Point well taken. As for me, this will not be my first but my sixth.

FalconWings, I appreciate yours and everyones input but can you explain what you mean by "Jet Central is where the latest Technology is." From what I remember from any of their advertisements, Jet Central does not have any engine with kero start, like some others have had for a while now. I am not sure what you mean by "latest technology"

Don't forget Wren, some of their newer turbines have a 50 hr service life!
Istarted with a kit MW54 and have never had a problem with a Wren that required it
to be serviced! This includes the SuperSport, 44 Turbo Prop and 3, 160's.....Every time Itried other brands Ihad issues
(no not naming them )

In terms of starting method... Idon't care if my turbines start with propane or kero just so they start reliably and quickly
SO I can go fly.....

Read through the various "Turbine Forum" threads and through the "Jet Forum" thread on a search for you particular interest, you then see what manufacturer gives good service, who shuts up shop if someone is at a meeting, or who gives good support, then make up your own mind, no one can be completly unbiased, everyone will have a favorite.

Latest technology to me means the fastest spool up time and kero start which at the moment seems to be Jets-Munt Merlins, and no I don't own one, just going by the information I have gleened on here and through RCJI.

Mike

Jet Central has kero start...

Wren.

I assembled mine with the instructions from Wren and will do the 25 hours service myself after inspection. It was purchased unused form a guy who assembled it wrong.

It was like getting a turbine lesson included.

My next turbine will be a Kingtech. I can take that one apart as well.

Save don't over spend. You'll need it later.

Steve

JET CAT ALL THE WAY. JET CENTRAL HAS ,PERSONEL, PROBLEMS. SERVICE IS A BIG RUN AROUND GAME. JET CAT HAS ALL THE BEST,TURBINE,ELECTRONICS,SERVICE.

they have kerostart. By tech I mean fast spooling response, super high thrust to weight ratio. All of this because of the new internal design, not just adjusting the ECU parameters to increase performance.
Another thing to consider, Jet Central engines come with a nice carrying case, small Solenoids, nicd Xicoy ECU (some say the best in the industry), and a nice 5000 mah Li-ion battery.

But again, Jetcats are good too. Both are top of the line. But I lean more towards Jet Central because of the little details. I have nothing bad to say about Jetcat, except service turnaround time could ruin your season.

I agree with FalconWings about Jetcats service. I have owned Jetcat and Bob' service is great but not fast at all when it needs to be, it also ends up costing you more over the Jet Central service cost. I have a rabbit, I will be buying a cheetah and more after that. You won't know how good Jet Central is until you own one, from quality, service, performance and cost. Avoid listening to Rapptor as he always shows up to flame Jet Central with no real good reason, just check out his posting history. Do me a favor and give Eric at Jet Central a call and experience it for yourself before and after sale.

Mike

FalconWing, what is the turn around time you have experienced with Jet Central. Who knows say what the turn around time is with Jet Cat or Evo?

Already did before starting this thread.

Thanks for the advise. I know it is hard for some folks not to be biased, which can make decision making more complex.

I have owned 4 jet central turbines. From where I live, it takes about 5 days to get the turbine to Eric. He then ships turbines to factory (if that is what is needed). After Eric gets the turbine, I usually have the turbine back on my door step within a week after Eric recieves turbine maybe at most 1.5 weeks.

You living in Fl, I would imagine your turbine would take 1 day to get to Eric, then about a week to get back to you if he has to send it off.

Service is very fast.

As for the EVO and Jet Cat, can't help you there as I have 0 exp. with their service.

Keep in mind that Jet Central will let you replace some componets on the turbine without sending them back, so if something was to fail like the starter the part is sent to you.

I found out that Jet Central do offer kero start, but to find that out, you have to select the web site from mx, not the others.

I have had JetCentral, Simjet, Jet Cat, and Wren The Wren has been the smoothest and easiest starting of the bunch and Ihave never had to send one back yet (knock on wood)for service.
Other issues:JetCentral... turbines not smooth runningand uses WAY more fuel that others (falcon )
Simjet: almost as smooth running as wren but have more difficulties spooling up when the weather gets warm ( nexus)
Jet Cat: fair service but there you are.... Ihad to send 2 back for service (P80+120)
So far the Wrens just keep running... Iuse Castrol TTS oil @ 5%
And in an earlier post,someone said that the 160's etc have 50 hrs between suggested bearing replacements
WOW if ev flight was 8 mins that would be 50x60/8 or <u>375</u> flights before you have to worry about bearing replacement
that alone is awsome.. shows the superior design+construction of these turbines!!!! (+how many planes last 375 flights before they reach thier expiration date for other reasons?)

ALSO the 44 Turbo Prop puts out 36-37 lbs of thrust while using a meager amount of fuel doing so

NOTAREPBUTA110% SATISFIED CUSTOMER!!!!!

ERIC IS THE PROBLEM AT J/C. MANY OTHERS HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH HIS SERVICE. ..THEY NEED GOOD SERVICE ,BECAUSE THEY ARE ALLWAYS IN THE MAIL FOR REPAIRS,,

None of the mfg. out their provide 100% satisfaction 100% of the time. With any buisness, you are going to have those that have had exellent luck and those that have had issues. Evo, jet cat, jet central, wren...I know of afew where the customer would not by another one of there products. However, I think the product themselves from these mfg. are good products in general. Some perform better then others.

As for Rapptor, did you actually even own a jet central product? From what I remember this was over someone else turbine and in another thread. This person has asked you to quit talking for him. If you in fact own or did own a Jet Central turbine and would like to reflect how they did you wrong then by all means do so. If not, please let those that have had issues with any of the mfg. post up here. The orginal thread poster is looking for such information so that he can make an informed buying decision.

noahb, thanks for posting that. yes, I am only looking for opinions of those who own and use the product, not to be a bashing over personal issues. Everyone one can have an issue with anyone once in a while, we are all human.

I've had Ram's, JetCentral's, and JetCat's.

IMHO the best turbine is the one that doesn't need servicing beyond your routine check that they all get (25 hr). It's great if service is free, it's even better when you never need it.

For that reason JetCat all the way...

About a week and a half. My engine travels from Texas to Florida to Mexico, then back.

Hey Rapptor, get a life instead of trying to mask an obviously excellent line of turbines and incredible service. I can't recall ever reading anyone having a problem with Eric other than you, maybe you are the problem. I don't even deal with the canadian rep because of how well Eric is with his customers. It pisses me off when your info. is completely false and could prevent someone from having an excellent experience with the purchase of a turbine.

As for fuel consumption, my rabbit from startup to shutdown which is about 8 min. and I am on the throttle alot (about 60-70% of flight at full throttle) and I use about 1.5-1.75litres. The new cheetah is suppose to be as good or better for its output. The cheetah has a 2 second spool up and my rabbit is definitely just under 3 seconds from idle to full. The new kero start rabbit has a new diffuser and Eric commented it is now 2 seconds for spool up.

WOW

I own several Wrens, the latest being a 160
yes 50 hours service interval on the new 160s.
I have had several hundred flights without a flame out.
spool up on the new 160 is faster than my trusty 54
Ron ballard (Wren USA) is a top guy, who pulls out the stops to satisfy his customers.
I have had several hundred flights without a flame out.

EVEN IF all the other turbines were not comming from country's that tried to shoot down my dad in 2 world wars, I would still only buy Wren, and no, I am not brand loyal, Im into reliability, service , performance , and value (be sure to check the price against those nasty german jobs)

"Jet Central engines come with a nice carrying case" ARE YOU SERIOUS ?

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HAH they NEED that case for frequent trips between NP fla and somewhere in Mexico!!!!!!!!
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better than the POS foam packed Jetcat. And you can take that 2000 mah li-poly that comes with the P-80SE and shove it up your foamie. ;-)

hey I was only expressing my opinion, if you dont like it feel free to shut the F up and just enlighten us with your own. I respect everyone elses point of view, why not do the same?

David