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Old 05-13-2008, 08:35 AM
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So what is the latest? What new planes can we look forward to?
Old 05-13-2008, 10:59 AM
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So what is the latest? What new planes can we look forward to?
I haven't been working on anything really extraordinary, mostly just tweaking the older designs to adapt to changing markets.

I have the 35% Edge 540 ready to go, but the market for that one seems a little limited. Am I wrong? I had 4 of the originals and still have 1, that seems to indicate that a 35% Edge is not what the world wants.

I have been considering a 50cc Giles, but again the market seems narrow. We are always fighting the sheep mentality which says if someone important says something is good then everyone has to have it. I like a little variety, not just flying a Yak.

I am also considering changing the 35% Extra 300 to a 260, and I'm curious about opinions of that move.

TF
Old 05-13-2008, 11:39 AM
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I don't know, I'm kinda partial to the "Not what everyone else has" mentality. Thats why I bought the WH Sukhoi, round cowl plane but NOT a Yak[8D]. Of course I still have people say "That's a cool looking Yak"......"It's NOT a YAK!!!!"

Ever thought of doing another biplane? Pitts Python maybe?

Whatever you do I'm sure it will be cool and just one more plane I will want!
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I also like something a bit different...

How about picking the best overall flying fuse, making several wing sets for it, Extra wings, Edge, Giles and folks could order up which version they wanted for their flying styles??

I think the Extra moving to a 260 would be nice, as well as a larger Ultimate that would work with the DA-85.

Old 05-13-2008, 01:28 PM
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I vote for a 50cc Giles. I would really like to have the 40% version but don't really have the room for another big plane and my 35% Sukhoi is so perfect that I don't want to quite flying it. Besides, I have a spare DA50 that would love to be in a Giles.
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I also like something a bit different...

How about picking the best overall flying fuse, making several wing sets for it, Extra wings, Edge, Giles and folks could order up which version they wanted for their flying styles??
I already have done that with the 35% Edge, when I tell people about it I am met with loud snoring. I don't think people see it as a big plus.

A bigger biplane would sell more slowly than the 50cc.

TF
Old 05-13-2008, 03:28 PM
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A 35 percent Extra 260 in a scale scheme would be nice, as long as it flies as good as the 35 percent 300! My best flying plane to date! What happened to the MX2?
Old 05-13-2008, 05:20 PM
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A 35 percent Extra 260 in a scale scheme would be nice, as long as it flies as good as the 35 percent 300! My best flying plane to date! What happened to the MX2?
The mX2 was never produced because I just don't need it. I have 3 100cc planes now and a 4th waiting in the wings, there is a limit to how many planes we can carry. Remember I can't buy 2 or 3, I have to order 50 planes at a crack, and I just didn't see enough potential.

When you say "scale scheme", give me an example. I had the 33% Patty Wagstaff 260's before and nobody wanted them. The other schemes sold well, but the Patty's did not move at all.

So what other scale scheme did you have in mind?

TF
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Anybody have an interest in a 35-37% Katana? The one I'm thinking of out flies the Krill version.
Old 05-14-2008, 08:26 AM
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I think the 35% edge would be good. I think whatever you decide on you should design it with a single aileron servo. I know that makes some people leary, but I fly my sukhoi with only one 5955 per aileron and have absolutely no problems, because the aileron is stiff enough to handle it. I think if people knew how well the mid wing cap flies they would sell out today!
Old 05-14-2008, 08:38 AM
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The 35% Edge is already designed with a single servo in each wing.

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I think the 35% Edge is due for a customer color scheme design contest.
Old 05-14-2008, 04:21 PM
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A plug and play tunnel for a single ks 1090 would be nice in your 35% Extra, whether it be a 260 or 300.

Eric
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A 35% super decathlon could be interesting.
Old 05-14-2008, 07:29 PM
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The 35% 300 in a 260 canopy would be nice. I love the look of the 300 but the canopy seems to long for some reason.
Old 05-14-2008, 07:35 PM
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How about a pattern ship that meets the 11lb and 2X2 rule and uses the ZDZ40 FAI engine?
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I think a 33-35% Katana would be a nice change.
Try it in a 50cc version if they sell better!
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ORIGINAL: CH3CH2OH

A 35% super decathlon could be interesting.

im down with that program

- its an aerobat
- it could run on any 100cc engine
- nice alternative to the rest of the crowds Cubs etc

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Yep a big Kat would be nice. I'll take one of those.
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The 50cc Katana would be great !!!
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I think the 35% Edge is due for a customer color scheme design contest.
If i may I have to agree here... Personally I haven't really liked any of the recent covering schemes at all. The only one in the 35% line I liked was the yellow and blue Giles.. and personally would have prefered it purple again. The starburst scheme regardless of color was not appealing.

The 50cc scheme the edge scheme was nice but so many people bought it over the years it got kind of old... kind of like hearing a good song too many times. The rest just didn't do it for me on any model.

In the 41% I really love the flame scheme.. the others again don't appeal to me at all.

Please take this as trying to be helpful with some honest input.. I realize you can't please everyone I am just sharing my opinion here.


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Hey Tom, how much for that 35% Edge???
Old 05-14-2008, 11:27 PM
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Hey Tom, how much for that 35% Edge???
$575 with a hardware kit.

TF
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Sorry I am a little confused. So You have a 35% edge available now? any pictures or specs I'm definately interested
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ORIGINAL: Ih82crash

Sorry I am a little confused. So You have a 35% edge available now? any pictures or specs I'm definately interested
I'll go through the story again.

We have designed a 35% Edge, it's been flying for a long time. 102.5" wing span, 96" length, same design specs as most of our other planes. It's very light at 23-24 pounds with DA-85, uses a single servo on each aileron.

I had 4 of them built in the last container I received to put out for customer testing and for promotional purposes. 3 were sold, I have one left. The covering scheme is not complete, it is done like our 84" Edge 540T except the tops of the wings are all white and the h-stabs are red, blue, and white.

At some point this will become a production plane with a new color scheme, so this last plane won't be an orphan.

You can see videos of it in another thread here, Charua has one and has flown the heck out of it. Same for Kevin Elder who did a review;

http://www.downonthedeckdiscussion.c...76ca408684c926

I'll put up a couple videos soon.

TF

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