Electric Pattern Aircraft Discuss epowered pattern aircraft in this forum

New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

Reply
Old 02-20-2011, 12:46 PM
  #126
lyka
 
lyka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: MALAGA, SPAIN
Posts: 74
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

In action.... ( Spanish Version)...coming soon in English version ( is in the oven )


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3hmBa1ZsI[/youtube]



ENGLISH ( sub-titled ) ready !!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JouIZ9y92mM[/youtube]
lyka is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2011, 07:49 PM
  #127
flyboy91
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: monroe, MI
Posts: 675
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

Tonight my Spark Evo took to the sky!!!!
It was not a very good day to fly as the winds were high and the sky was very dark but I had to fly my spark to get it in the air.
My setup is as follows
Hacker C50-14XL
Castle Ice 80HV Lite
Thunder Power 10s5000 Pro Lites
Futaba BLS551 Aileron servos
Futaba BLS651 Elevator Servos
Futaba BLS352 Rudder Servo
Thunder Power 2s730 mah receiver pack
Castle BEC for switch, until I get my Digiswitch in.
Falcon 21x14 carbon prop

Final weight was 4.75 Kilos RTF.

The model flew extremely well with very little trim needed. The wing incidence is already set for you and I was worried about not enough positive in the wing and I was wrong. After trimming the model I was able to tell the model was flying with a nice fuse angle and not tail low that I was worried about.

I started to run the plane through the sequences and notice that I needed to increase my aileron throw to achieve the snaps I was looking for. After a bit of playing around with this I was pretty happy with the setup I have. I have to add a bit of down thrust to my model as it pulls ever so slightly to the canopy on a long upline. I will do that tonight and try and get out and fly tomorrow as well.
The elevator authority is great on the model, seems to be really happy even in the bumpy conditions we had tonight. Rudder authority is amazing!! It feels great for stall turns and all other rudder demanding maneuvers( Figure M in P sequence). I have cut the expo down from -60 on the Spark Dynamic to -45 on the Evo.

More news to follow.

I must thank Darin Pierce a ton for finishing off the airplane for me. I was sent to Yuma to do some testing for the Army and could not finish the airplane off and Darin offered to put the plane together for me. I returned home Sunday night and went to his house Monday night and finished it off. Thanks Darin!!!
Andrew
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	nk28159.jpg
Views:	165
Size:	2.48 MB
ID:	1568503   Click image for larger version

Name:	Lj23331.jpg
Views:	91
Size:	149.4 KB
ID:	1568504  
flyboy91 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2011, 07:44 AM
  #128
dlpeirce
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Lehi, UT
Posts: 15
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

Andrew,
You are very welcome, I was glad to help. Congratulations on the new plane! It looks awesome!
Darin
dlpeirce is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2011, 11:30 AM
  #129
kochj
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Victoria, MN
Posts: 3,933
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

Andrew, Any chance getting a gas version in your color scheme?
kochj is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2011, 06:33 PM
  #130
flyboy91
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: monroe, MI
Posts: 675
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

kochj,

I will check with Krill about the progess of the Glow Spark Version. Once I hear from you I'll let you know. As far as my color scheme I will check with him as well. I know he did this for someone else.

Andrew
flyboy91 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2011, 10:29 AM
  #131
kochj
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Victoria, MN
Posts: 3,933
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

Thankyou.... It appears that Chief aircraft has the glow version instock??
kochj is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2011, 01:06 PM
  #132
woodie
 
woodie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Placerville, CA
Posts: 1,147
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

Looking good so far!!! Has anyone actually measured the incidence and thrust setup on the plane as it comes from the factory? If so, would you mind sharing with us?

Thanks
Woodie
Team Acme LG
woodie is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2011, 12:52 PM
  #133
joenella
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Odense, DENMARK
Posts: 184
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....


Quote:
ORIGINAL: kochj

Thankyou.... It appears that Chief aircraft has the glow version instock??
I do not think anybody have the EVO for glow instock As Ivo told me yesterday, he will soon be ready with this version.
joenella is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2011, 02:27 PM
  #134
flyboy91
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: monroe, MI
Posts: 675
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

Last night I was able to get 3 more flights on the Spark Evo after work and I must say its a pretty awesome airplane. I have found the CG I like which is 215mm back from the leading edge of the wing, or about 8.5" back. This seems to be a perfect spot to for zero coupling and good authority of the airplane. I have messed with the throws for good snaps and found them to be 24 degrees of ailerons, 12 degrees of elevator, and 24 degrees of rudder. I am getting more and more comfortable with this airplane that the other spark dynamic has been left at the house!!
Here are a few pictures of the airplane.

Andrew

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Nl29722.jpg
Views:	52
Size:	213.8 KB
ID:	1571851   Click image for larger version

Name:	Zx69888.jpg
Views:	65
Size:	234.2 KB
ID:	1571852  
flyboy91 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 11:46 AM
  #135
joenella
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Odense, DENMARK
Posts: 184
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

Distance from bottom rudder to rudder horn? Like the dynamic 150 mm up?
joenella is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 12:00 PM
  #136
flyboy91
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: monroe, MI
Posts: 675
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

When I get home I'll measure that for you and will let you know.

Andrew
flyboy91 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 12:38 PM
  #137
Spark09
 
Spark09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Amersfoort, NETHERLANDS
Posts: 38
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

Noticed that the wooden block for the rudderhorns in the rudder are very small, becarefull and meassure exactly like Andrew says.
The rudder is very thin and if you are off the balsa block you are screwed..
I meassured between 150/160mm from the bottom of the rudder.
Spark09 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 11:18 PM
  #138
joenella
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Odense, DENMARK
Posts: 184
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

Look here
No wonder why it has been difficult
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Us55399.jpg
Views:	120
Size:	19.9 KB
ID:	1579005  
joenella is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2011, 03:11 AM
  #139
Spark09
 
Spark09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Amersfoort, NETHERLANDS
Posts: 38
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

Strange place for the rudderhorns..
Had not seen this picture before.
I looked at Jonathans and Andrews plane



Spark09 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2011, 03:32 PM
  #140
lyka
 
lyka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: MALAGA, SPAIN
Posts: 74
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

About these questions, our set-up...

cheers...
Attached Files
File Type: pdf
Li21074.pdf (12.4 KB, 107 views)
lyka is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2011, 08:00 PM
  #141
joenella
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Odense, DENMARK
Posts: 184
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

No right hand thrust build in?
joenella is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2011, 08:10 PM
  #142
flyboy91
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: monroe, MI
Posts: 675
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

There is about 1 degree of right thrust in there. I run about another 1 degree of right thrust in there.

Andrew
flyboy91 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2011, 04:08 AM
  #143
urs k.
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: zürich, SWITZERLAND
Posts: 27
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

andrew, could you report about the behavior of the bls651?( its said they are for cars)
thx
urs k. is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2011, 05:50 AM
  #144
rcpattern
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Great Mills, MD
Posts: 2,860
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

The car servos work great on electric planes. On glow they tend to wear a little faster, but on electric they work really well.

Arch
rcpattern is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2011, 07:52 AM
  #145
urs k.
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: zürich, SWITZERLAND
Posts: 27
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

hi arch, thx a lot.
thats really excellent news!
i run all my planes with bls, i do love them, bls 152, 153, 351, 451.....but the bls 153 was a very painful experiance. the gear breaks very quickly...not a single case, i have 20 pieces of them and they all failed. costed endless money, nerves and a few planes! they were used in planes in wich normaly a hitec 5085 is enough.
well, i am happy i can replace them with the 651 (metal gears).
another question, sorry, a little offtopic,is it possible to put the metal gear from the 651 into 153?

urs k. is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 08:13 PM
  #146
joenella
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Odense, DENMARK
Posts: 184
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

Yeeesss !! Maiden my EVO yesterday. As reported earlier it is very sensitiv on the rudder especially around center point.
joenella is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2011, 07:16 AM
  #147
Daveeast
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Dubai UAE
Posts: 38
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

Its very quite here, is there alot of trimming going on, whats the verdict?
Daveeast is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2011, 10:52 AM
  #148
Spark09
 
Spark09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Amersfoort, NETHERLANDS
Posts: 38
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

Hello Dave,

I have about 90 flights with my Evo and I must say that it is one of the best flying planes out there.
Cause of the smaller ailerons compared to the older Spark it snaps a little less then the older Spark but with full aileron and a 38mm horn it does the trick.
Flying is much smoother en precise, integrated figures like rolling loops are much easier.
Also the rudder feeling is much improved with the curve shaped rudder.

Current setup:
Hacker C50-14XL
Schulze 32.80KA
Mezlik 21x13E
Hyperion 25C 5000 10S packs
JR8811 on rudder
JR3328 on elevator
JR8231 on ailerons

Using around 40% expo on ailerons and elevator and about 80% on the rudder.
Differential is -24% for perfect rolls.

Flightbattery is just behind the landing gear as I like the c.g a little backwards, pretty much the same as the older Spark.

Last week I mounted a big Axiome like canalizer on the canopy and it seems that the plane flies better with strong winds, less shakey.
Currently setting up different flightmodes for snaprolls, spin and stallturn..


Cheers,

Roy



Spark09 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2011, 01:32 PM
  #149
Daveeast
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Dubai UAE
Posts: 38
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

Roy

Nice, good to get some feed back.

Good Luck over the weekend will see you Saturday.

Cheers Dave
Daveeast is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2011, 01:43 PM
  #150
Spark09
 
Spark09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Amersfoort, NETHERLANDS
Posts: 38
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: New Krill Spark Evo I- Build Thread.....

We will be there with the 2 new biplanes..
We leave Thursday afternoon and arrive in the evening.
Looking forward to the contest, hope the weather will be nice
Spark09 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:37 AM.