Finished painting up the Tiger crew.

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Gary

Looks good in B&W but I see panzerwest in your near future!


What rail line is that on the map? YHR?

Ok well here we go... I take it these are Heer and not SS correct? remove the pink piping from around the collars and lapels, also remove the pink piping from the m43 cap, only officers had any kind of piping around the crown of the m43 caps and it was silver denoteing an officer also nothing around the beak of the m43 cap as well . The panzer wrappers should have pink piped black collar tabs with silver skulls on them. Major should have litzen on his collar

Don't take this the wrong way but. AAAAAAH its the figure natzi! LOL I love the Info you have to offer. I learn alot from it. I suck at paintng so I don't dare do my crew till I am profecient to paint them. And I would be afraid to post them only for fear of a looong post from ya LOL.

I think the railroad is the SF&WB express. (soggy feet & wet Butt) from its location. A good way to make a map is to take a real one, photograph it and cut it down to 1;16 on your color printer, or photograph it again. . Verlinden makes really nice maps. Even the 1;35 would look good and represent a smaller scale map.

or if you can get you hands on am acual topographic map, scan it, scale it and print it out. I am a topographic engineer and its not hard to do. hmmmmm. maybe i can make a side business of acually making maps for scale models.. thinking thinking..... muhahahahaha... lol.. sorry, have not have my coffie yet.. :P

what figures are you using as i have been trying to find some good looking figures for my tigers.

YHR.... I told you! lol


Nice info pzrwest.

The only reason I post info on the uniforms is to help not criticize a persons work. Other's here point out things that could be done to make tanks more accurate and I do appreciate their input as it helps me with my tanks. So I guess maybe I should just not make any further comments and just let people do what they want to do

No, don't stop giving us your help, there just funning with you, I looked very hard last year for your kind of info and spent hours on this computer doing searches for color pics on German and Russian uniforms.

If YHR doesn't like what you say about his work he'll tell you

Gary

Ok cool I will continue to help out as alot of people have helped me. If it wasn't for other people picking out my mistakes I would have never corrected them. I know some might call it nit picking minor details and all but we all can learn something new every day.
I know you can find pictures with odd or different insignia etc but they are the exception best to go with the norm as we call it

Hi pzrwest

I personally appreciate Your input and knowledge very much, so please, do continue Your valuable help with this field of our hobby.

At least I can handle criticalnes concerning my work. As I like my "makings" to look as convincing as possible with realistic amount of work.

Yours,

RR

Pzrwest,

Keep making comments! Some people slap 'em together and run 'em. Other like to detail the heck out of everything. Your info is vital for those who want to get it right.

I guess I look at it this way a person spends a lot of time and research and then detailing their tank and it looks like a masterpiece then forget to do the same for the figure .... to me that would be like super detailing, painting, and weathering their masterpiece then putting a "Lego" figure on it just seems to take away from all their hard and fantastic work

YHR the figures look great... nice work.

Pzrwest... keep the info coming. I have a seperate folder that I have saved links to all your uniform posts for when I do my figures and appreciate the information. Please accept the remarks concerning your inevitable posts to uniform questions as a compliment.

By all means, Harold, KEEP giving us the Info!! Your DAK post in the War Room came at exactly the right time. I'll try to make my figures as "close" as I can to the correct versions. (These eyes though aren't quite what what they used to be, -- and neither are these fingertips. I can "convert" scale figures like crazy, but the really fine detail stuff is a bit hard.) Still, any modeller with the desire and ability SHOULD be able to produce as "accurate" a figure as he wishes to.

By the way, what colour is "Panzer Pink"?? Do I have to mix it? (If you check the photos of my Mark IV, you'll notice there's no "Insignia". That's because I HATE that part of the job.....!)

You better not![] We count on you for the correct info on uniforms and other things, and we like it and need it! We would be lost without your knowledge! I was just joking with YHR, I hope I did not offend you? It was all meant in fun.

I am not the least bit offended by critiscm. My only rant would be on those that critique but never contribute. PZwest, you have pointed out inaccuracies that I thought I had right. I am so confused. Heer, SS, general, M43 cap ?????? What the heck. I don't know. I just started modeling tanks a year ago. I hear what you are saying and to some degree I agree, but it is not my nature to spend much time worrying about these kind of things. Sooner or later I will get it right. This attempt is closer then my last one. Maybe my next one will be right

YHR I'll make it simple SS the eagle is on the sleeve, Heer(army) the eagle on the breast. I took the man in the copula as a major or col as a general wouldn't be in the tank, the man in the loaders hatch is wearing the m43 cap. As for the 2 wearing peaked caps they are called crusher caps as they are not regular peaked caps. Regular peaked caps have braided chin cords or in the case of an em/nco a leather chin strap. The crusher cap has a soft leather peak instead of the hard fiber one. It is ment to be able to be flexible and can be stuffed into a pocket where the regular officers style cap can't. Also SS have black band on the peaked and crusher caps where the Heer have a dark green band. SS have a skull below the eagle on the band Heer have a wreath and cockade below the eagle on the band.

My 2 cents:

YHR I believe you did a fine job relative to were your at today in regards to your growing artist skill vs the very difficult art of 120mm – 1/16 scale figure painting.

Words only go so far, pzrwest. The man offering a critique on a figure, I suppose should master his profession or at least be a student of the art, before offering an opinion.

A military uniform historian is only kinda of helpful, but offers no solutions on how to use a triple zero fine sable brush and how to get it steady and how to make it all happen in a good manner, etc, etc.

You seem to always leave that part out pzrwest. Can you paint a figure as well as YHR? Or better? Have you painted figures before? Why not show us your skill level?

pzrwest please consider: "There can be tension between constructive and useful criticism; for instance, a critic might usefully help an individual artist to recognize what is poor or slapdash in their body of work—but the critic may have to appear harsh and judgmental in order to state this. But useful criticism is a practical part of constructive criticism." So, I understand where your coming from, but suspect your qualifications to do so, a little bit.

In the narrow world of military figure painting you kinda have something to offer, pzrwest, but you would be taken more seriously if you actually presented some military figure work and dropped your neo nazi appearance to this community.

For sure, the cops would be pretty mean to you where I live in, if you appeared in public (like your image) and you know that too, ksoc.

The 1/1 scale nazi uniform is hated around the free world.

But, since your undocumented military figure painting skill is yet to be determined and if you have never used a triple zero sable brush to try and paint pink uniform piping, I suggest you tone it down and be less defensive and more positive. A professional critique starts with 3 sentances of what is good, if anything and then say what sucks.

And read some more pzrwest, there were many senior panzer officers on both German fronts commanding large units from tank cupolas including Waffen-SS Colonel Joachim Peiper in his Panther.

By the way, Peiper was murdered in a fire attack on his house on July 13, 1976, probable WWII pay back.

Good job YHR and keep at it. A model is an impression of reality and can take many style forms to achieve an illusion. True accuracy is not the most important aspect of producing a cool model and virtually impossible to do anyway. LOL

John

Your figure pcomm1 is great, ss camo is very hard to do, nicely depicts an SS gunner. I will take some pics of some verlinden figures I have done up and post them. As for the actual painting I leave that up to the painter as to what brush size whether it be a 000 or other size. What types of paint they use is their personal choice. I prefer to use enamels over acrylics but that is just my personal choice. People research their tanks for details to make them more accurate why not do the same for the figures.
I do not profess to be a NAZI nor do I believe in their docturn. As a Canadian I have the right to live free and we have no laws here on re-enacting other than we comply with all firearm regulations. Here not like the US we have to take safety courses and pass them then apply for a permits to buy or even possess a firearm. Unlike the US where almost anyone can purchase a fire arm. Here firearm offences are very stiff you could get up to 10 years in Jail.
What is the difference between re-enacting German or American, Civil War, Roman etc. I do not deny that atrocities were commited in WW2 by the Germans. Look what we, US and Canada did to our native peoples no one is squeeky clean.
I don't know why you have to attack me publically this way.

Here are some pics of my figures. Need a better camera these were just taken with an older Kodak EasyShare 1.2 megapixel
The first is an officer from a Calvary unit
Second is an infantryman from the Grossdeutschland Regt
Third is an infantryman from the DAK(Afrika Corps)
Last 2 pics of an SS nco wearing a camo smock

Come on guys. No harm done, and maybe I haven't seen pzrwests figurine painting, but I have been priviledged to view his work on other things and therefor he passes my critique code.

Pcomm thanks for the words of encouragement, and I do agree with your statements about offering constructive critsicm. I am thick skinned and have been modeling and sharing my work for years. I don't think I could be offended if someone tried!!!!!, however someone starting out could be discouraged with negative comments.

I would most certainly like to consider you both friends, and get back doing constructive things to grow this hobby.

You know when I was painting these, I figured pzrwest might have something to say. I darn near went back to the computer to check what I might be doing wrong, but like I said, I was happy with what I did, and I figured Harold would set me straight. He taught me the difference between regular army and SS, so I learned something new.

Next time I might get it right

I bought these from pugwash on ebay. They come in a box with three half figures and one full figure. I cut them all at the waist line and set metal screws in the top half of the body. The one waist down casting has a magnet set flush in the waist. This allows me to alternate poses with all the top halfs.