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"Hey Ron
How long did it take you to get the stu fans? Thats what i wanted to set it up with but from what i understand, he had a few orders to fill and was a waiting list. I was worried about tail weight on the a10 but had no problem with the turbax edf's. They are even 1/2 pound each, heavier than their glow version. With the stumax, there would be a weight savings of about a pound in the engine area but not so needed. I will try to contact them again after i get all this squared away. Cool sounding fan though. As for now, we will see how the Tams perform.
Chris "
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I'd email Stu.. from what I understand many guys were dropping off his waiting list... maybe the bad economy
there may be no wait now... it will fly great with Tams Fan... it's a power house
for scale sound it would be hard to beat Stu's fan... I'd be very interested to have this plane with two stu max's
can't wait to see how it goes..
if all goes well I hope to be at california jets with my Stu Max powered Spark... but time is not on my side right now [:@]
Ron
How long did it take you to get the stu fans? Thats what i wanted to set it up with but from what i understand, he had a few orders to fill and was a waiting list. I was worried about tail weight on the a10 but had no problem with the turbax edf's. They are even 1/2 pound each, heavier than their glow version. With the stumax, there would be a weight savings of about a pound in the engine area but not so needed. I will try to contact them again after i get all this squared away. Cool sounding fan though. As for now, we will see how the Tams perform.
Chris "
sorry I missed this post...
I'd email Stu.. from what I understand many guys were dropping off his waiting list... maybe the bad economy
there may be no wait now... it will fly great with Tams Fan... it's a power house
for scale sound it would be hard to beat Stu's fan... I'd be very interested to have this plane with two stu max's
can't wait to see how it goes..
if all goes well I hope to be at california jets with my Stu Max powered Spark... but time is not on my side right now [:@]
Ron
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We haven't got it up on the website yet...working on it. The complete kit is $1295 not including the grear, radio or engine/fan. It really goes together fast and we are currently working on the plans and build sheet. This all came to fruition a bit prematurely, but we are doing our best to get it all out there for you. As I said before, we will have kits to look at at Calif. jets and we will get the web site done asap as well.
Thanks again for all the interest and I can assure you, the wait will be worth it. Also, it is not the same size as the Miller to my knowledge.
Lowell Wexler
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Thanks again for all the interest and I can assure you, the wait will be worth it. Also, it is not the same size as the Miller to my knowledge.
Lowell Wexler
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If your looking for a Stu fan still Ron I have one here. So much stuff on the burner I'm just not gonna get to it anytime soon. So if ya want one soon and at a break just let me know.
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I just got back from Calif. Jets and the A-10 was the hit! Ali flew it twice and ordered 3 of them! We also took orders for 12 add'l. We are going to have it produced and should have a lot of kits available in about 120 days. They will be a complete ARF with everything except moter, fan and electronics.
Look at the thread on CA jets for flying shots of the plane. It was great!
I will keep you all posted.
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Look at the thread on CA jets for flying shots of the plane. It was great!
I will keep you all posted.
Lowell
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Lowell,
Your A10 looks great! I can't wait to get one in the shop and get it ready for E-Fest in September. It's going to be tough flying all the different jets Tam will have for the show with that A10 there...I'm sure I will try to fly it non-stop!
Russ
Your A10 looks great! I can't wait to get one in the shop and get it ready for E-Fest in September. It's going to be tough flying all the different jets Tam will have for the show with that A10 there...I'm sure I will try to fly it non-stop!
Russ
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I just got back from Calif. Jets and the A-10 was the hit! Ali flew it twice and ordered 3 of them! We also took orders for 12 add'l. We are going to have it produced and should have a lot of kits available in about 120 days. They will be a complete ARF with everything except moter, fan and electronics.
I just got back from Calif. Jets and the A-10 was the hit! Ali flew it twice and ordered 3 of them! We also took orders for 12 add'l. We are going to have it produced and should have a lot of kits available in about 120 days. They will be a complete ARF with everything except moter, fan and electronics.
Awesome job...
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Hi Lowell
Great to meet you and the guys and thanks for the A-10 flights. A great model, and I look forward to getting my hands on some kits to play with and sell.
A few photos of your great lil Hawg.
Great to meet you and the guys and thanks for the A-10 flights. A great model, and I look forward to getting my hands on some kits to play with and sell.
A few photos of your great lil Hawg.
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Ron, the one we flew had Turbax fans and the first flight was 9 cell and the second 10. We flew the entire flight at half throttle (including take off!). It flys fast and slow very predictable and no bad habbits. It really was the hit here (not to mention Ali's great flying skills!!). Can't wait to get the production done.
Russ, we'll get you one as soon as we can. We have a few kits coming from here in the USA that will be available. Will keep you posted.
Ali, thanks for the great shots and the great flying! You are truely a talent. It was sure nice having you out here.
Chris, great job on the green one. It came out superb! You really have got it down. Thanks brother!
Lowell
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Russ, we'll get you one as soon as we can. We have a few kits coming from here in the USA that will be available. Will keep you posted.
Ali, thanks for the great shots and the great flying! You are truely a talent. It was sure nice having you out here.
Chris, great job on the green one. It came out superb! You really have got it down. Thanks brother!
Lowell
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Thanks "P". We think it was too!! After all the design and re-design and adjusting, I think we have it dialed in. It flys like a trainer! (only more fun!!).
Thanks again, and will keep you posted on the production.
Lowell
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Thanks again, and will keep you posted on the production.
Lowell
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Really great news!!!
will there be an adaptor for diffenet fans? 100mm 110mm 120 mm and such?
Did you fly it on the TJ100's ? How many cells?
Thanks Much
Ron
Really great news!!!
will there be an adaptor for diffenet fans? 100mm 110mm 120 mm and such?
Did you fly it on the TJ100's ? How many cells?
Thanks Much
Ron
I have a slightly different sructural setup for the cheap chinese 110mm fans for the engine nacelle but for the most part i think it would be fairly easy for the buyer to adapt it over. We have not messed around with enough setups to say we could offer something like this yet. Are you still thinking about the Stumax fans. When i get ready to do mine, i was wanting to set it up with Stumax fans so i will definately be making an adapter for these fans. I will be pretty busy for awhile so it may be some time before i even get around to purchasing some Stumax fans. If the time comes and you need some adapters you could send me the fan shroud and i can do some up for you. I live in central california which i believe is pretty close to where you are at.
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Thanks Chris.. yes I think the Stu Max fan would be amazing in this plane
When I'm ready I'll let you know and see if we can get the inlets made for it
I'm a bit confused are you an Lowell from RC Jet Direct business partners?
I love the plane and from all I heard it really was a hit down a buttonwillow!
I'd love to get my hands on one in the coming months
Ron
When I'm ready I'll let you know and see if we can get the inlets made for it
I'm a bit confused are you an Lowell from RC Jet Direct business partners?
I love the plane and from all I heard it really was a hit down a buttonwillow!
I'd love to get my hands on one in the coming months
Ron
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One of the lightest 120mm setups you could use on the A-10 would be the Aeronaut TF4000 fan, Neu 1912 1Y and Castle Creations HV110 ESC. The TF4000 is an all carbon fiber fan that weighs 4 oz. The 1912 weighs 12 ozs. and the CC HV100 weighs 5 ozs. for a total of 21 ozs. By comparison, the TJ100 with a 1518 motor and CC HV110 weighs 27 ozs. and about 25 ozs with a 1515 motor. The TF4000/Neu 1912 combo puts out 10+ pounds of thrust on 10S. I had this setup in a BVM Maverick a few years ago and it had an amp draw of 89 amps and 3200 watts and it pushed the Maverick to 165mph.
Kirk
One of the lightest 120mm setups you could use on the A-10 would be the Aeronaut TF4000 fan, Neu 1912 1Y and Castle Creations HV110 ESC. The TF4000 is an all carbon fiber fan that weighs 4 oz. The 1912 weighs 12 ozs. and the CC HV100 weighs 5 ozs. for a total of 21 ozs. By comparison, the TJ100 with a 1518 motor and CC HV110 weighs 27 ozs. and about 25 ozs with a 1515 motor. The TF4000/Neu 1912 combo puts out 10+ pounds of thrust on 10S. I had this setup in a BVM Maverick a few years ago and it had an amp draw of 89 amps and 3200 watts and it pushed the Maverick to 165mph.
Kirk
Kirk,
What's the price difference? I wouldn't mind paying more for the TF, but how much more is it? The performance numbers seem better. I don't see prices anywhere on Aeronaut stuff.
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The TF4000 is an all carbon fiber fan that weighs 4 oz. The 1912 weighs 12 ozs. and the CC HV100 weighs 5 ozs. for a total of 21 ozs.

As far as I am aware, Chris is the designer/builder of the model and RC Jets Direct is helping to bring the model to the (mass) market.
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We are the distributer/seller of the A-10. Chris has designed a great model and together we have worked out the "kink's" and have a great flying model! It is only available through RC Jets Direct. (web site almost done!!).
Thanks for all the interest and planes will be shipping soon! "Sic", your top on the list!!
Lowell
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Thanks for all the interest and planes will be shipping soon! "Sic", your top on the list!!
Lowell
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I've seen this kit up close and it's pretty darn slick! I'm waiting for the new JetScreamer motors for the DynEmax fans to come out. I hear 26k on 10s and 29k on 12s at an amp draw 103. The cost is supposed to be pretty incredible, too. Those would be awesome in this A-10. Nice bird!
I've seen this kit up close and it's pretty darn slick! I'm waiting for the new JetScreamer motors for the DynEmax fans to come out. I hear 26k on 10s and 29k on 12s at an amp draw 103. The cost is supposed to be pretty incredible, too. Those would be awesome in this A-10. Nice bird!
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Thanks Sean...you should see the new green one with invasion stripes. It is awesome!!! John is going to turbine it up.
It is really nice...
See at the field soon??
Take care,
Lowell
It is really nice...
See at the field soon??
Take care,
Lowell
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I've seen this kit up close and it's pretty darn slick! I'm waiting for the new JetScreamer motors for the DynEmax fans to come out. I hear 26k on 10s and 29k on 12s at an amp draw 103. The cost is supposed to be pretty incredible, too. Those would be awesome in this A-10. Nice bird!
Sean... with the JetScreamer/Dynamax setup weighing 3.5 pounds each, you would have 7 pounds of fan and motors in the back of this thing
I don't think it would be a good route for this plane
The other fans we are talking about are 1.5 pounds.. so 3 pounds total... 4 pounds less
So I think there would be an issue with CG?
I'd stick with the lighter fans on this one
Ron
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This is a really smooth flying A10 at a perfect size. Chris, you've really got a winner here. Got a chance to see it at California Jets and it really was a joy to watch.
Keep it up and good luck with selling these little warthogs. You should not have a problem at all.
Regards,
Keep it up and good luck with selling these little warthogs. You should not have a problem at all.
Regards,
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Ron,
Believe it or not, I actually knew that, lol. Of course, lighter is most often better, but there's a tradeoff and a balance with these things, right? If we were talking about fans sitting at the extreme aft end of the plane, that'd be one thing. Where the fans live on the aircraft, you'd probably be delightfully surprised at how little difference the overall penalty is for the tradeoff in potential performance. Maybe, maybe not. Having seen the plane fly, do you think an extra few pounds of weight would be a deal-killer if you also had an extra several pounds of thrust to go with it? Rhetorical question, though, not looking to get into a peeing contest...
Believe it or not, I actually knew that, lol. Of course, lighter is most often better, but there's a tradeoff and a balance with these things, right? If we were talking about fans sitting at the extreme aft end of the plane, that'd be one thing. Where the fans live on the aircraft, you'd probably be delightfully surprised at how little difference the overall penalty is for the tradeoff in potential performance. Maybe, maybe not. Having seen the plane fly, do you think an extra few pounds of weight would be a deal-killer if you also had an extra several pounds of thrust to go with it? Rhetorical question, though, not looking to get into a peeing contest...


