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Old 05-14-2019, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pvogel
kg isn't a measure of torque. Ncm or oz-in are the common torque measurements (you could do kg-cm or g-cm as well). Which servo are you referring to Drac1?

The 1609 hits 70-80% of available torque holding my Allure through a 2-of-4 point entry Split-S. That tells me it's too small for more advanced KE flight.

I assumed it would be interpreted kg-cm which is torque.

The 1609. I would be confident with that on rudder, but it's too heavy.
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1609=62.3g, 0606=22.7g, 0806=40g, total weight in my allure = 187.7g, that's less total servo weight than any other combo of servos I've used in the past. Add 10g to get to the 2211 with 19.3 kg-cm torque at 7.4v. Keep in mind that given the throw distance needed on the rudder you are going to have more than a 1cm control horn on the servo and the corresponding resulting loss of force to the rudder cable/control rod depending on your install. I think I have 1.5inches (3.8cm) from center to each rudder cable, so with the 1609's 13kg-cm we're talking about 3.4kg of effective force on a very large and not counter-balanced rudder. Again, note the %-age of available torque being used just to hold my Allure level through a 2 of 4 at 1:20 in my flight. Now, imagine asking that same rudder servo to hold through a KE loop!

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Originally Posted by pvogel
1609=62.3g, 0606=22.7g, 0806=40g, total weight in my allure = 187.7g, that's less total servo weight than any other combo of servos I've used in the past. Add 10g to get to the 2211 with 19.3 kg-cm torque at 7.4v. Keep in mind that given the throw distance needed on the rudder you are going to have more than a 1cm control horn on the servo and the corresponding resulting loss of force to the rudder cable/control rod depending on your install. I think I have 1.5inches (3.8cm) from center to each rudder cable, so with the 1609's 13kg-cm we're talking about 3.4kg of effective force on a very large and not counter-balanced rudder. Again, note the %-age of available torque being used just to hold my Allure level through a 2 of 4 at 1:20 in my flight. Now, imagine asking that same rudder servo to hold through a KE loop!

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OK. I still maintain 63g is too heavy, there are lighter options out there. Depends how heavy the plane is to start with though. I need to save weight where I can.

I fly GP. In my Xareltoo bipe, I use JR NX3421 - 30g, on ailerons and elevators. MKSHBL575SL - 53g and 16.8 kg/cm on rudder. It knife edge loops and knife edge figure 8's no problem. I have a new JR/DFA 3911 for the rudder. 20 kg/cm, 34g. Yet to be fitted.
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Originally Posted by pvogel
1609=62.3g, 0606=22.7g, 0806=40g, total weight in my allure = 187.7g, that's less total servo weight than any other combo of servos I've used in the past. Add 10g to get to the 2211 with 19.3 kg-cm torque at 7.4v. Keep in mind that given the throw distance needed on the rudder you are going to have more than a 1cm control horn on the servo and the corresponding resulting loss of force to the rudder cable/control rod depending on your install. I think I have 1.5inches (3.8cm) from center to each rudder cable, so with the 1609's 13kg-cm we're talking about 3.4kg of effective force on a very large and not counter-balanced rudder. Again, note the %-age of available torque being used just to hold my Allure level through a 2 of 4 at 1:20 in my flight. Now, imagine asking that same rudder servo to hold through a KE loop!

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For interest, if I were to set up a mono.

Ail - JR/DFA 3911 x 2 = 68g, elev - JR NX3421 x 2 = 60g, rudd - JR/DFA 3911 = 34g, throttle - JR HV169 = 22g.

Total = 184g. Take out the throttle servo and it's 162g.
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Originally Posted by pvogel
1609=62.3g, 0606=22.7g, 0806=40g, total weight in my allure = 187.7g, that's less total servo weight than any other combo of servos I've used in the past. Add 10g to get to the 2211 with 19.3 kg-cm torque at 7.4v. Keep in mind that given the throw distance needed on the rudder you are going to have more than a 1cm control horn on the servo and the corresponding resulting loss of force to the rudder cable/control rod depending on your install. I think I have 1.5inches (3.8cm) from center to each rudder cable, so with the 1609's 13kg-cm we're talking about 3.4kg of effective force on a very large and not counter-balanced rudder. Again, note the %-age of available torque being used just to hold my Allure level through a 2 of 4 at 1:20 in my flight. Now, imagine asking that same rudder servo to hold through a KE loop!

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For interest, if I were to set up a mono.

Ail - JR/DFA 3911 x 2 = 68g, elev - JR NX3421 x 2 = 60g, rudd - JR/DFA 3911 = 34g, throttle - JR HV169 = 22g.

Total = 184g. Take out the throttle servo and it's 162g.
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Thanks for the info, guys. My intention is to stick with the Ditex, if feasible. I did not find the 2211, but I do see the 2612S, which weighs in at 65g with 368oz/26.5kg/cm. I will probably go for this one.
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Anyone has any real time experience with the Ditex EL line? Tight gear train? Reliability? Servo accuracy?

Thanks
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question?

I am using the Ditex servos on my Proteus, and when I went into device explorer and converted the alternate pin output from servo to ditex, I can now see the telemetry and the servo works, but the transmitter beeps this:






and, it will do each one, one by one, (pins) that are ditex.

Why is it doing this?
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Originally Posted by orthobird
question?

I am using the Ditex servos on my Proteus, and when I went into device explorer and converted the alternate pin output from servo to ditex, I can now see the telemetry and the servo works, but the transmitter beeps this:






and, it will do each one, one by one, (pins) that are ditex.

Why is it doing this?
that means you have set more channels to have ditex and they are not connected.
i get this message when i do not connect the wings.
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thank you so much, good idea

I will go and do one at a time, and see if the problem persists.

that way, i can detect which one I am doing that is wrong.

be back soon to tell you
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Old 03-13-2021, 07:28 AM
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yes sir, you were correct. thank you so much for helping me.

Very gracious of you.

I wish you a great weekend.
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Another question,

this servo telemetry is awesome!!

so what is considered a bad servo temp?


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