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where the shermans that they said where coming ,are they ever going to come thanks rye

The foundries and factories are working night and day! You may have noticed steel and rubber prices going up?

The tanks won't be sent to the front piecemeal. Once the last one is built and tested, they'll all be packaged for shipment to battlezones all across world! D-Day is a distinct possibility but everyone knows these tanks were shunned until late July...

Just give me a box of parts. I'm gonna rip the VVSS off of it anyway.

where"s the beef at the BINGO

Yes it took the plucky Brits to put a decent Big-Cat gun in them, the gun you Yanks refused to mount! But the GIs were only too pleased to see those few Fireflies when their 76mm Shermans were going up like Ronsons!

Yes, the Ordnance QF 17 pounder was a fearsome weapon. The 76mm didn't catch up in performance until the HVAP rounds came out. I prefer the M7 Oldsmobile 3" Naval Gun used in the M10 TDs myself.

Just be glad you're not speaking German right now dude. That is what's important, not second guessing decisions.

I couldn't agree more with you, without the yanks us Brits would have been screwed, my late father (RAF) was assigned to the Mighty 8th during WW2 and he never ever let us forget it.

Well I think everyone had a hand it in, not just one country. Sacrifices were made and paid for dearly.

Riiight...I suppose I should be worshipping the US for that? given that Germans never had any real intention of invading; even in 1940/41 when at full strength, Sealion was nothing more than a propaganda stunt and the RAF single-handedly devastated the Luftwaffe. By the time the US got involved (and only after you had been attacked), German strength was concentrated in the East where the REAL war was always destined to be thought. The Western and Mediterranean fronts were side-shows next to that cataclysm...

It's also worth mentioning that time and again, the US forces (who refused to study seasoned British tactics) were badly mauled - murdered at Kasserine by the remnants of Rommel's DAK, shot to pieces over Germany in foolhardy daylight rays and torpedoed without mercy in the 'Second Happy Time' by obsolete U-boats.

Our saviors.

"Riiight...I suppose I should be worshipping the US for that?" No, not at all. We just cleaned up the mess and provided the material. Sounds like you don't appreciate the sacrifices soldiers/airman/sailors of all countries did. And since we're talking about World War II history the Brits and French could have prevented it at the very beginning...Your PM Neville Chamberlain signed away the Sudetenland to Hilter, some would say that encouraged Hilter to be more bold. Or how about when Germany marched into the Rhineland....where were the Brits and French? And lets not forget that Britian and France had a treaty/pact with Poland that if Poland were invaded by Germany the British and French would come to her aid....but there was no aid was there? We had the Phony war, historians/scholars/even German generals agree that if Britian and France would have invaded Germany when Poland was invaded then World War II would be over....but instead we have untold deaths. Yeah we don't want your worship nor deserve it...just your respect.

Duane

Everyone - British, French, Americans, and (ahem) Canadians, would have had a REALLY rough time in Northwest Europe if it weren't for the Russians standing up to Hitler. Most historians now estimate 9 million military KIA's among them *... many times the combined Western total. I hate to imagine what would have happened had the Russians declared a "Separate Peace". Just think of all the armour, artillery, troops, etc that the Germans threw against the Red Army being turned on us Western Allies instead....... []

*The same sources estimate an additional 18 million Russian civilians were also killed, for a final toll of 27 million.

Every soldier that lost their life deserves the respect of the societies that threw them into the conflict.

We can argue about who did more, or less, but what does it matter. Millions of lives were lost. That is the story, not who arrived early or late. Sacrificies were made and family trees changed forever. I am thankful and respectful for every last one of them. There are no innocent, there are no best, all there is death and destruction. That is what we should remember and recall. So lets get back to talking model tanks and the new Sherman release.

I am a Canadian because my father (RAF) became a band of brothers with the Canadians he served with. When the war was over he moved to Canada to be with them.

Let's see if I can get permission to release the box art... [:-]

I'll take just a plain brown box with all the parts just thrown in!

I am very aware of the history and sacrifices made by all the allies in defeating the world of the malignant cancer of National Socialism. But what annoys we in when triumphant Americans say things like "If it weren't be us you'd be speaking German now."

Respect is earned not bestowed. Just because many Americans sacrificed everything then, doesn't mean every American today isn't automatically entitled to that respect purely for being American. Learn your history!!!

I've read that less than 10% of German soldiers ever encountered a Brit or American and that more than 90% of the German forces were in the East. The problem is western campaigns such as D-Day or Market Garden have been sensationalized by Hollywood while the Russian effort has been largely ignored. Too many people seem to think that nothing happened in continental Europe between Dunkirk and D-Day.

Nope, no one said that! It was more like "Just be glad you're not speaking German right now dude." It wasn't directly aimed at you but you just read into it all wrong.

There some in American's who know their history.  Can you say that most Europeans know theirs?  By the way the Europeans have raced to tear down their own defenses, I doubt it.  After all the talk of a European Defense force, they couldn't even handle a skirmish in their own backyard.  To bad many have forgotten the lesson of WW II and the Cold War -  The best way to avoid a war is to leave no doubt in the other sides mind that if attacked you have the WILL and the ABILITY to fight back.<div>
</div><div>Let us not forget the pre-war deals that Stalin made with Hitler, and that he killed more Russians than the Germans did.  While Mother Russia may have supplied the bodies, it was the US/UK and others that suppled a lot of war materials a critical point in the war, and the Allied supply convoys (North Sea, Persia, etc...) that had to fight to get the supplies through.</div><div>
</div><div>.............. Back on topic... WHERE ARE THE SHERMANS.  Just get the things out there!  They can be upgraded in the field, just like the larger cousins were</div>

Thats one hell of a chip that has been knocked off your shoulder pal , no ones asking you to hero worship the yanks, but if it wasnt for the Americans Industrial might, and yes, their human sacrifice, we would have been unable to defeat Germany on our own, and thats a fact.

With a foot in both the US and UK camps, and even having spent some time in the Soviet Union during the communist era, I'd just like to add that it would be great to see the box art.

Thanks angusx:</p>

And all this started off with a simple question: Where are the Shermans?</p>

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