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Old 02-05-2014 | 05:08 PM
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Women see more shades of colors than men do or can. It seems as though in reds for instance women are more able to see variations in the shade etc. of reds. I was watching a program where 8 color cards where presented. Men would typically pick a difference in 4 or 5 at the most. Women on the other hand picked all 8 cards as being different. Which they were.
There has been a lot of research on cross-cultural color differences (for example, my Mexican wife calling something "yellow" that I would call "green") and this has also included studies of male/female differences in color-naming experiments. Most researchers feel this does not represent any fundamental difference in the actually ability to "see" color differences. For example, other experiments seem to show that subjects are equally able to visually distinguish one color card from another...even though they may not have difference color names to distinguish the two. In other words, difference cultures may use different color words but all humans seem to have fundamentally the same color vision. By the way, there is a language from northern Africa that technically only has two "color" words: "Light" and "dark." Of course the people who speak this language are just as able to see colors as anyone else; they just doesn't obsess about the differences.

There are, however, some researchers who feel there many be a biologic basis for the differences in male/female color-naming abilities. Some genetic evidence exists that females (or some females) may have 4-pigment vision (vs. regular 3-pigment vision).

I was thinking after I posted my earlier reply how many scale judges are color blind? I would guess that over the years at least some were. Who's to know? I doubt if any judges are tested for it lol.
And how many could tell you what color "teal" is!
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You may have a "note from the doctor" ( ) but I think a lot of modelers are just blind to color variations in the same way that non-musicians (like me) are "tone-deaf" to musical subtleties. Before you can see a difference, you have to care about a difference.
Yes... you are absolutely correct. Some modelers don't care which is fine for them. I turned down a 'full ride' art scholarship due to my color deficiency but do have perfect pitch. When I painted portraits folks would ask why I made fleshtones green (or whatever). I couldn't 'see' what they were talking about and I cared very much about my art work. Once I covered a Cub in both yellow and Cub yellow Monokote. I never knew I had two different colors until the airplane was put in the sunlight! It was pretty funny! I'm a '6 percenter' in that I'm deuteranomalous... green deficient. My favorite color is green especially when surrounded by pink! It is very rare for women to have color deficiencies but it happens (~0.03%). The cone receptors that make up a portion of the retina are the same for males and females (other than the defective ones in males). Of course... in the end it's all a psychological process!

Here are a couple of kites I made. They are Tyvek with Sharpie pen in pointillism style of G.Seurat. No worries about color with black ink!
Old 02-05-2014 | 06:07 PM
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I turned down a 'full ride' art scholarship due to my color deficiency....
Who knows what great art you might have created. Color isn't everything in art. It's not even the main thing.

By the way, one of the weirdest color perception phenomena I've heard of is where people "see" different letters of the alphabet in different colors. This condition is called "synaesthesia." Some with this condition have claimed it has actually helped them remember words and spellings.

http://otherthings.com/uw/syn/

So how would this work if these people spoke (or learned) a language with a non-alphabetic script (such as Chinese with its thousand of characters) or scripts where each letter has three different shapes (initial, medial, and final) as in Arabic?
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ARUP, here's a version of my SE5a photo especially for you! It also avoids that pesky PC10/12 argument.
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Old 02-06-2014 | 05:16 PM
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Man... that looks like the real deal! The only 'give-a-way' is the grass. Or, is this a photo of an SE that was forced to land in a cornfield? Yeah... that's it!
Old 02-06-2014 | 11:52 PM
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I really lucked out on the little window of spring weather that I had for the re-maiden. Since then it's been either raining or snowing or both. I would have flown the Puppeteer in this weather but not the SE5a.
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Old 02-07-2014 | 08:31 AM
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Abu, beautiful setting---brrrrr. Id say glad I'm in Texas but it's been much the same this winter, I'm thoroughly worn out on it.lol It hasn't gotten over 40 F for days, though tomorrow is rumored to be warming. Fingers crossed, airplane charged.
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Doc, no flying this weekend!
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Hey Don. On those cold days in Switz. we used to put skis on our birds...the crystals would start to freeze up and act funny under 32 dergrees though
snow yuk
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That's one hearty soul on the scooter. brrrrrrrrr
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Hey Don. On those cold days in Switz. we used to put skis on our birds...the crystals would start to freeze up and act funny under 32 dergrees though
snow yuk
I draw the line at flying while it's actually still snowing. But I did fly the Puppeteer a few times with a bit of snow on the ground...not enough to need skis though! Actually, today the skies are blue and even though yesterday's snow is still on the ground, I could have driven to the flying field. But I didn't bother charging up last night figuring today would be more of the same.

But I should do something on such a beautiful day. I do most of my building in the evening when the light of day is gone.

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It was indeed a fine day. And I could have flown (had I charged my batteries). But I did this instead.
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The SE5a should be good to go next weekend.
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Snow and valleys reminds me a lot of Switz.....But I sincerely hope I never see another flake of snow again!!!...scraping windshields til the end of May gets to be a drag....
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Having never lived in serious "snow country" for me it's still magical. And I don't have to drive to work in it! The new club's flying field is on the other side of a mountain range and I rather assumed that the pass might be closed for a day. It turns out it wasn't. More than likely, however, the last couple of hundred meters to the flying site itself might have been impassible mud and slush. I don't imagine anyone was there.
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I finally got someone to take some flying shots. The wind was OK today but gusting at about 45 degrees across the strip so the landings were precarious. The model is finally flying well and I'm starting to get a feel for it. It's not exactly a hands-off type model and it's definitely sensitive on the rudder...which will eventually be a good thing. But I'd call it a good flyer.

I also had a chance to extend the safe flying time step-by-step to a full 10 minutes. It would probably go for 15 if I kept my thumb off the throttle. I was flying it a bit faster than I'd really like to, but with the bouncy wind I didn't trust myself let it put along on idle.
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Now that's what we're talking about !

What a pretty site to see! That is definitely where that model belongs - up in the air, flying........not decorating someone's den.
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I feel this is going to be a fine weekend flyer. Not a model for all weather, but a fine, fine-weather flyer.
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Very nice !
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Sweet. Is it like the smaller se5's I've flown? Tip stalls very easily? I wrecked one because I let it get too slow on approach. Typical dumb mistake for me.
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BTW, yours looks absolutely beautiful. I'm very happy for you that your getting it dialed in. Have fun with it.
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She looks marvelous Don, great presence in the air. You're going to enjoy this one a lot.
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She looks marvelous Don, great presence in the air. You're going to enjoy this one a lot.
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Sure does. This is my favorite shot of the group.......

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That's mine too. Looks nice n scale.
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The photos are just so so. None of the guys at the field are very proficient with a camera. Of the dozens of photos taken yesterday only a handful were in focus and only a handful of those were more than tiny specks in the sky (despite the fact that the camera had a 300mm lens). Of the resulting compositions above are the result of my extensive cropping.

And it's not just the photographer's fault. It's very hard to take interesting photos of a model that's just flying in level circles. I would have needed to be making more aggressive type turns cutting at 45 degrees to the flight line, more dives and climbs, more everything. And I would need to bring the model lower and slower...both of which I was hesitant to do yesterday.
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Well they looked great and dont worry about doing a lot of stuff till you've become comfortable with the airplane. Get familiar with it first then you can wring it out.
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