automatic extinguishing device for jets
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automatic extinguishing device for jets
Hi Guys
we are currently testing a new device.(not for sale yet)
it is not hazardous or agressive against electronics or anything else
we can activate them by using eather: electronic ignition (immidiatly) / Thermocord 172 C/ the device itself (300 C)
the tests are looking good and this seems to be a winner to handle fires we cant get to easely.
the install weight will be no more then 100 grams.
it is chemical based ,and this is the principle:
When activated, the Extinguishers sets off a reaction whereby the aerosol binds the free radicals released during combustion.
The aerosol released from the Fire Extinguishers combats and extinguishes fire not by using the suffocation (depletion of oxygen) or cooling methods, but by stopping the reaction of combustion at molecular level (by binding free radicals) without depleting the oxygen content.
The aerosol comprises micro-sized particles suspended in inert gas in an extremely high ratio between the exposed surface and reaction mass (therefore reducing the quantity of active material necessary for the extinguishing action). Particles of such minute dimensions remain in suspension for a relatively long time, allowing them to flow into the natural convection currents present in combustion. This increases the efficiency of the extinguishing agent.
Activation mode/s: Thermally / activated thermocord
Weight 96 gram
Operation (discharge) time: 3-6 seconden
Discharge outlets: 2
Discharge length: 0,5 m
Dimensions: 140 mm x 55 mm x 18 mm
(basic qty/m3): 30 gram
Self activation temp. of fire extinguishing material: 300° Celsius
Activation with Thermocord: 172° Celsius
we are currently testing a new device.(not for sale yet)
it is not hazardous or agressive against electronics or anything else
we can activate them by using eather: electronic ignition (immidiatly) / Thermocord 172 C/ the device itself (300 C)
the tests are looking good and this seems to be a winner to handle fires we cant get to easely.
the install weight will be no more then 100 grams.
it is chemical based ,and this is the principle:
When activated, the Extinguishers sets off a reaction whereby the aerosol binds the free radicals released during combustion.
The aerosol released from the Fire Extinguishers combats and extinguishes fire not by using the suffocation (depletion of oxygen) or cooling methods, but by stopping the reaction of combustion at molecular level (by binding free radicals) without depleting the oxygen content.
The aerosol comprises micro-sized particles suspended in inert gas in an extremely high ratio between the exposed surface and reaction mass (therefore reducing the quantity of active material necessary for the extinguishing action). Particles of such minute dimensions remain in suspension for a relatively long time, allowing them to flow into the natural convection currents present in combustion. This increases the efficiency of the extinguishing agent.
Activation mode/s: Thermally / activated thermocord
Weight 96 gram
Operation (discharge) time: 3-6 seconden
Discharge outlets: 2
Discharge length: 0,5 m
Dimensions: 140 mm x 55 mm x 18 mm
(basic qty/m3): 30 gram
Self activation temp. of fire extinguishing material: 300° Celsius
Activation with Thermocord: 172° Celsius
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RE: automatic extinguishing device for jets
ORIGINAL: ravill
Excellent idea!
Post a vid with it extinguishing a Li-po fire!
Raf
Excellent idea!
Post a vid with it extinguishing a Li-po fire!
Raf
some guy once ripped me off by selling me a eurosport on ebay repaired weights a ton.
the fuselage has the same weight as another one including the wings.
so if we will light up something it will be the eurosport........
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RE: automatic extinguishing device for jets
Only one huge problem, what if there is a impact that scatters the plane, and the device is from the hot point. Almost always when there is a impact that usually slings things get spread out from the impact zone. BVM was working on a retarder pack for the early bobcats where on impact it would explode all over the place to kill a potential fire but that ended up not going anywhere, due to the substance he was using, was to corrosive to the turbine.
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Only one huge problem, what if there is a impact that scatters the plane, and the device is from the hot point. Almost always when there is a impact that usually slings things get spread out from the impact zone. BVM was working on a retarder pack for the early bobcats where on impact it would explode all over the place to kill a potential fire but that ended up not going anywhere, due to the substance he was using, was to corrosive to the turbine.
Only one huge problem, what if there is a impact that scatters the plane, and the device is from the hot point. Almost always when there is a impact that usually slings things get spread out from the impact zone. BVM was working on a retarder pack for the early bobcats where on impact it would explode all over the place to kill a potential fire but that ended up not going anywhere, due to the substance he was using, was to corrosive to the turbine.
now if you could save yours for less then 100 usd , this a would be a good item right?
and mostly if the parts are so scattered over the place then i dont think it actualy matters anymore , everything is lost anyway..
my goal is to this great invention called Kerostart......
we will see some guys running....
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RE: automatic extinguishing device for jets
Well here in the states I believe you are to have a fire extinguisher at your start area so this would eliminate that problem. I always have my extinguisher in the inlet ready for a squeeze if there is a fire. So this is not a real issue for me. its always good to think about safty first any ways, so you keep up the good work.
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Well here in the states I believe you are to have a fire extinguisher at your start area so this would eliminate that problem. I always have my extinguisher in the inlet ready for a squeeze if there is a fire. So this is not a real issue for me. its always good to think about safty first any ways, so you keep up the good work.
Well here in the states I believe you are to have a fire extinguisher at your start area so this would eliminate that problem. I always have my extinguisher in the inlet ready for a squeeze if there is a fire. So this is not a real issue for me. its always good to think about safty first any ways, so you keep up the good work.
now start her up taxi down the runway , slam it open woarrrrrrrrrr.
flames.. i can show you lots of pics showing this..
one time a guy carried the model to the otherside of the field , throttle up flame out fire..........
and now you have someone run with a 20 pound tool a few hundred yards....
i mean for the 100 grams it weights i dont think it can hurt..
but then i need to test this first.
since i now the device also generates 200 C when activated for 9 seconds at 10cm away.
so if not carefull there goes the paintjob.
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RE: automatic extinguishing device for jets
100 grams is very light, I would like to see a test it in a Euro Sport that would be a true test as for it is a big plane. Get some video of your tests that would make a great selling point.
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RE: automatic extinguishing device for jets
A CO2 onboard fire supression unit was developed several years ago by Todd Walters. Was a neat little device that could be triggered by your radio to extinguish onboard fires/hot starts. He spent alot of time and development on this unit but jet consumer interest was minimal and the idea was never put into real production.
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to expensive..
some guy once ripped me off by selling me a eurosport on ebay repaired weights a ton.
ORIGINAL: ravill
Excellent idea!
Post a vid with it extinguishing a Li-po fire!
Raf
Excellent idea!
Post a vid with it extinguishing a Li-po fire!
Raf
some guy once ripped me off by selling me a eurosport on ebay repaired weights a ton.
Tommy
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RE: automatic extinguishing device for jets
yes your right never none a jet set on fire on the runway waiting to take off is this a plug to make money i think so best regards jetman
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RE: automatic extinguishing device for jets
any one chargeing a lipo in a jet wants f*@Kin with a frosty mop, just take em out and charge them, trust me i know it cost me the entire contents off the kitchen and more regards jetman
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RE: automatic extinguishing device for jets
I think its a good idea but it will have to be fairly cheap, I would say more like $50 for me to buy one. I the servo operated CO2 was a good idea but doesnt help with radio failure.
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A CO2 onboard fire supression unit was developed several years ago by Todd Walters. Was a neat little device that could be triggered by your radio to extinguish onboard fires/hot starts. He spent alot of time and development on this unit but jet consumer interest was minimal and the idea was never put into real production.
A CO2 onboard fire supression unit was developed several years ago by Todd Walters. Was a neat little device that could be triggered by your radio to extinguish onboard fires/hot starts. He spent alot of time and development on this unit but jet consumer interest was minimal and the idea was never put into real production.
the device i am testing is a allready made tool and is bought off the shelf.
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RE: automatic extinguishing device for jets
ORIGINAL: jetmanjetman
yes your right never none a jet set on fire on the runway waiting to take off is this a plug to make money i think so best regards jetman
yes your right never none a jet set on fire on the runway waiting to take off is this a plug to make money i think so best regards jetman
thansk for you answers .
first of all this is not about making money , anyone can buy this tool.
i am not trying to sell you a item i am just TESTING it.
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ORIGINAL: ianober
the servo operated CO2 was a good idea but doesnt help with radio failure.
the servo operated CO2 was a good idea but doesnt help with radio failure.