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The videos of the 35% Edge are up.
http://wildharerc.com/downloads/vide...ra_35_edge.wmv
http://wildharerc.com/downloads/vide...are_edge_2.wmv
TF
http://wildharerc.com/downloads/vide...ra_35_edge.wmv
http://wildharerc.com/downloads/vide...are_edge_2.wmv
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Tom thats why I got the 35% Sukhoi it was one of Akind And my 50cc edge and my babby edge and my ultimate bipe I like them all because thay where not your run of the mill ARF. I must say A 50cc katana with the farings and all as close to scale would be A great home for my orphend Brison 3.2 with A long tunnel for A tuned pipe and A ringed cowel that would be sweet. Any way I like what you have been producing so far so good keep up the great work and I will keep buying them.
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I have the third 35% Edge but unfortunately I haven't been home long enough to do anything with it.
As for the Katana design, SD models had been the company that had been making the 35% planes. As many know SD was bought out by Thunder Tiger and the SD line of planes was supposed to be hitting the market again in mid May. Looks like this has fallen into the crapper after most of the previous employees left the Thunder Tiger operation to rejoin their previous leader in a new upstart manufacturing business. At least for now, nobody has a clue when the SD models will hit the market again, if ever.
I know who did the design for the SD 35% Katama and he has the plans and working drawings. I also know that he has the authority to re-use those plans and other tools to make the kit on his own if desired. With the right incentive he just might cut them loose. The SD planes flew great but had a problem with people in the shipping department failing to mate the wing and fuselage boxes up with the correct part numbers. That's why they had a fit problem. Had the eastern shippers simply matched fuse box one with wing bx 1, then move on to fuse box 2 with wing box 2 there never would have been fit issues.
As for the Katana design, SD models had been the company that had been making the 35% planes. As many know SD was bought out by Thunder Tiger and the SD line of planes was supposed to be hitting the market again in mid May. Looks like this has fallen into the crapper after most of the previous employees left the Thunder Tiger operation to rejoin their previous leader in a new upstart manufacturing business. At least for now, nobody has a clue when the SD models will hit the market again, if ever.
I know who did the design for the SD 35% Katama and he has the plans and working drawings. I also know that he has the authority to re-use those plans and other tools to make the kit on his own if desired. With the right incentive he just might cut them loose. The SD planes flew great but had a problem with people in the shipping department failing to mate the wing and fuselage boxes up with the correct part numbers. That's why they had a fit problem. Had the eastern shippers simply matched fuse box one with wing bx 1, then move on to fuse box 2 with wing box 2 there never would have been fit issues.
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I haven't been working on anything really extraordinary, mostly just tweaking the older designs to adapt to changing markets.
I have the 35% Edge 540 ready to go, but the market for that one seems a little limited. Am I wrong? I had 4 of the originals and still have 1, that seems to indicate that a 35% Edge is not what the world wants.
I have been considering a 50cc Giles, but again the market seems narrow. We are always fighting the sheep mentality which says if someone important says something is good then everyone has to have it. I like a little variety, not just flying a Yak.
I am also considering changing the 35% Extra 300 to a 260, and I'm curious about opinions of that move.
TF
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So what is the latest? What new planes can we look forward to?
So what is the latest? What new planes can we look forward to?
I have the 35% Edge 540 ready to go, but the market for that one seems a little limited. Am I wrong? I had 4 of the originals and still have 1, that seems to indicate that a 35% Edge is not what the world wants.
I have been considering a 50cc Giles, but again the market seems narrow. We are always fighting the sheep mentality which says if someone important says something is good then everyone has to have it. I like a little variety, not just flying a Yak.
I am also considering changing the 35% Extra 300 to a 260, and I'm curious about opinions of that move.
TF
I agree with you. Everyone wants to fly the same old Yak that everyone already have.
How about coming out with a really affordable (like the “babies) 25% Velox Revolution, maybe a 25% Stadaucher, or how about a 25% Sukhoi. These are kind of not so common designs in quarter scale out there, but they are excellent acrobats. I suggest you look closely at the quarter scale market since I feel there are a slew of new and very affordable 26cc gas power plants in the market that will be perfect matches plus a whole bunch of 2 stroke glow engines from 120 to 140 sizes. At the last Toledo show I was looking for a better than average 18X6 prop (common to most 26cc engines) and there weren’t any to be found. I believe even you were out of stock last time I enquired. That should give you and idea on how much the 26cc engines are being sold.
Besides the affordability issue there is the transportation angle. I now drive a small compact five door crossover that gives me some great mileage but is somewhat restricted in internal room. Your "Baby" line on models fits perfectly on my vehicle; in fact I can fit two of your 25% planes.
If you come out with a Honda Sukhoi in quarter scale size, sign me up on the waiting list..............
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From: Ofallon,
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I picked up the last 35% Edge prototype this weekend, this is definitely going to be one badass plane. Now I just need to get my project finished up and off the build table so I can work on the Edge.
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I guess that explains why when I called they said it was gone. Take good care of my plane.
Now I'll have to wait until the production models come out.
Now I'll have to wait until the production models come out.
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I agree that a 35% airplane of just about any type is probably the most popular plane to get now a days , if it's light and built with a DA-85. It's a great combo at a great price compared to a regular 100cc build.
I also agree that a 35% katana would be a great wildhare addition. Besides Krill ( which is expensive as hell ) and SD ( which might never be available again )....there isn't any larger katana's out there that i'm aware of.
Tom , i think the pocket hinging on a 35% katana would be an awesome addition , along with some really good sized throw surfaces for us 3D guys , and to be honest......i'd go with a little more wild scheme than some of the other airplanes out there. To be honest , i really like looking at the Dietrichs because of their color schemes , BUT i love the wildhare construction and your service is top notch. this is why i stick with wildhare.
I think a 35% katana would be a great addition. and they are a really good looking aircraft as well.
I also agree that a 35% katana would be a great wildhare addition. Besides Krill ( which is expensive as hell ) and SD ( which might never be available again )....there isn't any larger katana's out there that i'm aware of.
Tom , i think the pocket hinging on a 35% katana would be an awesome addition , along with some really good sized throw surfaces for us 3D guys , and to be honest......i'd go with a little more wild scheme than some of the other airplanes out there. To be honest , i really like looking at the Dietrichs because of their color schemes , BUT i love the wildhare construction and your service is top notch. this is why i stick with wildhare.
I think a 35% katana would be a great addition. and they are a really good looking aircraft as well.
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ORIGINAL: ciressarg
A plug and play tunnel for a single ks 1090 would be nice in your 35% Extra, whether it be a 260 or 300.
Eric
A plug and play tunnel for a single ks 1090 would be nice in your 35% Extra, whether it be a 260 or 300.
Eric
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A little bit of info. The SD Katana out flys a Krill by a country mile, but the Krill is a lot prettier. SD was bought by Thunder Tiger and was supposed to have kits back on the market by mid May. A little birdie with a lot of insider info told me that most all the old SD employees quit the new Thunder Tiger company and are now working for a new outfit closely resembling the old SD. They took all the working drawings with them. The first psuedo SD plane has already arrived in the U.S. for flight testing by their chief test pilot and designer.
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Hey Tom,
What do you think about my suggestion of a "Baby" Sukhoi in the Honda Scheme? Have you given any consideration of any more 25% models coming out in the future? I will also consider a 25% Katana or Staudacher.
Right now there are not many options in quarter scale size for gas powered planes. The only other options available at right now are the new models designed around the 35cc-45cc size gas engines or 1.6 to 2.20 glow engines. These airplanes are just the right size for those who do not have a large vehicle to transport the slightly larger 50cc planes.
There are a lot of folks like me that are rather interested in the smaller 25% planes for economical and transportability reasons. In overall sales, did the "babies" sold out the same or better compared with the larger planes? There's a lot of interest out at our club for more quarter scale bunnies. I hope you give this idea some consideration.
What do you think about my suggestion of a "Baby" Sukhoi in the Honda Scheme? Have you given any consideration of any more 25% models coming out in the future? I will also consider a 25% Katana or Staudacher.
Right now there are not many options in quarter scale size for gas powered planes. The only other options available at right now are the new models designed around the 35cc-45cc size gas engines or 1.6 to 2.20 glow engines. These airplanes are just the right size for those who do not have a large vehicle to transport the slightly larger 50cc planes.
There are a lot of folks like me that are rather interested in the smaller 25% planes for economical and transportability reasons. In overall sales, did the "babies" sold out the same or better compared with the larger planes? There's a lot of interest out at our club for more quarter scale bunnies. I hope you give this idea some consideration.
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Good idea Airtech.
And pat......the krills fly ( not very good ? ) Hmmm?....i thought these we're supposed to be an awesome flying airplane. Your right , they do cost a lot , maybe that's why people say they fly great? You don't want people to think your $1500.00-$3000.00 airframe flies worse than your .40 sized trainer do ya?
And pat......the krills fly ( not very good ? ) Hmmm?....i thought these we're supposed to be an awesome flying airplane. Your right , they do cost a lot , maybe that's why people say they fly great? You don't want people to think your $1500.00-$3000.00 airframe flies worse than your .40 sized trainer do ya?
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From: Flower Mound (near Dallas),
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Hey Tom,
What do you think about my suggestion of a "Baby" Sukhoi in the Honda Scheme? Have you given any consideration of any more 25% models coming out in the future?
Hey Tom,
What do you think about my suggestion of a "Baby" Sukhoi in the Honda Scheme? Have you given any consideration of any more 25% models coming out in the future?
Maybe.
TF
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ORIGINAL: rctom
Not a bad idea. I have been looking for a decent 26cc engine and I think I have found a good one, so those two items would go together well.
Maybe.
TF
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Hey Tom,
What do you think about my suggestion of a "Baby" Sukhoi in the Honda Scheme? Have you given any consideration of any more 25% models coming out in the future?
Hey Tom,
What do you think about my suggestion of a "Baby" Sukhoi in the Honda Scheme? Have you given any consideration of any more 25% models coming out in the future?
Maybe.
TF
That sounds great. BTW I have been looking to purchase another 26cc engine lately. I love my Evolution 26GT but honestly I believe they are somewhat overpriced due to being built in the Czech Republic.
If you come out with a Chinese built 26cc with good power to weight ratio at a decent price, you can place me in the waiting list. How about a Sukhoi plane+engine “combo�

Here a couple of photos of my Baby Edge with the Evolution 26GT, 2 ea. 5945's on elevators HS-645MG's on rudder and ailerons, HS-225Mg on throttle and HS-82MG on choke. 9303 radio for guidance, with a JR PCM receiver and 2 ea. Fromecos 2400mAh LiIons for receiver and ignition power. I am running a Futaba MSA-10 matchbox for the elevator servos and added a CF landing gear from Graphtech. A truly sweet flying model that will fly the entire IMAC Basic and Sportsman sequence and will 3D with the best. A really enjoyable bird to fly, congratulations for a great product and the best service from any company in the business.
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I vote for a 260 I'd go both 50cc and 35%.
Also I think a 50cc cub would be cool.
And I think you need to make a 30% Redbull Sukhoi. As well for your extra.
Also I think a 50cc cub would be cool.
And I think you need to make a 30% Redbull Sukhoi. As well for your extra.
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From: Suwanee,
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Man I havent been arround here in a while and I havent even had Time to fly much lately.
But This 35% Edge it's awsome any of the guys having the 28% will love to step up to this,, what I loive about it it's you only have to get a new engine like the DA-85 I got then if you already have hs 5955 or 8611 on you 28% move them over the 35% and you are set!!!!
35% Edge is awsome I have to get some more flyign on it and more video for you guys outhere,,this plane flys so easy that on my maidn flight landing was a harrier landing!!!!
But This 35% Edge it's awsome any of the guys having the 28% will love to step up to this,, what I loive about it it's you only have to get a new engine like the DA-85 I got then if you already have hs 5955 or 8611 on you 28% move them over the 35% and you are set!!!!
35% Edge is awsome I have to get some more flyign on it and more video for you guys outhere,,this plane flys so easy that on my maidn flight landing was a harrier landing!!!!
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You know......i just re-read my post above , and didn't even mention an extra 260! I like the katana's too , but i would rather have a nicely built , pocket hinged , 100cc ( would use a DA-85 anyways ) 260 with some wild scheme on it any day.
TOM......also , i think you should take pre-orders on some of these in an all white version , so we can do up our own scheme. In fact i wish more ARF companies would do this. I don't want to own a bird that looks exactly like joe smith's......ya know?
TOM......also , i think you should take pre-orders on some of these in an all white version , so we can do up our own scheme. In fact i wish more ARF companies would do this. I don't want to own a bird that looks exactly like joe smith's......ya know?
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Been that route a few times before. He always ends up with most of the white ones sitting on the shelf because the people that originally wanted them ended up buying a color version. Tom will still do some all white but they are a very small percentage of the container total.
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From: Flower Mound (near Dallas),
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OK here's a few bits of information.
The next batch of the 100CC Extras will be 260s instead of 300s. No real change except to the looks. Anybody that wants a solid color one can order it now, must be prepaid though. They ought to be here in about 3 months, figure just after labor day. I don't know what scheme I will use but it will be different from the 300.
I have ordered a small batch of 35% Edges also, again scheme unknown.
There will be an 88" 50cc Edge 540 with new scheme. The 84" 540T will continue to be available.
There will be an 87" Extra 260 50cc with a new scheme, the 84" Extra 300 will be available also for a while.
This was all in the works before this thread got started, but the input has confirmed that I'm on the right track.
TF
The next batch of the 100CC Extras will be 260s instead of 300s. No real change except to the looks. Anybody that wants a solid color one can order it now, must be prepaid though. They ought to be here in about 3 months, figure just after labor day. I don't know what scheme I will use but it will be different from the 300.
I have ordered a small batch of 35% Edges also, again scheme unknown.
There will be an 88" 50cc Edge 540 with new scheme. The 84" 540T will continue to be available.
There will be an 87" Extra 260 50cc with a new scheme, the 84" Extra 300 will be available also for a while.
This was all in the works before this thread got started, but the input has confirmed that I'm on the right track.
TF





