Kingtech Jets
08-09-2008 | 02:26 PM
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From: CipollettiRio Negro, ARGENTINA
Kingtech Jets
Anybody knows something about this brand??
Here I found some videos....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnM8UvBKhew&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIXnWSiEum0
Here I found some videos....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnM8UvBKhew&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIXnWSiEum0
08-09-2008 | 08:10 PM
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From: CipollettiRio Negro, ARGENTINA
RE: Kingtech Jets
Hi!
The plane is Skymaster, because in the other videos it says Skymaster.
The Kingtech is the brand of the turbine, but I didnt hear about it before...
BR.-
The plane is Skymaster, because in the other videos it says Skymaster.
The Kingtech is the brand of the turbine, but I didnt hear about it before...
BR.-
08-09-2008 | 09:34 PM
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RE: Kingtech Jets
It seems that they plan to introduce them in August-September.
I found this info:
- It seems that they are doing their own R&D and that they have high tech
- Model name: K-70X
- At present for jet engines for the test version
Diameter: 95 mm length (including the starter motor): 255 mm
133000rpm → thrust 6 KG
140000rpm → thrust 7 KG
- "Now Taiwan's own production of high-tech low-cost engines coming soon"
I found this info:
- It seems that they are doing their own R&D and that they have high tech
- Model name: K-70X
- At present for jet engines for the test version
Diameter: 95 mm length (including the starter motor): 255 mm
133000rpm → thrust 6 KG
140000rpm → thrust 7 KG
- "Now Taiwan's own production of high-tech low-cost engines coming soon"
08-09-2008 | 10:08 PM
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08-09-2008 | 10:42 PM
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From: CipollettiRio Negro, ARGENTINA
RE: Kingtech Jets
ATJ Turbines (translated)
ATJ Turbine China-made jet engines officially listed La ~ ~
Taiwan's manufacturing production has been the engine of La paste a few products and plans to fly abroad and share the Friends of sync with the current listing 10.5 KG, and 22 KG thrust engine listed in Figure
Excellent material than foreign manufacturers, we have all kinds of CNC machines and turbines balancing machines, electronic testing equipment logistics no problem ~
10.5KG specifications
Full-length: 295 mm
Diameter: 111 mm
Idle: 33,000 RPM
High-speed: 123,000 RPM
Exhaust temperature: 560 ° C - 660 ° C
Compression ratio: 2.2: 1
Thrust: 10.5kg / max RPM
Engine weight: 1.45KG-starter with the ECU, engine -
Fuel: Jet A1, JP4, kerosene
5% jet engine oil
22KG engine
Specifications
Domestic
ATJ-220
22KG specifications
Full-length: 350 mm
Diameter: 131 mm
Idle: 30,000 RPM
High-speed: 108,000 RPM
Exhaust temperature: 680 ° C - 750 ° C
Compression ratio: 3: 1
Thrust: 22.5kg / max RPM
Engine weight: 2.45KG-starter with the ECU, engine -
Fuel: Jet
A1, JP4, adding 5 percent for kerosene jet engine oil
Fuel Consumption: 640g / pm
(Full thrust 22.5 KG)
ATJ Turbine China-made jet engines officially listed La ~ ~
Taiwan's manufacturing production has been the engine of La paste a few products and plans to fly abroad and share the Friends of sync with the current listing 10.5 KG, and 22 KG thrust engine listed in Figure
Excellent material than foreign manufacturers, we have all kinds of CNC machines and turbines balancing machines, electronic testing equipment logistics no problem ~
10.5KG specifications
Full-length: 295 mm
Diameter: 111 mm
Idle: 33,000 RPM
High-speed: 123,000 RPM
Exhaust temperature: 560 ° C - 660 ° C
Compression ratio: 2.2: 1
Thrust: 10.5kg / max RPM
Engine weight: 1.45KG-starter with the ECU, engine -
Fuel: Jet A1, JP4, kerosene
5% jet engine oil
22KG engine
Specifications
Domestic
ATJ-220
22KG specifications
Full-length: 350 mm
Diameter: 131 mm
Idle: 30,000 RPM
High-speed: 108,000 RPM
Exhaust temperature: 680 ° C - 750 ° C
Compression ratio: 3: 1
Thrust: 22.5kg / max RPM
Engine weight: 2.45KG-starter with the ECU, engine -
Fuel: Jet
A1, JP4, adding 5 percent for kerosene jet engine oil
Fuel Consumption: 640g / pm
(Full thrust 22.5 KG)
08-10-2008 | 08:54 AM
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RE: Kingtech Jets
ORIGINAL: Strykaas
At least with these low RPM big turbine engines, the probability of throwing blades because of faulty chinese casting is reduced to some extent
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At least with these low RPM big turbine engines, the probability of throwing blades because of faulty chinese casting is reduced to some extent
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Don't be so sure. The stresses are comparable. They are just as likely to throw a blade and more likely to do damage when they do.
But hey... It sure makes things interesting!
08-10-2008 | 11:23 AM
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From: CipollettiRio Negro, ARGENTINA
RE: Kingtech Jets
Hi guys!
The turbines are from Taiwan, not China.
The quality is very good... the owner of the company is a guy that has a turbo factory long time ago.
They have high tech and they do their own R&D.
BR.-
The turbines are from Taiwan, not China.
The quality is very good... the owner of the company is a guy that has a turbo factory long time ago.
They have high tech and they do their own R&D.
BR.-
08-10-2008 | 02:26 PM
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ATJ Turbines (translated)
ATJ Turbine China-made jet engines officially listed La ~ ~
ATJ Turbines (translated)
ATJ Turbine China-made jet engines officially listed La ~ ~
08-10-2008 | 06:42 PM
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ORIGINAL: monkeyking
ATJ are from Taiwan.
Kingtech Also.
They will provide a top quality product at the best price soon.
Regards.
ATJ are from Taiwan.
Kingtech Also.
They will provide a top quality product at the best price soon.
Regards.
How would you be able to state this as a certainty unless you are somehow
involved or have seen/flown several of their engines?
Rob
08-11-2008 | 04:31 AM
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ORIGINAL: kenazzo2000
does anyone know how much they cost? thankyou
does anyone know how much they cost? thankyou
Best Regareds
Anton
08-11-2008 | 06:10 AM
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ORIGINAL: pilot tw
Hi, I just dinner with the Kingtech guys last night in the Kaohsing Taiwan , the List prices should be under $1995.- USD, but they will sell the first products in the Taiwan , not sell to oversea at moment, this will can try find some problems and make the very good service in Taiwan...
Best Regareds
Anton
ORIGINAL: kenazzo2000
does anyone know how much they cost? thankyou
does anyone know how much they cost? thankyou
Best Regareds
Anton
basicly you mean copyright problems?
08-11-2008 | 09:23 AM
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ORIGINAL: monkeyking
It seems that they plan to introduce them in August-September.
I found this info:
- It seems that they are doing their own R&D and that they have high tech
- Model name: K-70X
- At present for jet engines for the test version
Diameter: 95 mm length (including the starter motor): 255 mm
133000rpm → thrust 6 KG
140000rpm → thrust 7 KG
- "Now Taiwan's own production of high-tech low-cost engines coming soon"
It seems that they plan to introduce them in August-September.
I found this info:
- It seems that they are doing their own R&D and that they have high tech
- Model name: K-70X
- At present for jet engines for the test version
Diameter: 95 mm length (including the starter motor): 255 mm
133000rpm → thrust 6 KG
140000rpm → thrust 7 KG
- "Now Taiwan's own production of high-tech low-cost engines coming soon"
Kingtech Jet K-70X is the new design, patented the jet engine, high-tech factory production, Taiwan's defense industry companies.
full length:255mm
Diameter:96mm
Idle:48000rpm
High-speed:145000rpm
Temperature:650 ° C
Compression ratio:3.2:1
Thrust:7.5kg-32 ° C
Fuel: for Diesel & Jet A1, kerosene.
I heard the news in Taiwan,Kingtech Jet K-70X prices is between $ 1650 . $ 1950. U.S.D.
08-11-2008 | 08:49 PM
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RE: Kingtech Jets
ORIGINAL: pilot tw
Hi, I just dinner with the Kingtech guys last night in the Kaohsing Taiwan , the List prices should be under $1995.- USD, but they will sell the first products in the Taiwan , not sell to oversea at moment, this will can try find some problems and make the very good service in Taiwan...
Best Regareds
Anton
ORIGINAL: kenazzo2000
does anyone know how much they cost? thankyou
does anyone know how much they cost? thankyou
Best Regareds
Anton
08-14-2008 | 08:41 PM
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From: CHANGHUATAIWAN, TAIWAN
RE: Kingtech Jets
As I have seen in the test flight by installing on the Skymaster F-16,it is very powerful engine.As I know,this engine is a brand new turbine engine.Most parts are new designed by the
builder,not copy from other engines.(the builder cooperated with university turbine engine professor)Only the ECU use FADEC ,not self-design,easy to set and programming.
Most important,the builder hope to promote this hobby by lower price!
builder,not copy from other engines.(the builder cooperated with university turbine engine professor)Only the ECU use FADEC ,not self-design,easy to set and programming.
Most important,the builder hope to promote this hobby by lower price!
08-14-2008 | 10:41 PM
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ORIGINAL: CPS
As I have seen in the test flight by installing on the Skymaster F-16,it is very powerful engine.As I know,this engine is a brand new turbine engine.Most parts are new designed by the
builder,not copy from other engines.(the builder cooperated with university turbine engine professor)Only the ECU use FADEC ,not self-design,easy to set and programming.
Most important,the builder hope to promote this hobby by lower price!
As I have seen in the test flight by installing on the Skymaster F-16,it is very powerful engine.As I know,this engine is a brand new turbine engine.Most parts are new designed by the
builder,not copy from other engines.(the builder cooperated with university turbine engine professor)Only the ECU use FADEC ,not self-design,easy to set and programming.
Most important,the builder hope to promote this hobby by lower price!
Oh Pleeaaaassseee.
I'm designing an engine and I'm consulting with a university professor which happens to specialize in miniature turbojet engines. Do you think he knows the exact details of c.c. design for the engine? Sure he knows the theory but there's still a gap between theory and practice (engineering). In the end it takes a lot of iterations to produce a working engine. They don't just "pop out" from the blue.
As far as I see there are couple of things wrong here:
1) Far east mfg. We've been burned before, we're more cautious now.
2) No history.
3) No proper website
4) A multitude of "reccomenders" who have just joined RCU and are already praising the engine as the bees knees.
5) No "real" information on the engine. Test data? Facility data?
In short, this whole deal looks fishy to me. I'd bet we'll soon see pictures of the "production facility" and all sorts of data on the engine. At this point I'd take anything that's coming from there with a lot of skepticism. Point is that to make a quality engine you need to be in the business and not just posts rave reviews on RCU.
I feel better now... Can get off my soapbox.
08-15-2008 | 10:40 AM
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ORIGINAL: erazz
Oh Pleeaaaassseee.
I'm designing an engine and I'm consulting with a university professor which happens to specialize in miniature turbojet engines. Do you think he knows the exact details of c.c. design for the engine? Sure he knows the theory but there's still a gap between theory and practice (engineering). In the end it takes a lot of iterations to produce a working engine. They don't just "pop out" from the blue.
As far as I see there are couple of things wrong here:
1) Far east mfg. We've been burned before, we're more cautious now.
2) No history.
3) No proper website
4) A multitude of "reccomenders" who have just joined RCU and are already praising the engine as the bees knees.
5) No "real" information on the engine. Test data? Facility data?
In short, this whole deal looks fishy to me. I'd bet we'll soon see pictures of the "production facility" and all sorts of data on the engine. At this point I'd take anything that's coming from there with a lot of skepticism. Point is that to make a quality engine you need to be in the business and not just posts rave reviews on RCU.
I feel better now... Can get off my soapbox.
ORIGINAL: CPS
As I have seen in the test flight by installing on the Skymaster F-16,it is very powerful engine.As I know,this engine is a brand new turbine engine.Most parts are new designed by the
builder,not copy from other engines.(the builder cooperated with university turbine engine professor)Only the ECU use FADEC ,not self-design,easy to set and programming.
Most important,the builder hope to promote this hobby by lower price!
As I have seen in the test flight by installing on the Skymaster F-16,it is very powerful engine.As I know,this engine is a brand new turbine engine.Most parts are new designed by the
builder,not copy from other engines.(the builder cooperated with university turbine engine professor)Only the ECU use FADEC ,not self-design,easy to set and programming.
Most important,the builder hope to promote this hobby by lower price!
Oh Pleeaaaassseee.
I'm designing an engine and I'm consulting with a university professor which happens to specialize in miniature turbojet engines. Do you think he knows the exact details of c.c. design for the engine? Sure he knows the theory but there's still a gap between theory and practice (engineering). In the end it takes a lot of iterations to produce a working engine. They don't just "pop out" from the blue.
As far as I see there are couple of things wrong here:
1) Far east mfg. We've been burned before, we're more cautious now.
2) No history.
3) No proper website
4) A multitude of "reccomenders" who have just joined RCU and are already praising the engine as the bees knees.
5) No "real" information on the engine. Test data? Facility data?
In short, this whole deal looks fishy to me. I'd bet we'll soon see pictures of the "production facility" and all sorts of data on the engine. At this point I'd take anything that's coming from there with a lot of skepticism. Point is that to make a quality engine you need to be in the business and not just posts rave reviews on RCU.
I feel better now... Can get off my soapbox.
We agree with your point, the University is only the theoretical basis for advice, all the R & D in the factory is completed, it will spend a lot of time.
Reply to your question:
1. More caution is right, this is the attitude that our we managed engine, want to give customers a good quality of engine
2. Starting this engine the first time was four years ago, after four years of our R & D time, the engine has started more than 3,000 times,I do not know if this is considered history.
3. We plan to introduce our engines in September , web is under re-construction, The exposure of the engine now is not in we of expectations.
4.CPS is my flying friend in Taiwan, I would like to thank his praise.
5. The engine will be introduced in our web site soon.
The question for us is good, thank you for your suggestions.
tony
