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Brad330l 06-21-2008 07:46 AM

The complete YELLOW AIRCRAFT SPITFIRE thread.
 
Well Guys,
I think it is high time the Y/A Spitfire had a new thread dedicated to it where every one who is interested in this wonderful model can find lots of great information,,,, contributed by YOU.
Many of you I'm sure have had dealings with the Spitty so post your advise, displeasures, pictures and wants and needs right here and hopefully wil can stir up some interest and get some more of these things in the air.
I have no affiliation with Y/A at all. I just love the model and think it is 'undermodeled' and want to see more of them.
I will be using this thread as my build thread for a bubble canopy conversion of the MK XIV that I have committed to purchase from Marty at http://www.jetfx.net/. (Just waiting on final quote) I have already purchased the conversion kit and undercarrage from Leo at http://www.spychallaaircraft.com/ and will have delivery in the near future.
I will be modelling a 451 or 453 squadron RAAF MKXIV Spitty used late in the war.
I have started a couple of threads asking questions about the preferred equipment to use and will link them here so just continue on and let us know what you think. Also a couple from other members.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7617758/tm.htm about the engine and undercarrage
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7460185/tm.htm about obtaining a model here in OZ
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7606756/tm.htm about the cockpit
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7607602/tm.htm about the wing
I wil be asking lots of questions, posting as I build and wanting to know all about the good gear to use.
Links, pictures, flight reports, hints and tips. Post them here.

Cheers,

Brad (expectant Spitfire Dad)



Brad330l 06-21-2008 06:49 PM

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Here are the two schemes I will be deciding from for my Spitfire.

RAAF squadrons 451 and 453 respectivly.


Check6 06-21-2008 07:15 PM

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Hey Brad,
I just picked up a War Weary Yellow Spit that had an enemic G 38 in it. I just transplanted a G 62 in it. I will fly it the way it stands for now and thinking of going with Leo's, bubble conversion over the winter. Looking forward to your build.
Thanks,
Fred Menna Check6

MarkShapiro 06-21-2008 09:44 PM

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Here's mine. 3w-70 for power and functional scale exhaust. Flies great and floats to landing. Mark.

Brad330l 06-22-2008 12:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: Check6

Hey Brad,
I just picked up a War Weary Yellow Spit that had an enemic G 38 in it. I just transplanted a G 62 in it. I will fly it the way it stands for now and thinking of going with Leo's, bubble conversion over the winter. Looking forward to your build.
Thanks,
Fred Menna Check6
Good on you Fred, what a great pick up.
It is fun rebuilding old models as well,, just like restoring an old warbird.
Did you fly it with the G38 in it? I am wondering how it went as that is only about 2.5 HP. I am looking at using a ZDZ 40 with about 4.8 HP but most are using 50cc's and bigger.

And to Mark, great looking Spit Mate. I'm sure I have seen this models pictures some where before.
I like it. No doubt you have some good vertical with the 70cc.

Brad

OldScaleGuy 06-22-2008 07:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: MarkShapiro

Here's mine. 3w-70 for power and functional scale exhaust. Flies great and floats to landing. Mark.
Very Nice Indeed! A weathered warbird with some attractive color! A friend of mine has a YA Spit and flies it on a Moki 1.8. It is not overpowered my any means but it does fly well and mostly concealed within the cowl.

Brad330l 06-25-2008 05:32 AM

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I have just received my conversion kit from Spychalla Aircraft along with the undercarrage and cockpit sets from Leo.
Man,, fast postage. It would have only taken a week from payment and that is all the way to Western Australia!!!.
Every thing looks real nice. Thanks Leo.

Now I just need my Spitfire kit. Still waiting on a final postage total.

Brad

willey 06-25-2008 08:09 AM

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Looking forward to this one Brad, this has been on the want list for quite a while now, post lots of photos!!:D:D

Edwin 06-25-2008 12:20 PM

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Subscribed! Good idea. I'm accumilating parts for mine. Just need mostly servos and glass cloth. Have everything else or will make it.
Edwin

Chad Veich 06-25-2008 02:47 PM

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I have plans for a built up stab if anyone is looking to get rid of the heavier than necessary stock unit.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23...TSTAB_REDU.jpg

Edwin 06-25-2008 02:58 PM

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Chad, Thats a time saver. What format are they?
Edwin

willey 06-25-2008 02:59 PM

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Whoa! Chad that's very nice. I'll hit you up when the day comes for sure!;)

is there that much weight difference?

Chad Veich 06-25-2008 05:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: Edwin

Chad, Thats a time saver. What format are they?
Edwin
I can provide pretty much whatever you need, PDF, TIFF, JPG, DWG, DXF, etc.


ORIGINAL: willey

Whoa! Chad that's very nice. I'll hit you up when the day comes for sure!;)

is there that much weight difference?
Most of the weight of the stab supplied in the Yellow kit is in the elevators with their heavy plywood cores. It is not a huge job to lighten up the kit supplied parts but my drawing provides a more scale outline as well as providing opportunity to easily add a scale gapless hinge which is not so easy on the fiberglass one in the kit. Last but not least the fiberglass stab in my Yellow Spitfire kit was very wavy and I simply did not like the way it looked.

Brad330l 06-25-2008 05:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: Chad Veich

I have plans for a built up stab if anyone is looking to get rid of the heavier than necessary stock unit.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23...TSTAB_REDU.jpg
Awesome Chad,
I had heard of someone having such plans and was going to ask them to come forward.

Happy you guys like the idea of the thread.

Brad

Edwin 06-25-2008 08:27 PM

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DXF works for me.
Edwin

lbscottsdale 06-25-2008 08:54 PM

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Mark
Your Spit really looks great! Mine is still "a work in progress" and I am trying to decide on an engine! Specifically one I can have "working exhausts". I am really interested on the scheme you came up with to do that. Any info would be really appreciated.

Len Brown

Shaun Evans 06-26-2008 01:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: Brad330l

I have just received my conversion kit from Spychalla Aircraft along with the undercarrage and cockpit sets from Leo.
Man,, fast postage. It would have only taken a week from payment and that is all the way to Western Australia!!!.
Every thing looks real nice. Thanks Leo.

Now I just need my Spitfire kit. Still waiting on a final postage total.

Brad

Hi,

What's the problem with your shipping quote? If it gives you an idea, I just sent a Texan kit to Queensland, and the shipping was $505 (door to airport). Ouch.

Brad330l 06-26-2008 03:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: YellowAircraft



ORIGINAL: Brad330l

I have just received my conversion kit from Spychalla Aircraft along with the undercarrage and cockpit sets from Leo.
Man,, fast postage. It would have only taken a week from payment and that is all the way to Western Australia!!!.
Every thing looks real nice. Thanks Leo.

Now I just need my Spitfire kit. Still waiting on a final postage total.

Brad

Hi,

What's the problem with your shipping quote? If it gives you an idea, I just sent a Texan kit to Queensland, and the shipping was $505 (door to airport). Ouch.
As of right now I have paid for my kit after getting the postage quote (bit of a computer problem only) and it is $480AU to Perth and then i have to get it up here to Port Hedland which is another 1800k's up the track.
Time to get excited.

Brad

Brad330l 06-26-2008 04:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: lbscottsdale

Mark
Your Spit really looks great! Mine is still "a work in progress" and I am trying to decide on an engine! Specifically one I can have "working exhausts". I am really interested on the scheme you came up with to do that. Any info would be really appreciated.

Len Brown
Yes Mark, how about some pictures of the engine install and exhausts.
Did you use a prop shaft extension?

Brad

JL1 06-26-2008 05:30 AM

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Chad, how do I go about obtaining a set of the stab plans? jpeg is fine if it is a simple email deal

Brad330l 06-26-2008 08:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: JL1

Chad, how do I go about obtaining a set of the stab plans? jpeg is fine if it is a simple email deal
Chad, I'm with JL1 with that request.
Would you just print it out at 100%?
Let us know what you require.

Brad

Brad330l 06-26-2008 08:22 AM

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ORIGINAL: Edwin

Subscribed! Good idea. I'm accumilating parts for mine. Just need mostly servos and glass cloth. Have everything else or will make it.
Edwin
What servos you going to use Edwin? I was looking at the 8.3kg torque JR ES579. They read pretty good and seem quite reasonably priced.
Not too fast but hey we're not doing 3D.

Brad

Chad Veich 06-26-2008 10:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: JL1

Chad, how do I go about obtaining a set of the stab plans? jpeg is fine if it is a simple email deal
Just drop me an email at the addy below and I will reply with the drawings attached. They will be at full scale but, just in case their are printing issues, a scale is provided on the drawing to check for accuracy. Be sure to let me know what format you prefer.

Chad
[email protected]

Edwin 06-26-2008 02:46 PM

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I'm looking at those HD (I think thats the name) from Chief.
Edwin

MarkShapiro 06-26-2008 05:01 PM

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Thanks Len and Brad. I posted a few pics below. The 3W-70 fit rather well into the nose with a little persuasion. The firewall former had to be released from it original placement in the fuse and set back about an inch or so in order to obtain the correct protusion of the driveshaft from the fusealge tip opening. Then I created a customized firewall to accomodate the engine. The muffler also worked out very nicely. I wish I could take full credit for it, but I "borrowed" the idea from Evan Quiros who did the same thing in his YA Spitfire. You can see the muffler placement in the pics, too. I also attached isolated pics of themuffler after I fabricated it.

MarkShapiro 06-26-2008 05:06 PM

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Like Chad, I also made my own H stab and elevators. Much lighter and no waves:

JET FX 06-27-2008 08:20 PM

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Interesting mods there on the tail section, sure looks like real nice work too...

I also have a new Yellow Spit project for myself on the way, my one will be arriving about the same time as Brad's. And just to be different:) I will be installing a Saito 220 in my Spity. Not sure quite what to expect performance wise from this combo but Iam quitely confident she will fly extremely well. I also have a nice set of Glennis Spitty wheels already on hand....

Probably going to go with PS-853 colours also- http://www.rolls-royce.com/history/o...w/spitfire.jsp

I would be curious to here what pilot figures some of you guys are using or planning to use, pilots are one of my pet peaves and have to look the part and be the right size and scale...

Cheers- Marty

Brad330l 06-27-2008 10:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: JET FX


I would be curious to here what pilot figures some of you guys are using or planning to use, pilots are one of my pet peaves and have to look the part and be the right size and scale...

Cheers- Marty
I'm hearing you Marty,
Here is a thread I started about pilots.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_39..._1/key_/tm.htm

I will probably use parts of the pilot supplied with the cockpit i got off Leo and make the rest. This is if he looks about the right size when i get to mock-up stage.

Brad.

Brad330l 06-29-2008 08:23 AM

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Here is a link I found here on RCU with a bit of information and some darn nice pictures.
Just to keep the juices flowing.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_33...tm.htm#3343651

Here are some links that I am saving for the rest of the build. It is by no means the end list. Just surfing.

http://www.modeldesign.com.au/detail...t=engines&id=5
http://www.rc-revolution.com/engine_r50u.htm
http://shop.desertaircraft.com.au/catalogue/c9/p8
http://www.evolutionengines.com/Prod...rodID=EVOE50GX
http://www.intairco.net/default.asp?...at=226&id=1167
http://www.intairco.net/default.asp?...at=222&id=1152
http://www.intairco.net/default.asp?...at=228&id=1171
http://www.modelflight.com.au/jr_rc/jr_es_579_servo.htm
http://www.mk-model-aircraft.com/
http://www.sierragiant.com/prod32.html

Mmmmm,,, adding up. :) But, I only need one of the engines.:D

Brad

Brad330l 07-01-2008 07:10 AM

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Well Guys, I couldn't wait any longer so I went ahead and brought a 3W 55I from Model Design here in OZ.
After seeing '60's and '70's installed I thought the '55' would be a good compromise for power and fit. It has a rear carby and prop extensions are avaliable from Sierra. I also like the idea of the slanted exhaust manifold face that should make the exhaust stacks easier to confine in the cowl.

Last night I also ordered all my servos and 9 channel PCM receiver, reversing 'Y' lead for flaps, extension leads and heavy duty switches X 2.

I am thinking to keep things simple by just 'Y' leading two battery packs into my receiver and not using a power box. The Spitty will not be drawing that much power that I will need 'boosted' signals. Any thoughts on this?

Next is retract equipment to make my gear work.

Oh man talk about pumped!!!!!!!!!![>:]

Brad

BobH 07-01-2008 11:00 AM

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I flew my YA Spit with a single battery for the Rx with no issues. I can't imagine the servos drawing all that much power. The plane isn't a 3D monster lol.

Thunderbolt47 07-01-2008 05:34 PM

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I alway run two pack in my big planes, (6 volts) A warbird doesn't mind carring around an extra pack.

JET FX 07-01-2008 06:59 PM

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See how she balances, if nose weight is required might as well go with the extra Rx battery. Pitty theres not a Keleco scale exhaust system available yet for the Yellow Spitty this would probably be worth considering for adding yet more functional balance weight in the nose...

Flyfalcons 07-01-2008 08:38 PM

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Does anyone kit a large Mk II, V, or IX?

Thunderbolt47 07-01-2008 09:34 PM

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How big is large?:D

JET FX 07-02-2008 02:28 AM

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ORIGINAL: Flyfalcons

Does anyone kit a large Mk II, V, or IX?
FC Scale parts do an impressive Mk5
http://translate.google.com.au/trans...%3Den%26sa%3DX

Clark Industries have a Mk9
http://www.clarkindustries.on.ca/

Brad330l 07-02-2008 03:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: Thunderbolt47

I alway run two pack in my big planes, (6 volts) A warbird doesn't mind carring around an extra pack.
Thunderbolt, do you just 'Y' lead them and go straight to your receiver?
(Obviously using two identical packs)

Brad

Thunderbolt47 07-02-2008 03:41 AM

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I use two batterys and two switches into one RX. If you don't have an open port just Y it off of any Channel. Preferably opposite side of the Battery input.

Or use a Battshare. (smartfly) They share packs. If one goes bad, it will eleminate it from the system and use the remaining pack. It also monitors them and bring them down together. This is what I was using and liked it alot, but if using 2.4 radios you can't BIND through them from the switch.

I tried a Battery Backer by Jo-Mar, but I didn't like the way it used one battery and swiched only if the main pack went bad or low. this ment your back up battery never really got used.

Kelly

Brad330l 07-02-2008 04:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: Thunderbolt47

I use two batterys and two switches into one RX. If you don't have an open port just Y it off of any Channel. Preferably opposite side of the Battery input.

Kelly
Cheers Mate, thats what I was going to do but what do you mean by opposite side of the batt. input?

Brad

Thunderbolt47 07-02-2008 08:08 AM

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Brad, On the RX you will have the Battery input. Usually the first port is Channel 1 and the last port is the battery. There is a buss bar that runs from CH1 to batt input. On a JR RX, throttle is ch1 or port one. the last port is Battery port. You would Y the other battery in to your throttle. It really not impairative that you do it that way. you could plug it in the any unused port but this way it spreads the load over the entire buss bar.
I guess that's the way I do it on my power hungry 3D planes, so I just keep the same setup on my warbirds.
Kelly


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