rmh

Maybe I better reword this - Do you not think it would be advantageous to know the power remaining in the motor power packs?
Especially if you are using a setup with a BEC?
The tests I have run show easy to follow voltage drop in these setups
Even in the A123 power systems I have used -

cloudancer03

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i DONT WORRY ABOUT BROWNOUTS ANYMORE NOT SINCE SWITCHING BACK TO FUTABA!

Silent-AV8R

If you are unable to determine how to use a simple timer to estimate remaining capacity, then perhaps telemetry might be good to have. Then again if the complexity of a timer is too much to handle I wonder if telemetry is within one's grasp.

pilotpete2

Dick,
The 2M floater I'm holding has flown for 5 years, using the same 2000mAh 3S Lipo. I allow 3:30 of motor run per flight. I run one timer controlled by the throttle for the motor run time count down and the second timer controlled by the throttle lock switch. On one occasion I was up a full 2 hours, using the 3:30 of climb time. When I landed, I put the battery on the Cellpro 4 and found I was still over 20% of capacity. I would strongly advise anyone who flies thermal, to avoid flying to LVC.
As an older guy who suffers from presbyopia, that is, one who walks around with reading glasses on their head[&o]. I really love the timer zoom function on the 8FG and 12FG radios. I can actually glance down and instantly read the timers without my glasses[8D]
All my electrics are timed with the throttle, I set the duration of the flight based on shorter test flights to get the time that results in using a little less than 80% of capacity. I never fly to where the LVC kicks in.
Pete

mike1974

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Good Grief. I never had a problem with my EXPERT radio, I never had a problem with my two Futaba radios (6XHS & 7CHP) and I have yet to have a problem with my DX8. What I DO have a problem with is paying 115.00 more for the 8FG, plus paying more for the Spektrum module so I can fly BNF planes and helis and paying alot more for Futaba branded receivers vs. Spektrum branded receivers.With the money I would have spent on the 8FG and Spektrum module Ibought a DX8,equiped an airplaneAND a heli with a DSMX receiver w/ sat. receiver and telemetry with RPM sensors and also equiped a 450 heli with a park flyer Spektrum receiver.

There are also certain failsafe features that will not work with radios using the spektrum modules. I also don't believe DSMX is available for the modules yet; only DSM2.

Futaba makes great radios and I like Futaba,but when it comesto the best bang for your buck, IMHO,they are laggingWAY behind. Their customer service could use an overhaul also. So, while some people think telemetry may be"gimmicky",I say "who cares" because I can have a radio,the "gimmick" and three aircraft flying for the same orless than one 8FGwith Spektrum module. Just my .02

Kostas1

What's that "telemetry" thing ? Voltage monitoring ?

TimBle

This a chaton telemetry, not the pricing structure of various brands. BTW< the T8FG is not module compatible so I have no idea what you're talking about

BuschBarber

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Telemetry - Sensors installed in the Rx and Aircraft that transmit various parameters back to the Tx, such as Rx voltage, Engine rpm, Fuel remaining, Engine head temp, etc. These features are already being offered by Hitec and Spektrum.

GerKonig

Com on now! That is not a nice comment to make! Next thing you will tell us is that you do not use 6 satellite receivers (just in case) like some other (unnamed) brand people do... I am sure you did hurt some people's feelings...

Gerry

BuschBarber

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Such is the behavior of a Brand Zelot!!

rmh

Do you post , just to use your sister's computer ?

rmh

My powered glider setup does not lend it's self to timer use
The model is a camera plane -and will be flying low altitude "racetrack "courses - Being able to monitor low voltage spikes seems like a good idea -
Here is the model- The two motors increase actual thrust capabilities by about 75% over the stock setup (They will pull 300 watts at full tilt)
Pete - I don't use glasses now - Libby just nudges me right -or left.

Charlie P.

Nope. Haven't heard any rumors that Futaba is working on telemetry for their products.

There, was that so hard?

As a PS - I'd be interested in heat temp and engine RPM, but not if Ihad to add a lot of weight to the model. Iam proactive for the battery and fuel - making sure Istart with enough before a flight that I won't have to worry during a flight. If something fails slowly on a model looking away to figure what the alarm means may not be the best practice. If they get it down to an idiot light typewarning Imight be interested.

Silent-AV8R

FWIW, there are in fact rumors of Futaba coming out with telemetry. No idea when or what, but Robbe in Europe had a logo with the word "Telemetrie" (or something like that) on it a while ago.

DougV

Here you go:

mike1974

My Feedback: (1)

This a chaton telemetry, not the pricing structure of various brands. BTW< the T8FG is not module compatible so I have no idea what you're talking about
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My bad. I did not realize that it was not module compatible. This just lends to my argument, though.Highradio prices, high receiver prices, no telemetryand no BNF aircraft without high end radio and Spektrum module. And my DX8 "just works". I amNOT bashing Futaba; I like Futaba.I amjust trying to point out where I think they are going to start losing market share and why I do not beleive they are anywhere close tobeing thebest bang for the buck..

Silent-AV8R

That's the one. I have that someplace on my computer, I was just too lazy to look for it!! Thanks.

Kostas1

Thank's Rich...

iflyj3

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You are correct, but any channels over 1 are not necessary either to fly a model airplane.

I flew for years with only one channel and no throttle control either.

If you don't want to use it or buy it so be it. However, let us make up our mind as to whether we want it or not. If there is no market, the manufacturers will quit making it.

TimBle

My bad. I did not realize that it was not module compatible. This just lends to my argument, though.Highradio prices, high receiver prices, no telemetryand no BNF aircraft without high end radio and Spektrum module. And my DX8 "just works". I amNOT bashing Futaba; I like Futaba.I amjust trying to point out where I think they are going to start losing market share and why I do not beleive they are anywhere close tobeing thebest bang for the buck..

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Again I don't know what the point is you are trying to make.
Futaba is a big brand with a huge GLOBAL market share. They are the number 1 seller in Europe and not far behind Horizon in the US. Well over half of competition pilots, those are the guys who actually fly ALOT and demnad the very best from their equipment, fly Futaba.
THat Futaba is not into BNF is because they are an Automation company specialising in control systems for industrial application and Radio Control for hobbyists. BNFis a HOrizon Hobby offering, notspektrum or JR. Horizon packages a radio with a model.
You are confusing your perception with fact.

Lots of people who talk RC and crash a lot fly Spektrum. The guys out winning and teaching usually fly Futaba.

Loose market share do to not having telemetrie at this moment.....??!! Thats a bit like Volkswagen loosing market share to Ford because Ford uses a push button start and VW still uses a key..... no ain';t gonna happen because the people who buy Futaba don;t buy into gimmicks. They're serious people and are serious about their equipment and airplanes. They don't fall for gimmicks.

cpeisher

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Seems like a great addition to the features of our radios.  There will be some growing pains, but in the end, it will most likely become a standard feature on new radios, i.e. servo reversing, mixing etc...

rmh

[quote]ORIGINAL: TimBle


[quote]ORIGINAL: mike1974


Lots of people who talk RC and crash a lot fly Spektrum. The guys out winning and teaching usually fly Futaba.

You could not be further off the mark if you wanted to be .
Perhaps in your own corner of the your world that is true
In our world - the overall sales ratios are far different.
For the record - I am very familiar with which equipment is used in powered aerobatic competition

AndyKunz

Fact: Spektrum IS Horizon Hobby.

Fact: Parkzone IS Horizon Hobby.

Fact: Blade IS Horizon Hobby.

Fact: E-Flite IS Horizon Hobby.

We work in the same building, eat lunch together, have Donut Fridays together, develop products together, get paid on the same day, receive paychecks with the same name and signatures on them. And guess what - we even fly together!

THOSE are facts.

Andy

Silent-AV8R

I do not recall telling people not to use it or saying that it should not be offered. I only gave my opinion on it. Various levels of telemetry have been available for some time, but suddenly it is a must have. That is my only observation.

rmh

Donut Friday?
If I stop by, I'll take a fresh cake donut -smothered in Adams chunky peanut butter -and dark chockit
(lo-cal please)
Make that two of em