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Old 04-26-2005 | 09:51 PM
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Or hangar rash?
This damn raven decided it wanted to build a nest in the rafters of my hangar. Not the first time that has happened. I was chasing him out the door with a broom when he knocked my Berkeley T-33, as yet unflown, off the shelf. Onto the concrete. Ouch. It's bad. I did not even have the heart to pick up the wreckage and look at it yet, it's too depressing. I grabbed a rifle and was about to blow that bird away, but then I realized that I would shoot a hole in the hangar roof or door, not a good idea when it rains. Keep away from guns when you are angry, is all I can say.
I opened up the hangar door all the way and just waited for the raven to leave, then cleaned up the nest he was building. Raven 1, Berkeley Kamdax T-33 zero.
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Dude thats sad.. i woulda gone spastic at the bird lol.. feel sorry for ya buddy, but if it comes back call me and ill fly over from Aus and fix that little birdy up for ya.. better still wipe away the tears and bite the bullet.. rebuild the T-33, then catch the birdy and strap him to the fuse.. then see who's laughing after that!
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Dude thats sad.. i woulda gone spastic at the bird lol.. feel sorry for ya buddy, but if it comes back call me and ill fly over from Aus and fix that little birdy up for ya.. better still wipe away the tears and bite the bullet.. rebuild the T-33, then catch the birdy and strap him to the fuse.. then see who's laughing after that!
Can you deal with hornets, too? I had it out with some of them in the fall, with a can of spray and some quick footwork...I ended up with 24 aerial victories and 50+ on the ground, but I guess I did not exterminate them completely, as I am seeing some again.
Also...in such a situation...buy TWO cans of that hornet killer spray. You do NOT want to run out of ammo with the job half done. Because, at that point, they are angry, as...well...angry as hornets. I actually had to jump into my car, roll up the windows, and retreat to the hardware store for more spray.
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Man, sorry to hear about that! Hope you will rebuild the plane, looks like it would be a hoot at the field!

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I grabbed a rifle and was about to blow that bird away, but then I realized that I would shoot a hole in the hangar roof or door, not a good idea when it rains. Keep away from guns when you are angry, is all I can say.

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When I lived on a farm as a kid, the old farmers use to say that it was OK to shoot a bird under a tin roof because the bullet or shot would make a hole with the edges neatly turned up and no water would ever come in. Must of worked because our barn roof was full of holes before we ever moved in and it didn't leak.

I'd have plugged that damn bird - but your hanger mates in the next stall may not have appreciated it...

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I hear raven tastes a lot like chicken....

Seriously, bummer. Hope the repair(?) goes well.
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Oooooo that looks fatal........

To get rid of hornets, put some heavily sugared water somewhere safe - lots of it...they will eat so much and be so groggy that they can hardly fly...you can knock them out of the air with a spray bottle filled with water and detergent, ( a lot less toxic than killer spray...don't forget, you are breathing the stuff too!) Then sweep up the bodies and put them in a plastic pail with a tight fitting lid, and leave...nature will do the rest. I used to work in a food plant that used a lot of sugar, and we had hords or the critters every summer, and I needed something to keep me entertained during those long afternoon shifts...... killed a lot of hornets that summer.......
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ET, get some birdshot for your pistol, those dont go through roofs
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ORIGINAL: EASYTIGER

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I grabbed a rifle and was about to blow that bird away, but then I realized that I would shoot a hole in the hangar roof or door, not a good idea when it rains. Keep away from guns when you are angry, is all I can say.

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When I lived on a farm as a kid, the old farmers use to say that it was OK to shoot a bird under a tin roof because the bullet or shot would make a hole with the edges neatly turned up and no water would ever come in. Must of worked because our barn roof was full of holes before we ever moved in and it didn't leak.

I'd have plugged that damn bird - but your hanger mates in the next stall may not have appreciated it...

Bob
That's news to me! You learn something new every day!
The problem is, yeah, neighbors...the guy next to me has a Westland Scout helicopter and a Tiger Moth in there, I like to stay friendly with him, not only because I like Tiger Moth rides, but also because he has some sealed olive drab cases in a corner of the hangar marked "South African Air Force" that look suspiciously like rocket pods. Nice guy, but I would not want to hole his hangar wall. That, and I might lose my security deposit on the hangar...
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ET, get some birdshot for your pistol, those dont go through roofs
But they will richochet around inside the hangar and cause my model fleet no small amount of damage...
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Oooooo that looks fatal........

To get rid of hornets, put some heavily sugared water somewhere safe - lots of it...they will eat so much and be so groggy that they can hardly fly...you can knock them out of the air with a spray bottle filled with water and detergent, ( a lot less toxic than killer spray...don't forget, you are breathing the stuff too!) Then sweep up the bodies and put them in a plastic pail with a tight fitting lid, and leave...nature will do the rest. I used to work in a food plant that used a lot of sugar, and we had hords or the critters every summer, and I needed something to keep me entertained during those long afternoon shifts...... killed a lot of hornets that summer.......
That sounds suspiciously like WORK...I dunno...
Hey, did you know that you can put that top from the aerosol can of hornet spray onto a can of shaving cream and get it to shoot 25 feet? Just something to file away, just in case...
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Nony,
Got any tips for earwigs and ladybugs! LOL!
Sorry to hear about you plane man, that sucks! My old trusty Byro Blaster Enforcer fell of it's hangar on the ceiling one day and smashed the %$#@ out of the engine pod and one wing tip. Still not sure how it managed to slip off it's hanger! Doh!
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Dude thats sad.. i woulda gone spastic at the bird lol.. feel sorry for ya buddy, but if it comes back call me and ill fly over from Aus and fix that little birdy up for ya.. better still wipe away the tears and bite the bullet.. rebuild the T-33, then catch the birdy and strap him to the fuse.. then see who's laughing after that!
Can you deal with hornets, too? I had it out with some of them in the fall, with a can of spray and some quick footwork...I ended up with 24 aerial victories and 50+ on the ground, but I guess I did not exterminate them completely, as I am seeing some again.
Also...in such a situation...buy TWO cans of that hornet killer spray. You do NOT want to run out of ammo with the job half done. Because, at that point, they are angry, as...well...angry as hornets. I actually had to jump into my car, roll up the windows, and retreat to the hardware store for more spray.

Buddy i can take care of anything ... as for the raven.. a piece of bread with an asprin/codeine tablet will sort that one out.. i can assure you he wont come back again.. and if his mates see what happens to him then neither will they. The funniest bit is, they just screw ya model, so they think they are 1 up already, then you keep calm and collected, and offer a piece of bread of which he has no idea of whats in it, and thinks he is going 2 up and that your a total dumbass.. yet when he flies off after the quick snack thinking his had a great day... well i think you can guess what happens next.

As for the hornets.. we don't have hornets in Australia, but we do have wasps and bee's which i guess are similar, although not as big, but they are easily fixable too Ever found a flie/hornet/wasp wing before? If you have its made of like a stupidly thin plastic.. which of course melts and very quickly.. so if you want to shoot them down nice and quick before giving them a final blow from the foot on the ground.. grab yaself a can of deoderant or WD-40 and a lighter.. spark the lighter, spray the can over the flame (keep ya face away lol) and spray the **** outa of the suckers and watch their wings melt and drop instanly Good thing is you can see the flame, and ultimately your area of attack, not to mention that the heat around the flame is also still hot enough to melt their wings... before you ask.. yes we get annoyed of flies in summer, it keeps me amused while having a few around the pool lol

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...he's got flamable models in there too (and probably fuel...)....

Myles...nope..just hornets...

I still think my method is the best...no risk of colateral damage.....
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Hey Easy.. get a cat installed ... a big cat....a big fast cat....a Jet cat

Thats not the jet Joe test stand on the left in the first picture is it...
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OMG ET!! It looks like the chicken (sorry raven) has come home to roost. (lol)
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Sorry about your jet. What a drag.

I would loose sleep over that one!


Hey, I'm curious. What type of aircraft do you have?
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Hey Easy.. get a cat installed ... a big cat....a big fast cat....a Jet cat

Thats not the jet Joe test stand on the left in the first picture is it...
What's a Jetcat? Never heard of that. Is that some sort of new engine? Strange name. Now, JetJOE, that's a name. The folks down in the Marketing Department outdid themselves on that one.

I don't have an aircraft, I just have two hangars at an airport. I share one hangar with a Jodel four-place, and the other is filled up solely with cars and bikes and models and junk. What better place to fool around than an airport? Jet-A, all you can eat, and you can make smoke and noise, all sorts of boy-toy stuff around all the time, you can go fast and nobody is around to complain.
Here's my neighbor's helo...he has to of them...this one, he is ferrying down to Panama on Friday, it is going to a construction company down there. I helped him fit the aux tank sitting behind the seats there today, I got the dregs of Jet-A from the tank, which he bought from a Rumanian guy who swore it was unused, but...it was used. The Countach belongs to my other neighbor, it needs a head gasket. Takes guts to pull the engine out of a Countach, but he will do it. He needed help pushing it back into the hangar today, he asked if I wanted to sit in it...no thanks...sitting in a non-working Countach is like taking a supermodel to church. Too frustrating. He did let me drive his Lotus Esprit, though...
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OMG ET!! It looks like the chicken (sorry raven) has come home to roost. (lol)
Yo, Ben!

That's not the Jetjoe test stand, that's a prop engine stand called the "Larry's Last Stand", the best engine test bench ever made, one of the best things I have ever bought in this hobby. If you ever see one, grab it.
Here is the Jetjoe one:
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There is nothing like a neat , orderly test stand! And that is nothing like a neat orderly........ I hope you model installations don't look like that !!!

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Mr Bigwords

Absolutely " sans parallelle " but has it flown yet ?

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ET

There is nothing like a neat , orderly test stand! And that is nothing like a neat orderly........ I hope you model installations don't look like that !!!

John
No, my installations look nothing like that. I, of course, arrange all components in alphebetical order.

Actually, on that JJ bench, I had everything neat as a pin some months ago, then ripped it all out when I sent the engine back to China(which was stupid, no good reason to send it back, except I was getting all annoyed at the whole Jetjoe debate) and just the other day, I slapped the thing back onto the bench and had it running in fifteen minutes, including fueling. Next time I run it, I will neaten up the installation, as there is nothing less fun than a fuel line popping off of leaking while a turbine is running. I need to order up more festos and tubing, as I was fitting out two aircraft and used almost everything up.
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Very nice. I like the way you LABELED everything, just in case you forget which part is the "fuel pump" and which part is the "battery". Good thinking! BUT...I think, if you run down towards the bottom of your Wren Factory Approved checklist, you will find that you have forgotten one piece, the spinny bit that takes air in the front and mixes it with kerosene("paraffin") and spits it out the back...what do they call that piece, oh, yeah...the "turbine". Suggest you write to Wren and tell them they left a part out of your package.


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