos for my website?
Tam
Can I use some of your photos for my website?
Tam
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I would just like to post a few pics taken last Wedensday at the Abingdon 100 years of flight meeting of my skymaster F-18
Firstly can I say that this has to be the best organized and smoothest running jet meet I have attended. A big thanks goes to Dick Spredbury and his team for putting the massive effort into laying on an event like this for all us jet modelers in the UK.
This F-18 is a very early preproduction version of the Skymaster F-18 powered by a Jet Cat P-160. The model is complete with flaps and ailerons as well as the odd missile or two. The All up weight weight with the ordinance was close to 30lbs but this model flew like one that weighed half that.
First flight was eventful due to a very rearward CG (Thats what you get when you build a model in 3 days for a jet event) but still went well.
Second flight with 500g of lead in the nose proved to be a lot better. Model tracked really well and had bags of power with the 160. High Alpha low fly bys and then open the throttle and away she goes. Superb.
Rock steady all the way and super smooth throughout , I cant believe performance and looks like this come ARTF. Anyway looks like it will be quite some time before I can get round to flying the 18 again as the British weather is starting to set in. I think it might be a good opportunity to add some paint
Thanks also go out to all those at skymaster for a superb product that allows people like me to fly beautiful jets such as these without the building
I would just like to post a few pics taken last Wedensday at the Abingdon 100 years of flight meeting of my skymaster F-18
Firstly can I say that this has to be the best organized and smoothest running jet meet I have attended. A big thanks goes to Dick Spredbury and his team for putting the massive effort into laying on an event like this for all us jet modelers in the UK.
This F-18 is a very early preproduction version of the Skymaster F-18 powered by a Jet Cat P-160. The model is complete with flaps and ailerons as well as the odd missile or two. The All up weight weight with the ordinance was close to 30lbs but this model flew like one that weighed half that.
First flight was eventful due to a very rearward CG (Thats what you get when you build a model in 3 days for a jet event) but still went well.
Second flight with 500g of lead in the nose proved to be a lot better. Model tracked really well and had bags of power with the 160. High Alpha low fly bys and then open the throttle and away she goes. Superb.
Rock steady all the way and super smooth throughout , I cant believe performance and looks like this come ARTF. Anyway looks like it will be quite some time before I can get round to flying the 18 again as the British weather is starting to set in. I think it might be a good opportunity to add some paint
Thanks also go out to all those at skymaster for a superb product that allows people like me to fly beautiful jets such as these without the building
12-23-2003 | 05:18 PM
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Florent,
I never balance my stabs. Using high torge digital servos take care all the problem. The stabs only put load on the servos when it on the ground. Inflight it pretty much balance itself.
Remember balance the stabs need add alot of nose weight. The plane can weight 2-3lbs heavier if balance the stabs.
I never had any problem with my F-15 and my other full elevator stabs.
This stabs balance issue has beed mention so many time. But haven't heard anybody mention either unbalance or balance stabs having problem.
Many Y/A twin F-18 successfully fly without balance the stabs.
I know some hate to see the stabs hanging down after turn off the RX or the digital giving the buzz sound.
But for me I don't mind. 3 pound is make a big different inflight.
So there is a choice to make here. My personal experience shoot for lighter weight.
Brg,
Tam
I never balance my stabs. Using high torge digital servos take care all the problem. The stabs only put load on the servos when it on the ground. Inflight it pretty much balance itself.
Remember balance the stabs need add alot of nose weight. The plane can weight 2-3lbs heavier if balance the stabs.
I never had any problem with my F-15 and my other full elevator stabs.
This stabs balance issue has beed mention so many time. But haven't heard anybody mention either unbalance or balance stabs having problem.
Many Y/A twin F-18 successfully fly without balance the stabs.
I know some hate to see the stabs hanging down after turn off the RX or the digital giving the buzz sound.
But for me I don't mind. 3 pound is make a big different inflight.
So there is a choice to make here. My personal experience shoot for lighter weight.
Brg,
Tam
ORIGINAL: Rider-60
Ali,
Did you have to balance the stab or is it already done at the factory?
Florent
Ali,
Did you have to balance the stab or is it already done at the factory?
Florent
12-23-2003 | 05:37 PM
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Hi-
Take a look at the Skymaster website - http://www.skymasterjet.com/
You will find us there under Dealers.
Best rgds
Richard Blindheim
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http://www.rc-flight.com
Take a look at the Skymaster website - http://www.skymasterjet.com/
You will find us there under Dealers.
Best rgds
Richard Blindheim
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12-24-2003 | 04:51 AM
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Tam. Of course you can use any of my photos. If you need any more please let me know and I will take some for you. I can also email them to you direct if you want
SJ. For skymaster from the Uk try www.alshobbies.com
Rider 60. I have a Skymaster F-15 that I flew for 20 flights with no balance on the stabs. I thought I would try to balance them to see the difference. The only difference i found was the model was a lot more tail heavy. This was because for some reason I forgot to add nose weight to counterbalance the lead in the stabs. When I do another one I will not bother balancing the stabs. As Tam said all the flying stab models I have are equipped with high torque servos and I never have any problems
SJ. For skymaster from the Uk try www.alshobbies.com
Rider 60. I have a Skymaster F-15 that I flew for 20 flights with no balance on the stabs. I thought I would try to balance them to see the difference. The only difference i found was the model was a lot more tail heavy. This was because for some reason I forgot to add nose weight to counterbalance the lead in the stabs. When I do another one I will not bother balancing the stabs. As Tam said all the flying stab models I have are equipped with high torque servos and I never have any problems
12-24-2003 | 11:33 AM
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Hi Ali:
Jane and I are planning FJ 2004.....we do hope you will be returning this year.....you would be welcome to put on one of your world-class demos with any of my planes.....should have my KC and Bandit along for sure.....
Regards and Best of the Holiday Season...TAJA
Jane and I are planning FJ 2004.....we do hope you will be returning this year.....you would be welcome to put on one of your world-class demos with any of my planes.....should have my KC and Bandit along for sure.....
Regards and Best of the Holiday Season...TAJA
12-26-2003 | 04:18 AM
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Hi Ali &Tam,
I am just on the way to factory to do final inspection.
Antorn just first test fly his new F-18. It was as good as usually
I think you will receive the product birds soon !
I am just on the way to factory to do final inspection.
Antorn just first test fly his new F-18. It was as good as usually
I think you will receive the product birds soon !
12-26-2003 | 01:47 PM
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Ali
First let me say that your F 18 looks great and I am glad you are getting the performance with the 160.
Can you tell me what your aircraft weights dry?
I have the Yellow F 18 painted in Blue Angel # 5. I was waiting to order the Skymaster when I heard about this Yellow Deal.
Best of Luck
Bring it to Florida Jets!!!
First let me say that your F 18 looks great and I am glad you are getting the performance with the 160.
Can you tell me what your aircraft weights dry?
I have the Yellow F 18 painted in Blue Angel # 5. I was waiting to order the Skymaster when I heard about this Yellow Deal.
Best of Luck
Bring it to Florida Jets!!!
12-26-2003 | 02:08 PM
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Ali,
That is one nice looking bird. Can you please tell me what the landing speed is like with it. I have watched the video's of the two prototypes fly and they seem to land really fast. I fly off of a 500' paved runway and wonder would that be enough to get the plane down and stopped? I also have to agree with you that the plane is the perfect size.
Thanks,
Patrick.
That is one nice looking bird. Can you please tell me what the landing speed is like with it. I have watched the video's of the two prototypes fly and they seem to land really fast. I fly off of a 500' paved runway and wonder would that be enough to get the plane down and stopped? I also have to agree with you that the plane is the perfect size.
Thanks,
Patrick.
12-27-2003 | 05:48 AM
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Y2kVette: My F-15 has been flown with a 18lbs thrust AMT Mercury Then a P-120 and now a P-160. All of them flew this plane really well. The Mercury was down on power but had amazing response. The P-160 is just insane and throttle management is essential but sooooooooo much fun. I think the 120 is the perfect choice for most people.
Tom Great news I look forward to seeing you and Jane there this year. Thank you very much for your kind offer to fly one of your models. I flew a Kingcat a few weeks ago and was very impressed. A bit nose heavy for me but still good fun.
Tam Give me few days for these pics I will see what I can do.
Flyjets.
My F-18 weighs in the region of 28-30lbs. Lovely looking Yellow F-18 by the way, I hope you enjoy it.
Sirrom, Don't worry about landing speed.
I have only flown my F-18 twice. On the second flight I used flaps for landing. The ones you have seen on the video are very early prototypes. These if I am not mistaken were flown without any flap at all.
Mine had flaps from the offset and with half flap I managed to land the 18 and stop in less than 150ft. In the same flight I did some very slow high alpha passes with no headwind. The model was rock steady with no wing rock or drop whatsoever.
I have some video of the 18 in flight on cd but have no idea how to show you guys it. Sorry (Computer illiterate)
Hope you guys all have a happy new year
Regards Al
Tom Great news I look forward to seeing you and Jane there this year. Thank you very much for your kind offer to fly one of your models. I flew a Kingcat a few weeks ago and was very impressed. A bit nose heavy for me but still good fun.
Tam Give me few days for these pics I will see what I can do.
Flyjets.
My F-18 weighs in the region of 28-30lbs. Lovely looking Yellow F-18 by the way, I hope you enjoy it.
Sirrom, Don't worry about landing speed.
I have only flown my F-18 twice. On the second flight I used flaps for landing. The ones you have seen on the video are very early prototypes. These if I am not mistaken were flown without any flap at all.
Mine had flaps from the offset and with half flap I managed to land the 18 and stop in less than 150ft. In the same flight I did some very slow high alpha passes with no headwind. The model was rock steady with no wing rock or drop whatsoever.
I have some video of the 18 in flight on cd but have no idea how to show you guys it. Sorry (Computer illiterate)
Hope you guys all have a happy new year
Regards Al
12-29-2003 | 06:13 PM
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Florent
From experience with my little Y/A F-18.
Flaps and ailerons does help this plane fly much better.
On take off. I use 15 degree flaps. This prevent the plane balloon on take off.
Landing using 25 degree. It slow down very well with flaps.
I think Skymater F-18 is pretty much the same.
From experience with my little Y/A F-18.
Flaps and ailerons does help this plane fly much better.
On take off. I use 15 degree flaps. This prevent the plane balloon on take off.
Landing using 25 degree. It slow down very well with flaps.
I think Skymater F-18 is pretty much the same.
ORIGINAL: Rider-60
Tam , thanks for the info about balancing, I know it is a BIG subject!
Ali,
Did you find that using flaps is necessary on this plane.
Skymaster sells both with or without, what is your advice?
thanks
Florent
Tam , thanks for the info about balancing, I know it is a BIG subject!
Ali,
Did you find that using flaps is necessary on this plane.
Skymaster sells both with or without, what is your advice?
thanks
Florent
12-29-2003 | 06:22 PM
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Eric,
Is my kit ready to ship?
I can't wait to get my. I consider that is for my late christmas.
Tam
Is my kit ready to ship?
I can't wait to get my. I consider that is for my late christmas.
Tam
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Hi Ali &Tam,
I am just on the way to factory to do final inspection.
Antorn just first test fly his new F-18. It was as good as usually
I think you will receive the product birds soon !
Hi Ali &Tam,
I am just on the way to factory to do final inspection.
Antorn just first test fly his new F-18. It was as good as usually
I think you will receive the product birds soon !
12-29-2003 | 07:47 PM
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Hello, Tam
I will go to factory for QC all ARF F-18 this week, I think that I will send the all gray color one to you on next week,
Anton Lin / Skymaster RC Jet Models
http://www.skymasterjet.com/
I will go to factory for QC all ARF F-18 this week, I think that I will send the all gray color one to you on next week,
Anton Lin / Skymaster RC Jet Models
http://www.skymasterjet.com/
12-30-2003 | 12:22 AM
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Thanks,
Anton
Anton
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Hello, Tam
I will go to factory for QC all ARF F-18 this week, I think that I will send the all gray color one to you on next week,
Anton Lin / Skymaster RC Jet Models
http://www.skymasterjet.com/
Hello, Tam
I will go to factory for QC all ARF F-18 this week, I think that I will send the all gray color one to you on next week,
Anton Lin / Skymaster RC Jet Models
http://www.skymasterjet.com/
12-30-2003 | 02:22 AM
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Eric,
Is my kit ready to ship?
I can't wait to get my. I consider that is for my late christmas.
Tam
Eric,
Is my kit ready to ship?
I can't wait to get my. I consider that is for my late christmas.
Tam
Anton and I had a lot of fun to test fly him F-18 in Taiwan. Very powerful with P-160. (our bird is P-120). We will go to fly more tomorrow in his field which has over 2000 ft runway! Very nice place to fly.
Anton will air ship your F-18 next week. You will love your late xmas gift.
We are going to factory and do final inspection before packing and ship out the whole container F-18s.
12-31-2003 | 09:25 AM
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KFalcon.
I have not had time to match the model against a decent 3 view but I can say that that wings look to be in scale. There was one slight problem with the canopy frame being too thick but I have spoken to the factory about this and they have already fixed this. Also I though my oleo did not crank back enough for scale look so the latest legs have been machined to allow more movement. Little things they are but skymaster seem very keen to get these right before they release the model.
Rider 60
Tams advice is spot on. I am sure this model is fine without flaps but this option makes it so much more manageable. With the extra drag landing distances are a lot easier to judge. I would go for aileron and flap every time on the F-18
I have not had time to match the model against a decent 3 view but I can say that that wings look to be in scale. There was one slight problem with the canopy frame being too thick but I have spoken to the factory about this and they have already fixed this. Also I though my oleo did not crank back enough for scale look so the latest legs have been machined to allow more movement. Little things they are but skymaster seem very keen to get these right before they release the model.
Rider 60
Tams advice is spot on. I am sure this model is fine without flaps but this option makes it so much more manageable. With the extra drag landing distances are a lot easier to judge. I would go for aileron and flap every time on the F-18
