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Old 12-23-2017, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by smoknrv4
Dan what did you use for a heat shield material on the underside of the fuse aft of the turbine?
Hi.
I used the stainless steel plate.
I did not have enough stainless steel sheets and I also used a piece of aluminum sheet to the tail.
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How do you folks generally finish your Turbinators? I´m building an all wood version of the Turbinator and I haven’t decided if I´m going to cover it with glass, epoxy and paint or if I´m going to cover it with Oracover. Do you usually build the long winged version or the shorter winged version?

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It's enough with Oracover.
It's useless to cover with glass fiber, it's extra weight.

I did with the longer wing.
It flies very well.

Merry Christmas !!!

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Originally Posted by DAN 73
It's enough with Oracover.
It's useless to cover with glass fiber, it's extra weight.

I did with the longer wing.
It flies very well.

Merry Christmas !!!
Thank´s Dan!
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Some work done on the hatch last night.
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Other picture. The cat was asking if she can ride the jet

CG related
One thing I noticed on the plans regarding CG is that it tells to measure it from bulkhead WJ2, when the wing is on and you measure the CG you most likely will be measuring at the wing leading edge where it meets the fuse which is about 1/2 inch back from WJ2 position.
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I will be covering mine with Ultracoat, my goal is to keep it as light as possible, painting adds weight, it is a better finish but makes an airplane heavier. For the wing I decided to add the extensions on the tips to reduce the wing loading, my thoughts are that I will also get more lift during the hot summer months when the trust of the turbine decreases because of the heat
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Originally Posted by CARS II
I will be covering mine with Ultracoat, my goal is to keep it as light as possible, painting adds weight, it is a better finish but makes an airplane heavier. For the wing I decided to add the extensions on the tips to reduce the wing loading, my thoughts are that I will also get more lift during the hot summer months when the trust of the turbine decreases because of the heat
Beautiful building, beautiful cat.

Happy Christmas, Carlos.
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Happy Holly days Dan!
She just jumped on the jet and looked at me like saying, well lets go

Thank you.
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some work done on the rudder today.
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:25 PM
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Right stab and elevator are done, continuing with the left side.
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Ok then, the stabs are done and glued together, I will glue them to the fuse tomorrow, I have done that before where the stabs are glued to the fuse before they are covered, it takes extra time to cover them but it is something I have done many times.

Since the garage is cold over night I have the stabs in the smallest room with the door closed, the heat is on, by tomorrow morning the epoxy will be completely dry.
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I gave the H stab a final touch here and there, it is now glued to the fuse, Im just waiting for the epoxy to dry, I used Six10 epoxy on the inside and 30 minutes epoxy on the outside, I was very surprised when it came time to fit the stab on the fuse, when eyed from behind it was perfectly aligned, after frizing it in its position with four spots of CA the wing was removed and the epoxy was added to the inside and outside of the stab.

Ok, a little game for you guys. Can you find my cat? I know she is somewhere around here, from time to time she disappears I know she is on one of the last pictures posted here, good luck and happy hunting Oh! Im adding another hunt, what kind of tequila am I drinking?
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Hi Dan, could you give me the amount of travel that you have on the ailerons, elevators, rudder and flaps? And where do you have the CG at the moment? And do you like it there?

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Hi, Carlos.

The CG position is the one specified in the Zirroli plan.
I fly with this CG position and am pleased.

I will measure the movement of eleroans, stabilizers, rudder and I will transmit to you.

A good day,
Dan.
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Great Build, Great Photos. Boy, when ever I see a Turbinator, it reminds me of the Navy's F3D Skyknight. The Turbinator is a great flyer. Seriously enjoy its envelope. Chic
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Thank you Chic, I'm enjoying the build a lot, it only takes a few minutes to upload the pictures, not a problem helping the next Turbo builder
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Fortunately and unfortunately I'm at work today and tomorrow so, no building 'till Monday.
still a lot of small but important details to do on the fuse, the wing will be another milestone

Today I get to play with the real ones

Mmm?, double post, how did that happened?
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Carlos

Nice looking build! What turbine do you plan on installing?

Regards,
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Dennis
Thank you for the nice comments on the build. I'm installing a P60 ( 13.5 lbs ) at first to see how it flys with but I have a feeling that the best trust will come from a Kintech K80 ( 19 lbs ) both engines burn 8 oz. a minute, the fuel tan is a 100 oz one, that is enough to fly for 12 minutes at max rpms which we hardly ever do during a flight, oh, one big difference between the two is that the K80 weights o e more pound.

I'm estimating a 18-19 lbs dry weight and a 23-24 lbs ready to fly.

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From last night, this is how I met the new year I was taking a quick look on how much I will have to trim the elevators .
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Originally Posted by CARS II
Dennis
Thank you for the nice comments on the build. I'm installing a P60 ( 13.5 lbs ) at first to see how it flys with but I have a feeling that the best trust will come from a Kintech K80 ( 19 lbs ) both engines burn 8 oz. a minute, the fuel tan is a 100 oz one, that is enough to fly for 12 minutes at max rpms which we hardly ever do during a flight, oh, one big difference between the two is that the K80 weights o e more pound.

I'm estimating a 18-19 lbs dry weight and a 23-24 lbs ready to fly.
Thanks for the feedback. I getting ready to order my first turbine and not sure which direct I want to do. Leaning toward a Munts Jet 80 or Kingtech 85.
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Welcome, 1/2 of the turbine is the support you get from the vendor, that's why Kingtech is so popular, Berry is a terrific guy to work with.
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Originally Posted by DAN 73
Hi.
I used the stainless steel plate.
I did not have enough stainless steel sheets and I also used a piece of aluminum sheet to the tail.
What gauge or thickness was the stainless steel/aluminum Dan?
Thanks


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