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Old 11-19-2009 | 10:33 PM
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hi im looking for a crawler/sacler mostly scaler but i cant decide on the wheely king or Tamiya 1/10 Toyota Land Cruiser 40 CC-01 Kit
with minor upgrades it needs to be able to go in water also.if those arnt good though any other opinions except axial.
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If you want scale, then I'd go with the cc01. It's VERY scale
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Old 11-20-2009 | 05:55 PM
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yes thats what ive beentinking but is it quality? also does it break often? if i do purchase that item what are the first upgrades i should do?
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Yes, Tamiya makes some of the highest quality RCs out there. A friend of mine owns one. It's very durable, especially since the land cruiser version uses a lexan body(my friend's is a hard body Pajero). Since it doesn't really have any weak parts, I'd recommend some grippier tires to help with crawling/offroading. It uses 1.9 size wheels and tires.
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okay now if i wanted to go in water,snow,or mud would i do good? also would this compete good at scale trail runs
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personally i would sacrifice just a little of the scale of the cc01 and go for the scx10, its much more capable. and scince it has sealed bearings and comes with an electroincs box alls you would have to do to take it in water would be to put your electronics in the box and seal it with some silicon!

the sealed bearings and supperior axles will make a big difference and scince the bearings are sealed they dont need any oil, and the internaly of the bearings wont rust
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personally i would sacrifice just a little of the scale of the cc01 and go for the scx10, its much more capable. and scince it has sealed bearings and comes with an electroincs box alls you would have to do to take it in water would be to put your electronics in the box and seal it with some silicon!

the sealed bearings and supperior axles will make a big difference and scince the bearings are sealed they dont need any oil, and the internaly of the bearings wont rust
Ever driven a cc01? I have, it's a VERY capable offroad and at crawling. As far as bearings go, the cc01 comes with bushings, so no rust. When you want upgrade to ball bearings, you can choose whatever level of protection that you want. BTW, unless your "superior" axles are stainless, you still need to oil them after getting them wet.
You can get the same (if not better) protection of a electronics box with a handful of balloons and zipties. That's what most people do when they want to take their RCs in the water. If you really wanted a radio box that you could waterproof, they go for as little as about $5.
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These are for boats, so they are made to keep water out.
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ORIGINAL: wheelykingboy

okay now if i wanted to go in water,snow,or mud would i do good? also would this compete good at scale trail runs
Stock tires aren't so good with traction, but with a set of better tires you should do fine.
http://www.rc4wdstore.com/2/index.ph...acturers_id=14
I'd recommend Mud Slingers or Crazy Krawlers.
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I have to agree with the previous post. I would go with an SCX10. It is very capable and can still be made to look extremely scale with a little time and effort. However, a note on the "sealed" bearings....you will still need to take the seals off the bearings and clean them out with some motor spray, then re-lube them. I've had mine in water and mud countless times and the water does still get into the bearings. I found this out the hard way by getting my truck wet, then the next time I went to run it one of the bearings was almost completely seized with rust. Another note...when you put your axles together on any truck that will see water you'll want to seal them up good with silicone. That will help keep water out so you'll have to strip your axles down less often to clean and grease.
You can seal up the RX box on the scx10 pretty easily but I wouldn't reccomend putting your ESC in a box like that because it could overheat. I use a Novak Rooster crawler esc that says it is "splashproof" but I've had it completely submerged for several minutes at a time on numerous occasions and a drop of water has never gotten inside the case.
As for waterproof steering servos, you can use a traxxas waterproof servo...but the plastic gears in them don't last very long if you are hard on it. I dip my servo's in plasti-coat, then put an O-ring behind the servo-horn to help keep water from getting in around the splines. It works pretty well...but after long periods of being submerged I still notice a little water in mine from time to time.
Hope some of these ideas help.
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Yes, if you are solely looking for a crawler, the scx10 would be better, but for trail driving or general offroading, you have the disadvantage of having no differentials. With both permanently locked axles, it will have a larger turning radius and it takes more to turn it. The cc01 has front and rear diffs and includes a removable rear locker, so you can lock the rear for extra traction without sacrificing steering of a locked front. If you ever wanted to, there are reversible ways to lock the front. Its shorter wheelbase also helps to reduce the turning radius.

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