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Old 11-22-2009, 04:29 PM
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Capt. Winters

Thanks I will try again.
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:24 AM
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Black drape that looks really good, nice job.
Old 11-23-2009, 01:09 PM
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Black Drape ,

Very nice looking Hellcat. Looking to get my first ARF Warbird for a winter project. I really like the F8F Bearcat and the F6F Hellcat. Which one flys better? I'm no stranger to giant scale planes but have never owned or for that matter flown a warbird. I've been looking at the ESM warbirds for a 26-30cc gasser.
Old 11-23-2009, 06:44 PM
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Hey Guys

I haven't flown it yet, I only have one run on the engine. Our flying season is about over for this year so probably won't get a chance to fly it till next spring. I am currently putting an ESM BF110 together. Can't say that I am overly impressed with the kit. It has a ton of pieces missing, most of which I was able to make myself, but some I will have to call on. Pretty much everyone in this thread seems to think the Hellcat flies well, and there some great videos of the guys fling it. I haven't heard much about the ESM Models yet.

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Old 11-25-2009, 12:31 AM
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Black Drape, You did a great job on your Hellcat. Now that is some motivation to get this project completed and not sit on the workbench all winter. Those are some great pics of your plane and that great looking flying field. Keep those pics coming guys. Capt. Winters
Old 12-02-2009, 11:11 AM
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HERE ARE SOME PICS OF MY CMP HELLCAT FROM NITRO PLANES THAT WAS DAMAGED . WITHOUT BEING RUDE TOWARDS ANYONE WITHIN THERE COMPANY I AM HAVING TTOUBLE GETTING A NEW ONE AS I WAS TOLD. WHATS A GUY TO DO?
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Old 12-02-2009, 06:38 PM
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Bryant50 go to this forum it might be of some help. I have heard that they do respond to requests there.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8956324/tm.htm
Old 12-07-2009, 04:49 PM
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I'M GLAD U GUYS ARE ENJOYING ALL THOSE CMP HELLCATS CAUSE I CANT SEEMED TO GET MINE REPLACED WITH A NEW ONE THE PACKAGE AND THE KIT BOX WAS NOT DAMAGED .....BUT STILL I WAT CAUSE NITRO PLANES SAID THEY FILE A CLAIM WITH UPS .... I THINK THEY JUST DONT CARE ABOUT THERE CUSTOMERS....
Old 12-07-2009, 05:00 PM
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You can PM John ( nitrostaff1 ) over on the Nitroplanes support forums, but if that is the extent of the damage, it is not worth doing this.

Instead fix the broken former with epoxy, and paint over the chipped area. It will be quicker and easier than trying to deal with a replacement.

Old 12-11-2009, 12:09 PM
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OPJOSE I COULD FIX THE FUSE WITH NO PROBLEM THAT IS TRUE BUT WING WAS BADLY DAMAGED...BUT I CALL UPS MYSELF THE PLANE ON UPS ITS ON ITS WAY BACK ... HOPEFULY I WILL GET MY NEW ONE NEXT WEEK...
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Hey Guys, I am ready to glass my wing, but do not have the retracts. I was going to go for the Lado's but they are no longer an option as they are history. I am back to Seirra's retracts but am short on funds to purchase them at this time. Question 1, Anyone out there have a new pair they would be willing to trade for. I have several new in box arfs or complete planes. question 2 Do they drop in, or does the wing need to be modified for them to fit. I helped a good friend of mine, user name Canfieldnosedive put some in his plane acouple of years ago, pics on this thread, but for the life of me I can not remember, Huh, 48 years old and I'm having a senior moment. Ha Ha Any help out there? Thank you Capt. Winters
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Hey Guys, I am ready to glass my wing, but do not have the retracts. I was going to go for the Lado's but they are no longer an option as they are history. I am back to Seirra's retracts but am short on funds to purchase them at this time. Question 1, Anyone out there have a new pair they would be willing to trade for. I have several new in box arfs or complete planes. question 2 Do they drop in, or does the wing need to be modified for them to fit. I helped a good friend of mine, user name Canfieldnosedive put some in his plane acouple of years ago, pics on this thread, but for the life of me I can not remember, Huh, 48 years old and I'm having a senior moment. Ha Ha Any help out there? Thank you Capt. Winters
Hey Capt. I have a set that though I don't want to let go I can give you any measurement that you might need. No they don't drop right in in fact I cut out all the mount that was in the wing and made new maple blocks and some good 1/8" air ply ribs to lock everything in. You will also have to beef up the spar since you have to cut some of it away. I added 1/4" air ply on both sides of the spar to beef it up just between the the ribs that hold the gear mounts. Let me know.
Old 01-05-2010, 10:13 PM
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Hi Randy, I was planning on beefing up the retract area when I started to install the retracts. I'm at a stand still with this plane not having the retracts on hand. Thanks to this great economy money is tight, you know. I would still like to get the wing glassed and detailed this winter, would you be willing to trade phone numbers so that we could talk when I'm working on the plane. If so, give me a PM. If not I would still appreciate the help and measurements, Thank you David, AKA Capt. Winters
Old 01-13-2010, 09:45 AM
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Can you guys tell me where u guys get your cockpit kits, pilots and gear bay doors for the landing gear?
Old 01-13-2010, 10:55 AM
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Hey Dave, Can't believe how big the kids are. My goodness, it's been too long. I'll post some pictures of the gear tonight with rule.
Old 01-13-2010, 11:06 AM
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Can you guys tell me where u guys get your cockpit kits, pilots and gear bay doors for the landing gear?
Contact RCU user Chad Veich, he is making much of what you are asking for.
Old 01-14-2010, 12:23 AM
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Well, sorry Dave, it keeps saying connection interrupted when I try to upload pics. Getting a hard line tomorrow and I will try again.
Old 01-19-2010, 08:06 AM
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What's the biggest gasser you guys have installed in the CMP hellcat? I have a Fuji 43cc in my Willhobby FW190 and love the way that thing flies with authority, yet slow down plenty with full flaps for landing. My FW was putt putt with the Fuji 32cc EI motor. I have a DLE 30 heading my way from China, just a bit concerned that it may not be enough power to hit 80-90 mph. I like to fly my warbirds fast. Just wondering about how strong the CMP Hellcat airframe is to handle big gasser, and will it handle the weight up front? Please share your experience.
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What's the biggest gasser you guys have installed in the CMP hellcat? I have a Fuji 43cc in my Willhobby FW190 and love the way that thing flies with authority, yet slow down plenty with full flaps for landing. My FW was putt putt with the Fuji 32cc EI motor. I have a DLE 30 heading my way from China, just a bit concerned that it may not be enough power to hit 80-90 mph. I like to fly my warbirds fast. Just wondering about how strong the CMP Hellcat airframe is to handle big gasser, and will it handle the weight up front? Please share your experience.
The weakest point on it is the tail section. Actually more the fuse just in front of the stab. That part of the fuse is weak and can cause a flutter in the entire tail when going fast. When I had mine with a saito 150 and I went into a high speed dive at full throttle I could see the tail flutter. I am not talking about one flight surface but the whole tail. On my next one that I added a bulkhead for the scale retract it didn't do it. I have a feeling that the extra bulkhead added just enough strength to keep this from happening. The other weak spot I have heard of is the wing panels at the break between the center section and the outer panels. I glassed mine and put an extra layer in those areas just in case.
Old 01-19-2010, 01:56 PM
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Hay Bryant50,
Good luck getting anything out of Nitro Planes. Their customer service sucks hind wind...serious hind wind.

I have a set of Troy Built F6F retracts coming to me for my CMP Hellcat. Troy Built Models Hellcat has a 72" wing span and CMP has 70" so these should do the trick. I did have a set of Lado rotating retracts, but a buddy in my club had needed them (he sent his into Lado for repair and never got them back)...and I also felt that the Lado's weren't strong enough for the weight of this model. I plan on going with a twin Fox 1.20...that is if I can get the Fox to run well enough for me. If not, then I may go with a small gas engine.

What size gas engine would you guys recomend and has anyone installed a small gas engine into this kit ?

Thanks...
Soft Landings Always,
Bobby of Maui
Old 01-19-2010, 03:07 PM
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Hi All,

I'm in the process of fitting a converted Ryobi 31cc gasser to the Hellcat. I got the idea from WarbirdMadMan in this thread. He started back around post 2127 and has some nice installation photos at post 2165.

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Chilli
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Hi Chilli,
Thanks for the information...and it's still "work in progress" on deciding what engine to power this model with. Please do post pictures of your engine mod to this airframe.

I did receive my "Troy Built" F6F retracts today. The quality of the wheels and struts are of first quality-wheel dia. is 4". I'm still open to see how the air operated rotaters are, but the kit included everything you need to install the retracts into a model.

I will start on my wing first and I want to fit the landing gear, modify the flaps to be more scale and repaint the wings. Then install a retractable tail wheel into the fuse and beef up the tail section a bit.

Would a G38-lightened, with electronic ignition be to much power for this model ? Is the Solo 3-prop hub to big a scale for this size airframe, or would it work ok here ?

I've enclosed a few pictures of the "Troy Built" F6F retracts.

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Old 01-19-2010, 09:25 PM
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Hi Chilli,
Thanks for the information...and it's still ''work in progress'' on deciding what engine to power this model with. Please do post pictures of your engine mod to this airframe.

I did receive my ''Troy Built'' F6F retracts today. The quality of the wheels and struts are of first quality-wheel dia. is 4''. I'm still open to see how the air operated rotaters are, but the kit included everything you need to install the retracts into a model.

I will start on my wing first and I want to fit the landing gear, modify the flaps to be more scale and repaint the wings. Then install a retractable tail wheel into the fuse and beef up the tail section a bit.

Would a G38-lightened, with electronic ignition be to much power for this model ? Is the Solo 3-prop hub to big a scale for this size airframe, or would it work ok here ?

I've enclosed a few pictures of the ''Troy Built'' F6F retracts.

Soft Landings Always,
Bobby of Maui


I would say not to worried about too much power in fact would be just about the right size for a good 3 blade scale wise but I think the cylinder would stick out a bunch. A G38 is kind of tall but that would be up to you. The DLE 30 I think would be a good match and be mostly in the cowl. The Solo prop hub is way to big for this size plane I have one and stuck it up to see after you asked and it is way to big. Hope that helps.
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Yes indeed, it has been to long my long lost flying buddie, Jamie says you sent an e-mail so I will check that out as well. How is all that snow going? I have decided to sell some of my hanger planes, so let your club know if any of them are looking for some nice warbirds. I have an ad in the buy and sell market place. You need to put up a pic. of your hell cat again, so the new guys can have a look. I will finish this in an e-mail Dude, so talk to you soon. Your friend, David
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I'll start with the DLE 30 since you guys heard about flutter and weak outer wing section on this Hellcat. I may put in a Fuji 43cc if I can get my hands on one for my second Hellcat. Let me know if anyone has installed a 40-50cc and got away with that.


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