Composite ARF Tucano Build
04-10-2012, 03:32 AM
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RE: Composite ARF Tucano Build
Another thing, I am using is 2 cockpits, one for show, heavy, it came out to about 4 pounds, and one just the frame, less then 1 pound for flight. I was planning to put just the dashboard and a foam like, pilot figure, just to show something during flight as the full cockpit over 100 mph does not do any good other than caring dead weight for a free ride. That made a world of difference along with the hydraulic gear.
04-10-2012, 03:35 AM
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RE: Composite ARF Tucano Build
ORIGINAL: Springbok Flyer
Ditto, very sorry to hear about your crash.
I now have 4 flights on my Tucano and all is well. I moved the factory c of g forward by 15 mm and the plane has a nice tail up flying attitude. I needed 4 mm of down elevator compensation with full flap and about half that with first flap. On my last flight the engine revved up to 166500 and the prop (Biela 24x12 turbo prop) maxed at 7500 rpm. All my ECU settings are still the JC factory ones.
Great plane, definately a keeper. Just wish CARF would improve their quality control, provide more ARTF for the price and get improved landing gear units.
Cheers,
Jan
Ditto, very sorry to hear about your crash.
I now have 4 flights on my Tucano and all is well. I moved the factory c of g forward by 15 mm and the plane has a nice tail up flying attitude. I needed 4 mm of down elevator compensation with full flap and about half that with first flap. On my last flight the engine revved up to 166500 and the prop (Biela 24x12 turbo prop) maxed at 7500 rpm. All my ECU settings are still the JC factory ones.
Great plane, definately a keeper. Just wish CARF would improve their quality control, provide more ARTF for the price and get improved landing gear units.
Cheers,
Jan
My CG was factory and was flying great, the kit seams to be one of the first version, I bought from someone in Florida, do not know if that makes a difference. Also the plane came out very light.
04-10-2012, 10:25 AM
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RE: Composite ARF Tucano Build
ORIGINAL: fred cesquim
hello Guys,
anybody here had sucess on retracting the Tucano mains?
we have tried to use the electronic valve with as much delay as possible, but really, the wheel and legs are just too much for the small Behotec cylinder to close it.
definetively, inverted flight retraction is a poor solution to such an expensive and beatyfull bird.
any input on this?
best
Fred
hello Guys,
anybody here had sucess on retracting the Tucano mains?
we have tried to use the electronic valve with as much delay as possible, but really, the wheel and legs are just too much for the small Behotec cylinder to close it.
definetively, inverted flight retraction is a poor solution to such an expensive and beatyfull bird.
any input on this?
best
Fred
Use hydraulic system, we did it on mine it its perfect, works exactly like the real thing!
04-12-2012, 03:09 PM
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Leo,
Oh man...sorry to hear about your accident. FWIW...the exhaust housing rotates normally left and right (well...mine does anyway) so I don't think it's damaged. Best to have it checked out for sure.
Another point, I learned well early on NEVER operate the smoke system below about 1/2 throttle and it's recommended to only smoke above 3/4. That came direct from Jet Central and I continue the same procedures with my Jetcat Turboprop. You may have choked your self out if you were doing a low and slow pass with the smoke on. I don't know...it's just a thought.
I currently have 57 flights on my Jetcat V3 and besides running out of gas once (oops!) I have not had one lick of trouble or any issues with it. It's a great Turbo Prop, super reliability and as solid as a rock. Best of luck getting everything repaired.
Beave
Oh man...sorry to hear about your accident. FWIW...the exhaust housing rotates normally left and right (well...mine does anyway) so I don't think it's damaged. Best to have it checked out for sure.
Another point, I learned well early on NEVER operate the smoke system below about 1/2 throttle and it's recommended to only smoke above 3/4. That came direct from Jet Central and I continue the same procedures with my Jetcat Turboprop. You may have choked your self out if you were doing a low and slow pass with the smoke on. I don't know...it's just a thought.
I currently have 57 flights on my Jetcat V3 and besides running out of gas once (oops!) I have not had one lick of trouble or any issues with it. It's a great Turbo Prop, super reliability and as solid as a rock. Best of luck getting everything repaired.
Beave
04-26-2012, 01:51 PM
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Hi guys,
I have now had 6 flights with mine and it is a wonderful model. Definately a keeper. Only have one bugbear; I hate doing up the canopy with the 4 bolts after starting. Do any of you use a different method, and if so, please post some photo's?
I have been considering the use of 1/4 turn latches, but finding the right ones in small quantity seems to be a problem. I am aware of one guy using the usual dowel and canopy latch method, but personally prefer a way to still use the same holes in the fuse, as the bolts. Must say, if I was doing the grey kit, I would no doubt change the attachment and make it a lot less fiddly than it is now.
Cheers,
Jan
I have now had 6 flights with mine and it is a wonderful model. Definately a keeper. Only have one bugbear; I hate doing up the canopy with the 4 bolts after starting. Do any of you use a different method, and if so, please post some photo's?
I have been considering the use of 1/4 turn latches, but finding the right ones in small quantity seems to be a problem. I am aware of one guy using the usual dowel and canopy latch method, but personally prefer a way to still use the same holes in the fuse, as the bolts. Must say, if I was doing the grey kit, I would no doubt change the attachment and make it a lot less fiddly than it is now.
Cheers,
Jan
04-29-2012, 04:37 AM
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ORIGINAL: bevar
Leo,
Oh man...sorry to hear about your accident. FWIW...the exhaust housing rotates normally left and right (well...mine does anyway) so I don't think it's damaged. Best to have it checked out for sure.
Another point, I learned well early on NEVER operate the smoke system below about 1/2 throttle and it's recommended to only smoke above 3/4. That came direct from Jet Central and I continue the same procedures with my Jetcat Turboprop. You may have choked your self out if you were doing a low and slow pass with the smoke on. I don't know...it's just a thought.
I currently have 57 flights on my Jetcat V3 and besides running out of gas once (oops!) I have not had one lick of trouble or any issues with it. It's a great Turbo Prop, super reliability and as solid as a rock. Best of luck getting everything repaired.
Beave
Leo,
Oh man...sorry to hear about your accident. FWIW...the exhaust housing rotates normally left and right (well...mine does anyway) so I don't think it's damaged. Best to have it checked out for sure.
Another point, I learned well early on NEVER operate the smoke system below about 1/2 throttle and it's recommended to only smoke above 3/4. That came direct from Jet Central and I continue the same procedures with my Jetcat Turboprop. You may have choked your self out if you were doing a low and slow pass with the smoke on. I don't know...it's just a thought.
I currently have 57 flights on my Jetcat V3 and besides running out of gas once (oops!) I have not had one lick of trouble or any issues with it. It's a great Turbo Prop, super reliability and as solid as a rock. Best of luck getting everything repaired.
Beave
Hi Bevar and everybody,
Here are some pictures from the ECU.
The reason was Over RPM. The maximum RPM was set to 165000 but some how the ECU let it go all the way to 179500 and shut the engine. Does that have anything thing to do with the throttle stick curve set to 3.0? Does it have to be set to a different setting? Does the manual addresses that anywhere?
I have not shipped the engine to US yet as I had a trip there that was later cancel.
If everyone has an input please do so.
Many thanks!
04-29-2012, 05:43 AM
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Jan,
My friend Lukey hated the 4 bolt set up too and modified his to where the front of the canopy hooks into a brass tube that runs across the fuse and he now just has to install the rear two bolts.
Pablo has commented that we should try a BVM hatch latch on the rear part of the canopy to eliminate the last two bolts.
That sounds good but I question how much the bolted in canopy adds to the integrity of the fuselage. Do you think not having the canopy bolted in would make the overall fuse weaker? I do not know...
Beave
PS. I'll have Luke post some pics of his canopy latch design later today.
My friend Lukey hated the 4 bolt set up too and modified his to where the front of the canopy hooks into a brass tube that runs across the fuse and he now just has to install the rear two bolts.
Pablo has commented that we should try a BVM hatch latch on the rear part of the canopy to eliminate the last two bolts.
That sounds good but I question how much the bolted in canopy adds to the integrity of the fuselage. Do you think not having the canopy bolted in would make the overall fuse weaker? I do not know...
Beave
PS. I'll have Luke post some pics of his canopy latch design later today.
ORIGINAL: Springbok Flyer
Hi guys,
I have now had 6 flights with mine and it is a wonderful model. Definately a keeper. Only have one bugbear; I hate doing up the canopy with the 4 bolts after starting. Do any of you use a different method, and if so, please post some photo's?
I have been considering the use of 1/4 turn latches, but finding the right ones in small quantity seems to be a problem. I am aware of one guy using the usual dowel and canopy latch method, but personally prefer a way to still use the same holes in the fuse, as the bolts. Must say, if I was doing the grey kit, I would no doubt change the attachment and make it a lot less fiddly than it is now.
Cheers,
Jan
Hi guys,
I have now had 6 flights with mine and it is a wonderful model. Definately a keeper. Only have one bugbear; I hate doing up the canopy with the 4 bolts after starting. Do any of you use a different method, and if so, please post some photo's?
I have been considering the use of 1/4 turn latches, but finding the right ones in small quantity seems to be a problem. I am aware of one guy using the usual dowel and canopy latch method, but personally prefer a way to still use the same holes in the fuse, as the bolts. Must say, if I was doing the grey kit, I would no doubt change the attachment and make it a lot less fiddly than it is now.
Cheers,
Jan
04-29-2012, 01:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: bevar
Jan,
My friend Lukey hated the 4 bolt set up too and modified his to where the front of the canopy hooks into a brass tube that runs across the fuse and he now just has to install the rear two bolts.
Pablo has commented that we should try a BVM hatch latch on the rear part of the canopy to eliminate the last two bolts.
That sounds good but I question how much the bolted in canopy adds to the integrity of the fuselage. Do you think not having the canopy bolted in would make the overall fuse weaker? I do not know...
Beave
PS. I'll have Luke post some pics of his canopy latch design later today.
Jan,
My friend Lukey hated the 4 bolt set up too and modified his to where the front of the canopy hooks into a brass tube that runs across the fuse and he now just has to install the rear two bolts.
Pablo has commented that we should try a BVM hatch latch on the rear part of the canopy to eliminate the last two bolts.
That sounds good but I question how much the bolted in canopy adds to the integrity of the fuselage. Do you think not having the canopy bolted in would make the overall fuse weaker? I do not know...
Beave
PS. I'll have Luke post some pics of his canopy latch design later today.
Beave,
That will be good.
Must admit, I have not considered the fuselage integrity issue. Quite possibly what CARF had in mind when they designed the current fixing of the cockpit/canopy. I suppose one could reinforce the fuse and use a pin and latch method.
I have now replaced the four bolts with short 8mm stainless steel bolts. At least it reduces the time it takes to screw them in.
Cheers,
Jan
11-19-2012, 03:59 AM
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RE: Composite ARF Tucano Build
In a couple more weeks I should be able to start the build of my new Tucano. This time I have decided to change the classic red scheme and also go with a Jet Cat TP.
I will also try Bevar's tip of adding 12 ounces of lead to the motor mount as far forward as possible since I always thought that the Tucano didn't fly right with the recommended CG.
I will also try Bevar's tip of adding 12 ounces of lead to the motor mount as far forward as possible since I always thought that the Tucano didn't fly right with the recommended CG.
01-10-2013, 04:48 PM
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The bird finally arrived and the build should start shortly (hopping for beginning of February). Composite Arf did a wonderful job with the paint.
01-11-2013, 04:13 AM
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Very nice Gonzalo, mine flies very well with only 6 oz added to the nose. It would seem that by moving the cg forward by 10mm has put the flying on the step and the Tucano now looks right in the sky.
Cheers,
Jan
Cheers,
Jan
01-11-2013, 04:16 AM
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Jan:
Good to know that moving the CG forward works as I've been told. My previous Tucano always looked strange in the air and I always thought that there was something wrong. It always looked like if the plane was seating.
Good to know that moving the CG forward works as I've been told. My previous Tucano always looked strange in the air and I always thought that there was something wrong. It always looked like if the plane was seating.
01-11-2013, 07:39 AM
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I can tell you CARF do not recommend skipping the 4 screws holding the canopy on as it does add to the fuselage strength.
It takes a few minutes at the begining of the flying session to add the bolts after wing fixing and that's it?!
Dw
It takes a few minutes at the begining of the flying session to add the bolts after wing fixing and that's it?!
Dw
01-21-2013, 11:23 AM
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ORIGINAL: heraldoboldrin
I am thinking in use the new Jetcat turboprop on the Tucano.. 50% stronger.. and almost the same weight.. anyone already try it?
I am thinking in use the new Jetcat turboprop on the Tucano.. 50% stronger.. and almost the same weight.. anyone already try it?
For sure the Tucano with a bigger turbine would be a rocket.
01-21-2013, 12:31 PM
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ORIGINAL: Gonzalo38
For sure the Tucano with a bigger turbine would be a rocket.
ORIGINAL: heraldoboldrin
I am thinking in use the new Jetcat turboprop on the Tucano.. 50% stronger.. and almost the same weight.. anyone already try it?
I am thinking in use the new Jetcat turboprop on the Tucano.. 50% stronger.. and almost the same weight.. anyone already try it?
Cheers,
Jan
01-22-2013, 02:23 PM
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Mike,
My Tucano is equipped with the JetCat V3 and recommended Biela 3 blade prop. Depending on how aggressively I fly, my flight times vary between 6 and 8 minutes.
Cheers,
Jan
My Tucano is equipped with the JetCat V3 and recommended Biela 3 blade prop. Depending on how aggressively I fly, my flight times vary between 6 and 8 minutes.
Cheers,
Jan
03-22-2013, 06:04 AM
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RE: Composite ARF Tucano Build
Just finished a friends Tucano off, its taken some time-smoke system, lights. programming everything on a XG-11 took a bit of head scratching, but the end result looks great.
Dw
Dw
