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Not the F-8, Hydro Junkie; although that is a very good guess. This bird flew a bit before the Crusader. But here's a bonus clue to reward your participation. Thanks; Ernie P.
Question: What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1.This fighter aircraft was noted as being a very effective dogfighter.
2.It was capable of fighting on equal terms with almost any fighter of its day.
3.Much of its success was related to innovative methods and equipment which helped the pilot better control the aircraft in combat situations.
4.These methods helped the pilot turn the aircraft quickly without losing control; and automatically compensated for quick turns and combat speeds.
5.It wasnt an easy plane to fly, however; and so was assigned only to experienced pilots in special units.
Question: What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1.This fighter aircraft was noted as being a very effective dogfighter.
2.It was capable of fighting on equal terms with almost any fighter of its day.
3.Much of its success was related to innovative methods and equipment which helped the pilot better control the aircraft in combat situations.
4.These methods helped the pilot turn the aircraft quickly without losing control; and automatically compensated for quick turns and combat speeds.
5.It wasnt an easy plane to fly, however; and so was assigned only to experienced pilots in special units.
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Another excellent, though incorrect, answer, Sir. Perhaps this next clue will assist your search. Thanks; Ernie P.
Question: What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1.This fighter aircraft was noted as being a very effective dogfighter.
2.It was capable of fighting on equal terms with almost any fighter of its day.
3.Much of its success was related to innovative methods and equipment which helped the pilot better control the aircraft in combat situations.
4.These methods helped the pilot turn the aircraft quickly without losing control; and automatically compensated for quick turns and combat speeds.
5.It wasn’t an easy plane to fly, however; and so was assigned only to experienced pilots in special units.
6.Unfortunately, it was not noted for being able to climb quickly, and the performance of its engine at higher altitudes was also less than ideal.
Question: What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1.This fighter aircraft was noted as being a very effective dogfighter.
2.It was capable of fighting on equal terms with almost any fighter of its day.
3.Much of its success was related to innovative methods and equipment which helped the pilot better control the aircraft in combat situations.
4.These methods helped the pilot turn the aircraft quickly without losing control; and automatically compensated for quick turns and combat speeds.
5.It wasn’t an easy plane to fly, however; and so was assigned only to experienced pilots in special units.
6.Unfortunately, it was not noted for being able to climb quickly, and the performance of its engine at higher altitudes was also less than ideal.
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Hydro Junkie; the P-38 could out climb the P-47 and P-51; so that won't work. But here's a bonus clue for you. Thanks; Ernie P.
Question: What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1.This fighter aircraft was noted as being a very effective dogfighter.
2.It was capable of fighting on equal terms with almost any fighter of its day.
3.Much of its success was related to innovative methods and equipment which helped the pilot better control the aircraft in combat situations.
4.These methods helped the pilot turn the aircraft quickly without losing control; and automatically compensated for quick turns and combat speeds.
5.It wasnt an easy plane to fly, however; and so was assigned only to experienced pilots in special units.
6.Unfortunately, it was not noted for being able to climb quickly, and the performance of its engine at higher altitudes was also less than ideal.
7.But its roll rate was very good; and it was noted for being able to both deal out and absorb punishment.
Question: What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1.This fighter aircraft was noted as being a very effective dogfighter.
2.It was capable of fighting on equal terms with almost any fighter of its day.
3.Much of its success was related to innovative methods and equipment which helped the pilot better control the aircraft in combat situations.
4.These methods helped the pilot turn the aircraft quickly without losing control; and automatically compensated for quick turns and combat speeds.
5.It wasnt an easy plane to fly, however; and so was assigned only to experienced pilots in special units.
6.Unfortunately, it was not noted for being able to climb quickly, and the performance of its engine at higher altitudes was also less than ideal.
7.But its roll rate was very good; and it was noted for being able to both deal out and absorb punishment.
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Not the F4U, Sir; but here's another clue to reward your participation. Thanks; Ernie P.
Question: What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1.This fighter aircraft was noted as being a very effective dogfighter.
2.It was capable of fighting on equal terms with almost any fighter of its day.
3.Much of its success was related to innovative methods and equipment which helped the pilot better control the aircraft in combat situations.
4.These methods helped the pilot turn the aircraft quickly without losing control; and automatically compensated for quick turns and combat speeds.
5.It wasn’t an easy plane to fly, however; and so was assigned only to experienced pilots in special units.
6.Unfortunately, it was not noted for being able to climb quickly, and the performance of its engine at higher altitudes was also less than ideal.
7.But its roll rate was very good; and it was noted for being able to both deal out and absorb punishment.
8.It was a low wing monoplane.
Question: What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1.This fighter aircraft was noted as being a very effective dogfighter.
2.It was capable of fighting on equal terms with almost any fighter of its day.
3.Much of its success was related to innovative methods and equipment which helped the pilot better control the aircraft in combat situations.
4.These methods helped the pilot turn the aircraft quickly without losing control; and automatically compensated for quick turns and combat speeds.
5.It wasn’t an easy plane to fly, however; and so was assigned only to experienced pilots in special units.
6.Unfortunately, it was not noted for being able to climb quickly, and the performance of its engine at higher altitudes was also less than ideal.
7.But its roll rate was very good; and it was noted for being able to both deal out and absorb punishment.
8.It was a low wing monoplane.
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Question: What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1.This fighter aircraft was noted as being a very effective dogfighter.
2.It was capable of fighting on equal terms with almost any fighter of its day.
3.Much of its success was related to innovative methods and equipment which helped the pilot better control the aircraft in combat situations.
4.These methods helped the pilot turn the aircraft quickly without losing control; and automatically compensated for quick turns and combat speeds.
5.It wasn’t an easy plane to fly, however; and so was assigned only to experienced pilots in special units.
6.Unfortunately, it was not noted for being able to climb quickly, and the performance of its engine at higher altitudes was also less than ideal.
7.But its roll rate was very good; and it was noted for being able to both deal out and absorb punishment.
8.It was a low wing monoplane.
9. Developed from an earlier model of the same aircraft; one which was not a particularly good or effective fighter
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Not the King Cobra, Hydro Junkie. But keep trying; and here's a bonus clue for you. Thanks; Ernie P.
Question: What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1.This fighter aircraft was noted as being a very effective dogfighter.
2.It was capable of fighting on equal terms with almost any fighter of its day.
3.Much of its success was related to innovative methods and equipment which helped the pilot better control the aircraft in combat situations.
4.These methods helped the pilot turn the aircraft quickly without losing control; and automatically compensated for quick turns and combat speeds.
5.It wasn’t an easy plane to fly, however; and so was assigned only to experienced pilots in special units.
6.Unfortunately, it was not noted for being able to climb quickly, and the performance of its engine at higher altitudes was also less than ideal.
7.But its roll rate was very good; and it was noted for being able to both deal out and absorb punishment.
8.It was a low wing monoplane.
9.Developed from an earlier model of the same aircraft; one which was not a particularly good or effective fighter.
10.However, the earlier model was designed to be solely a fighter which was to fight only when no other fighter was available.
Question: What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1.This fighter aircraft was noted as being a very effective dogfighter.
2.It was capable of fighting on equal terms with almost any fighter of its day.
3.Much of its success was related to innovative methods and equipment which helped the pilot better control the aircraft in combat situations.
4.These methods helped the pilot turn the aircraft quickly without losing control; and automatically compensated for quick turns and combat speeds.
5.It wasn’t an easy plane to fly, however; and so was assigned only to experienced pilots in special units.
6.Unfortunately, it was not noted for being able to climb quickly, and the performance of its engine at higher altitudes was also less than ideal.
7.But its roll rate was very good; and it was noted for being able to both deal out and absorb punishment.
8.It was a low wing monoplane.
9.Developed from an earlier model of the same aircraft; one which was not a particularly good or effective fighter.
10.However, the earlier model was designed to be solely a fighter which was to fight only when no other fighter was available.
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Question: What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1.This fighter aircraft was noted as being a very effective dogfighter.
2.It was capable of fighting on equal terms with almost any fighter of its day.
3.Much of its success was related to innovative methods and equipment which helped the pilot better control the aircraft in combat situations.
4.These methods helped the pilot turn the aircraft quickly without losing control; and automatically compensated for quick turns and combat speeds.
5.It wasn’t an easy plane to fly, however; and so was assigned only to experienced pilots in special units.
6.Unfortunately, it was not noted for being able to climb quickly, and the performance of its engine at higher altitudes was also less than ideal.
7.But its roll rate was very good; and it was noted for being able to both deal out and absorb punishment.
8.It was a low wing monoplane.
9.Developed from an earlier model of the same aircraft; one which was not a particularly good or effective fighter.
10.However, the earlier model was designed to be solely a fighter which was to fight only when no other fighter was available.
11.The earlier model was a mid-wing monoplane.
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Question: What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1.This fighter aircraft was noted as being a very effective dogfighter.
2.It was capable of fighting on equal terms with almost any fighter of its day.
3.Much of its success was related to innovative methods and equipment which helped the pilot better control the aircraft in combat situations.
4.These methods helped the pilot turn the aircraft quickly without losing control; and automatically compensated for quick turns and combat speeds.
5.It wasn’t an easy plane to fly, however; and so was assigned only to experienced pilots in special units.
6.Unfortunately, it was not noted for being able to climb quickly, and the performance of its engine at higher altitudes was also less than ideal.
7.But its roll rate was very good; and it was noted for being able to both deal out and absorb punishment.
8.It was a low wing monoplane.
9.Developed from an earlier model of the same aircraft; one which was not a particularly good or effective fighter.
10.However, the earlier model was designed to be solely a fighter which was to fight only when no other fighter was available.
11.The earlier model was a mid-wing monoplane.
12.The new model, our subject aircraft, was not produced in response to a requirement from the military, but as an in-house venture by the manufacturer.
13.The first version of the new fighter was also a mid-wing aircraft; but the mid-wing design created problems with the landing gear.
14.The first version was designed to use a new design radial engine; one which was powerful.
15.However, the engine was not yet fully developed; and proved troublesome.
16.Inadequate heat treatment of some aircraft components also caused problems.
17.Despite the problems with the landing gear, the troublesome engine and problems with heat treatment, the potential of the aircraft was obvious and it was ordered into production.
Answer: The Kawanishi N1K-J Shiden
The Kawanishi N1K Kyōfū (強風 "strong wind", Allied reporting name "Rex") was an Imperial Japanese Navyfloatplanefighter. The Kawanishi N1K-J Shiden (紫電 "Violet Lightning") was an Imperial Japanese Navy Air Service land-based version of the N1K. Assigned the Allied codename "George", the N1K-J was considered by both its pilots and opponents to be one of the finest land-based fighters flown by the Japanese during World War II. The Shiden Kai possessed heavy armament as well as surprisingly good manoeuvrability, due to a mercury switch that automatically extended the flaps during turns. These "combat" flaps created more lift, thereby allowing tighter turns. Unlike the A6M Zero, the Shiden Kai could compete against the best late-war fighters, such as the F6F Hellcat, the F4U Corsair and P-51 Mustang.
Kawanishi's N1K was originally built as a single pontoon floatplane fighter to support forward offensive operations where no airstrips were available, but by 1943 when the aircraft entered service, Japan was firmly on the defensive, and there was no more need for a fighter to fulfil this role.The requirement to carry a bulky, heavy float essentially crippled the N1K against contemporary American fighters. Kawanishi engineers, however, had proposed in late 1941 that the N1K would be the basis of a formidable land-based fighter too, and a land-based version was produced as a private venture by the company. This version flew on 27 December 1942, powered by a Nakajima NK9A Homare 11radial engine, replacing the less powerful Mitsubishi MK4C Kasei 13 of the N1K. The aircraft retained the mid-mounted wing of the floatplane, and combined with the large propeller necessitated a long, stalky main landing gear. A unique feature was the aircraft's combat flaps that adjusted their angle in response to acceleration; thus freeing up the pilot's concentration and reducing the chance of stalling in combat. The N1K did have temperamental flight characteristics, however, that required an experienced touch at the controls. The Nakajima Homare was powerful, but had been rushed into production before it was sufficiently developed, and proved troublesome. Another problem was that, due to poor heat treatment of the wheels, their failure on landing would result in the landing gear being torn off. Apart from engine problems and the landing gear the flight test program showed that the aircraft was promising. Prototypes were evaluated by the Navy, and since the aircraft was faster than the Zero and had a much longer range than the Mitsubishi J2MRaiden, it was ordered into production as the N1K1-J, the -J indicating a land-based fighter modification of the original floatplane fighter.
Only four days after the Shiden's first test flight, a complete redesign was begun, the N1K2-J. The new design addressed the N1K1-J's major defects, primarily the mid-mounted wing and long landing gear. The wings were moved to a low position, which permitted the use of shorter, conventional undercarriage. The fuselage was lengthened and the tail redesigned. The production of the entire aircraft simplified: over a third of the parts used in the previous Shiden could still be used in its successor while construction made more use of non-critical materials. The N1K1 redesign was approximately 250 kg (550 lb) lighter, faster and more reliable than its predecessor. As no alternative existed, the Homare engine was retained even though reliability problems persisted. A prototype of the new version flew on 1 January 1944. After completing Navy trials in April the N1K2-J was rushed into production. The variant was named the "Shiden-Kai" (紫電改), with Kai meaning modified.
The N1K Shiden entered service in early 1944. The original N1K1 and the N1K2 Shiden-Kai released later that year were among the rare Japanese aircraft that offered pilots an even chance against late-war American designs such as the F6F Hellcat and the F4U Corsair, and either could be a formidable weapon in the hands of an ace. In February 1945 Lieutenant Kaneyoshi Muto, flying a N1K2-J as part of a group of at least 10 expert Japanese pilots, faced seven U.S. Navy Hellcats of VF-82 in the sky over Japan. His group shot down four Hellcats with no loss to themselves. After the action reporters fabricated a story in which Muto was the sole airman facing 12 enemy aircraft. A close friend of Lieutenant Kaneyoshi Muto, ace pilot Saburō Sakai, states in his autobiography that a one-versus-twelve combat did take place, but with Muto at the controls of a Zero fighter. The N1K1-J aircraft were used very effectively over Formosa (Taiwan), the Philippines, and, later, Okinawa. Before production was switched to the improved N1K2-J, 1,007 aircraft were produced, including prototypes. Production difficulties and damage resulting from B-29 raids on factories led to only 415 of the superior N1K2-J fighters being produced.The N1K2-J Shiden-Kai proved to be one of the best dogfighting aircraft produced by either side. Along with high speed the Shiden-Kai offered pilots an agile aircraft with a roll rate of 82°/sec at 386 km/h (240 mph) backing four powerful 20 mm cannons in the wings. As a bomberinterceptor the N1K2-J fared less well, hampered as it was by a poor rate of climb and reduced engine performance at high altitude.The N1K2-J Shiden-Kai offered a formidable if demanding aircraft in limited quantities. As a result, the planes were distributed to elite units like the IJN 343rd Air Group (343 Kōkūtai Naval Fighter Group) constituted on 25 December 1944 and commanded by Minoru Genda. The new 343rd Kōkūtai claimed Japan's finest fighter pilots such as Muto and Genda. The unit was issued the best available equipment and new Nakajima C6NSaiun, codenamed "Myrt" long-range reconnaissance aircraft.On 18 March 1945 one of the "Myrts"' managed to spot U.S. carriers en route to Japan. The following morning, Shiden aircraft flown by the group intercepted 300 American aircraft. Many of the 343 KōkūtaiShiden force were N1K2s. When the Shidens encountered Grumman F6F Hellcats from the VBF-17 group, three aircraft were lost on both sides in the initial attack: one Hellcat and two Shidens were shot down by enemy ground fire, two fighters collided in mid-air, and one Hellcat crashed while trying to land. Another Shiden dived on a Hellcat group and downed another one. In the end the Hikōtai lost six fighters versus eight VBF-17 fighters on the other side.
Another noted encounter pitted the NIK against the Vought F4U Corsair. Two Corsairs from the VBF-10 group, accidentally separated from their main formations, were attacked by Shidens from the 343rd. Four N1K2s were shot down. The Corsairs managed to return to their carrier, USS Bunker Hill. A second encounter took place when pilots flying Shidens initially mistook Corsairs from the VFM-123 for Hellcats and attacked. A 30-minute aerial duel ensued in which three Corsairs were shot down and another five were damaged. Three other F4Us returned to their carriers but were so heavily damaged that the plans were scrapped. No Shidens were lost to Corsairs in that aerial battle. Losses for the Japanese NIK pilots did occur in related action, however. Two Shidens were shot down upon returns for landing by Hellcats of VF-9, while many more Shidens were destroyed by American fighters over another airfield where, low on fuel, their pilots tried to land. At the end of the day the 343rd claimed 52 kills and the US groups 63. The actual losses were 15 Shidens and 13 pilots, a "Myrt" with its three-man crew, and nine other Japanese fighters. The U.S. also took heavy losses: 14 fighters and seven pilots, plus 11 more attack aircraft. Five days later an unofficial award was sent to 343 Kōkūtai for the valour shown on 19 March.On 12 April 1945 another fierce battle involved 343°, during Kikusui N.2. The Japanese recorded several kills but suffered 12 losses out of 34 aircraft.
On 4 May another 24 Shidens were sent in Kikusui N.5.In every encounter with enemy fighters the Shiden, especially the Kai version, proved to be a capable dogfighter with a potent combination of firepower, agility, and rugged structure. The premier unit flying the Shiden, 343 Kōkūtai, remained operational until overwhelming unit losses obliged the group to stand down. The 343rd was disbanded on 14 August 1945 when the Emperor ordered surrender.Another noted encounter pitted the NIK against the Vought F4U Corsair. Two Corsairs from the VBF-10 group, accidentally separated from their main formations, were attacked by Shidens from the 343rd. Four N1K2s were shot down. The Corsairs managed to return to their carrier, USS Bunker Hill. A second encounter took place when pilots flying Shidens initially mistook Corsairs from the VFM-123 for Hellcats and attacked. A 30-minute aerial duel ensued in which three Corsairs were shot down and another five were damaged. Three other F4Us returned to their carriers but were so heavily damaged that the plans were scrapped. No Shidens were lost to Corsairs in that aerial battle. Losses for the Japanese NIK pilots did occur in related action, however. Two Shidens were shot down upon returns for landing by Hellcats of VF-9, while many more Shidens were destroyed by American fighters over another airfield where, low on fuel, their pilots tried to land. At the end of the day the 343rd claimed 52 kills and the US groups 63. The actual losses were 15 Shidens and 13 pilots, a "Myrt" with its three-man crew, and nine other Japanese fighters. The U.S. also took heavy losses: 14 fighters and seven pilots, plus 11 more attack aircraft. Five days later an unofficial award was sent to 343 Kōkūtai for the valour shown on 19 March.
On 12 April 1945 another fierce battle involved 343°, during Kikusui N.2. The Japanese recorded several kills but suffered 12 losses out of 34 aircraft. On 4 May another 24 Shidens were sent in Kikusui N.5.In every encounter with enemy fighters the Shiden, especially the Kai version, proved to be a capable dogfighter with a potent combination of firepower, agility, and rugged structure. The premier unit flying the Shiden, 343 Kōkūtai, remained operational until overwhelming unit losses obliged the group to stand down. The 343rd was disbanded on 14 August 1945 when the Emperor ordered surrender.Specifications (N1K1-J)
Data fromTAIC 107 A1 Report General characteristics
- Crew: 1
- Length: 9.3 m (30 ft 7 in)
- Wingspan: 12.0 m (39 ft 4 in)
- Height: 3.9 m (13 ft 0 in)
- Wing area: 23.5 m2 (253 ft2)
- Empty weight: 2,656 kg (5,855 lb)
- Loaded weight: 4,000 kg (8,820 lb)
- Max. takeoff weight: 4,860 kg (10,710 lb)
- Powerplant: 1 Χ Nakajima Homare NK9H radial engine, 1,850 hp (1,380 kW)
- Maximum speed: 656 km/h (408mph) (6100m(20000ft))
- Range: 1,716 km / 2,395 km (1,066 mi; 1,488 mi (2,395 km) ferry)
- Service ceiling: 10,800 m (35,500 ft)
- Rate of climb: 20.3 m/s (4065 ft/min)
- Wing loading: 166 kg/m2 (34 lb/ft2)
- Power/mass: 0.305 kW/kg (0.226 hp/lb)
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Clue #4 made me think of the Ki-43 Oscar and Ki-44 Tojo, and Butterfly flaps..numbers.7, 8, 9, and 10 nudged me closer,...but it was # 11 that made me think of one of my favorite Japanese WWII aircraft...the Rex and how it morphed into the early, mid-wing George...and then to the later, low wing version..
In elementary school, when my buddies were drawing pictures of Mustangs and Spitfires, I was sketching Ki-61's and He-100's, Fw-190's, Jacks and Georges...and the other guys would look at me funny and ask why izzit you draw pictures of enemy planes...??? lol I never had a good answer for them...just wanted to do something different I guess.
I have an aircraft in mind...and should have some quiz questions available this evening....
In elementary school, when my buddies were drawing pictures of Mustangs and Spitfires, I was sketching Ki-61's and He-100's, Fw-190's, Jacks and Georges...and the other guys would look at me funny and ask why izzit you draw pictures of enemy planes...??? lol I never had a good answer for them...just wanted to do something different I guess.
I have an aircraft in mind...and should have some quiz questions available this evening....
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.Let's try this...we are looking for an aircraft...
1) "Between the Wars" time period...
2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
5) not a Bomber
1) "Between the Wars" time period...
2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
5) not a Bomber
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2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
5) not a Bomber
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1) "Between the Wars" time period...
2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
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Let's try this...we are looking for an aircraft...
1) "Between the Wars" time period...
2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
5) not a Bomber
6) Designed and built during a time when most of it's contemporaries were wood or steel tube and fabric__________________
1) "Between the Wars" time period...
2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
5) not a Bomber
6) Designed and built during a time when most of it's contemporaries were wood or steel tube and fabric__________________
7) At the time of it's construction, this company was not well known for aircraft production
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Let's try this...we are looking for an aircraft...
1) "Between the Wars" time period...
2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
5) not a Bomber
6) Designed and built during a time when most of it's contemporaries were wood or steel tube and fabric__________________
1) "Between the Wars" time period...
2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
5) not a Bomber
6) Designed and built during a time when most of it's contemporaries were wood or steel tube and fabric__________________
7) At the time of it's construction, this company was not well known for aircraft production
ANSWER: Ford Trimotor.
The Ford Trimotor (also called the "Tri-Motor", and nicknamed "The Tin Goose") is an American three-engined transport aircraft. Production started in 1925 by the companies of Henry Ford and ended on June 7, 1933. A total of 199 Ford Trimotors were made.[1] It was designed for the civil aviation market, but also saw service with military units.
AllFord Trimotor was a development of previous designs by William Bushnell Stout, using structural principles copied from the work of Professor Hugo Junkers, the noted German all-metal aircraft design pioneer, and adapted to an airframe very similar to the single engine Fokker F.VII - even using the same airfoil cross section at the wing root. In the early 1920s, Henry Ford, along with a group of 19 other investors including his son Edsel, invested in the Stout Metal Airplane Company. Stout, a bold and imaginative salesman, sent a mimeographed form letter to leading manufacturers, blithely asking for $1,000 and adding: "For your one thousand dollars you will get one definite promise: You will never get your money back." Stout raised $20,000, including $1,000 each from Edsel and Henry Ford.[2] In 1925, Ford bought Stout and its aircraft designs. The single-engined Stout monoplane was turned into a trimotor, the Stout 3-AT with three Curtiss-Wrightair-cooled radial engines. After a prototype was built and test-flown with poor results, and a suspicious fire caused the complete destruction of all previous designscitation needed], the "4-AT" and "5-AT" emerged.The Ford Trimotor using all-metal construction was not a revolutionary concept, but it was certainly more advanced than the standard construction techniques of the 1920s. The aircraft resembled the Fokker F.VII Trimotor (except for being all-metal which Henry Ford claimed made it "the safest airliner around"). Its fuselage and wings followed a design pioneered by Junkers
[4] during World War I with the Junkers J.I and used postwar in a series of airliners starting with the Junkers F.13 low-wing monoplane of 1920 of which a number were exported to the US, the Junkers K 16 high-wing airliner of 1921, and the Junkers G 24 trimotor of 1924. All of these were constructed of aluminum alloy, which was corrugated for added stiffness, although the resulting drag reduced its overall performance. So similar were the designs that Junkers sued and won when Ford attempted to export an aircraft to Europe. In 1930, Ford countersued in Prague, and despite the possibility of anti-German sentiment, was decisively defeated a second time, with the court finding that Ford had infringed upon Junkers' patents. Although designed primarily for passenger use, the Trimotor could be easily adapted for hauling cargo, since its seats in the fuselage could be removed. To increase cargo capacity, one unusual feature was the provision of "drop-down" cargo holds below the lower inner wing sections of the 5-AT version. Ford Trimotor was a development of previous designs by William Bushnell Stout, using structural principles copied from the work of Professor Hugo Junkers, the noted German all-metal aircraft design pioneer, and adapted to an airframe very similar to the single engine Fokker F.VII - even using the same airfoil cross section at the wing root.In the early 1920s, Henry Ford, along with a group of 19 other investors including his son Edsel, invested in the Stout Metal Airplane Company. Stout, a bold and imaginative salesman, sent a mimeographed form letter to leading manufacturers, blithely asking for $1,000 and adding: "For your one thousand dollars you will get one definite promise: You will never get your money back." Stout raised $20,000, including $1,000 each from Edsel and Henry Ford. In 1925, Ford bought Stout and its aircraft designs. The single-engined Stout monoplane was turned into a trimotor, the Stout 3-AT with three Curtiss-Wrightair-cooled radial engines. After a prototype was built and test-flown with poor results, and a suspicious fire caused the complete destruction of all previous designs, the "4-AT" and "5-AT" emerged.The Ford Trimotor using all-metal construction was not a revolutionary concept, but it was certainly more advanced than the standard construction techniques of the 1920s. The aircraft resembled the Fokker F.VII Trimotor (except for being all-metal which Henry Ford claimed made it "the safest airliner around"). Its fuselage and wings followed a design pioneered by Junkers
[4] during World War I with the Junkers J.I and used postwar in a series of airliners starting with the Junkers F.13 low-wing monoplane of 1920 of which a number were exported to the US, the Junkers K 16 high-wing airliner of 1921, and the Junkers G 24 trimotor of 1924. All of these were constructed of aluminum alloy, which was corrugated for added stiffness, although the resulting drag reduced its overall performance. So similar were the designs that Junkers sued and won when Ford attempted to export an aircraft to Europe. In 1930, Ford countersued in Prague, and despite the possibility of anti-German sentiment, was decisively defeated a second time, with the court finding that Ford had infringed upon Junkers' patents. Although designed primarily for passenger use, the Trimotor could be easily adapted for hauling cargo, since its seats in the fuselage could be removed. To increase cargo capacity, one unusual feature was the provision of "drop-down" cargo holds below the lower inner wing sections of the 5-AT version.
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Not the Ford Tri Motor Ernie...however, the timeline is very close...mid to late 20s
1) "Between the Wars" time period...
2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
5) not a Bomber
6) Designed and built during a time when most of it's contemporaries were wood or steel tube and fabric__________________
1) "Between the Wars" time period...
2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
5) not a Bomber
6) Designed and built during a time when most of it's contemporaries were wood or steel tube and fabric__________________
7) At the time of it's construction, this company was not well known for aircraft production
8) The manuf. was better known for producing Ships...
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Not the Ford Tri Motor Ernie...however, the timeline is very close...mid to late 20s
Wrong time frame Hydro Junkie...but...
1) "Between the Wars" time period...
2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
5) not a Bomber
6) Designed and built during a time when most of it's contemporaries were wood or steel tube and fabric
7) At the time of it's construction, this company was not well known for aircraft productionWrong time frame Hydro Junkie...but...
1) "Between the Wars" time period...
2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
5) not a Bomber
6) Designed and built during a time when most of it's contemporaries were wood or steel tube and fabric
8) The manuf. was better known for producing Ships...
My Feedback: (8)
Not the Ford Tri Motor Ernie...however, the timeline is very close...mid to late 20s
1) "Between the Wars" time period...
2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
5) not a Bomber
6) Designed and built during a time when most of it's contemporaries were wood or steel tube and fabric__________________
1) "Between the Wars" time period...
2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
5) not a Bomber
6) Designed and built during a time when most of it's contemporaries were wood or steel tube and fabric__________________
7) At the time of it's construction, this company was not well known for aircraft production
8) The manuf. was better known for producing Ships...
9) Hydro Junkies guess did not get the manuf. or aircraft correct, but a German Co. contributed to the design
10) This country of origin was and still is not well known as having many aircraft manuf. companies...
In otther words, throughout the country of origins history, there have been just a few aircraft manufacturers based there
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Not the Ford Tri Motor Ernie...however, the timeline is very close...mid to late 20s
1) "Between the Wars" time period...
2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
5) not a Bomber
6) Designed and built during a time when most of it's contemporaries were wood or steel tube and fabric__________________
1) "Between the Wars" time period...
2) Monoplane
3) "All Metal"
4) more than one engine
5) not a Bomber
6) Designed and built during a time when most of it's contemporaries were wood or steel tube and fabric__________________
7) At the time of it's construction, this company was not well known for aircraft production
8) The manuf. was better known for producing Ships...
9) Hydro Junkies guess did not get the manuf. or aircraft correct, but a German Co. contributed to the design
10) This country of origin was and still is not well known as having many aircraft manuf. companies...
In otther words, throughout the country of origins history, there have been just a few aircraft manufacturers based there
11) Monoplane...and while it could be considered conventional in layout, it can also be considered extreme in design and execution.
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