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I put a coreless on my throttle and it does make a differance. Its a lot better!!
I put a coreless on my throttle and it does make a differance. Its a lot better!!
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You will not need a kill servo as the kill switch from smartfly goes between the battery and the ign. module and hooks to a channel in the reciever. I put mine on the landing gear switch and when I actuate the landing gear switch it turns off the power to the ign. module. That then shuts the engine down safely and easily.
You might be thinking of a choke servo which you can use and it can be any servo you want but is really not needed. There is a alternate method described in this thread or the other thread on how to setup the choke so it can be activated without a servo. It was a real easy setup using a servo arm screwed to the engine box and two pieces of wire. You either pushed it on or off. It was a real simple solution.
What radio are you using if it is a computerized unit you will not need the matchboxes just use the mixing in the radio to setup the servos.
Throttle servo is really up to you I ended up using a digital servo I had laying around.
Nothing wrong with MPI switches but I have read (this is my first gasser too) that they cannot handle the vibrations of a gasser and will fail.
I have MPI's on everyone of my glow airplanes and just love them but I went with a HD switch that NOBS batteries sells. CERMARK also makes a HD switch that will work too.
I ended up purchasing a Jersey Model fuler and one of their fuel dots. The nice thing about their fuel dot is that it is sealed until the other end makes connection so you have no leakage back after fueling. The fueler also has a second piece of hose that you hookup to the overflow/fuel vent line and that will allow you to capture the overflow in lieu of allowing it to spill on the ground. The valve is a little expensive but nice to have. Good quality stuff.
http://www.jerseymodeler.com/id29.html
If you watch for it on the unamed websites that feature giant scale aircraft you might find a discount or so from Jersey they do that once and awhile.
John
You might be thinking of a choke servo which you can use and it can be any servo you want but is really not needed. There is a alternate method described in this thread or the other thread on how to setup the choke so it can be activated without a servo. It was a real easy setup using a servo arm screwed to the engine box and two pieces of wire. You either pushed it on or off. It was a real simple solution.
What radio are you using if it is a computerized unit you will not need the matchboxes just use the mixing in the radio to setup the servos.
Throttle servo is really up to you I ended up using a digital servo I had laying around.
Nothing wrong with MPI switches but I have read (this is my first gasser too) that they cannot handle the vibrations of a gasser and will fail.
I have MPI's on everyone of my glow airplanes and just love them but I went with a HD switch that NOBS batteries sells. CERMARK also makes a HD switch that will work too.
I ended up purchasing a Jersey Model fuler and one of their fuel dots. The nice thing about their fuel dot is that it is sealed until the other end makes connection so you have no leakage back after fueling. The fueler also has a second piece of hose that you hookup to the overflow/fuel vent line and that will allow you to capture the overflow in lieu of allowing it to spill on the ground. The valve is a little expensive but nice to have. Good quality stuff.
http://www.jerseymodeler.com/id29.html
If you watch for it on the unamed websites that feature giant scale aircraft you might find a discount or so from Jersey they do that once and awhile.
John
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I am making my list...
Engine DA50
Ignition adaptor DA50
Standoffs DA50
drill jig DA50
prop TBM 22x8
spinner truturn
muffler j-tec
kill switch smartfly
throttle servo ??
aileron servo x2 5955tg
elevator servo x2 5955tg
rudder servo 5955tg
kill servo ??
servo extensions
elevator servo arms airwild
rudder servo arm airwild
aileron servo arms airwild
fueler
gas line
batteries x3 TBM
miracle switch x3 MPI
carb plate TBM
Receiver JR
jr matchbox JR
not sure what else i should do...
an opinions? One of my bigger questions is what to use for a throttle and kill servo... Can I use a standard servo or do I have to go big on these too?
I am making my list...
Engine DA50
Ignition adaptor DA50
Standoffs DA50
drill jig DA50
prop TBM 22x8
spinner truturn
muffler j-tec
kill switch smartfly
throttle servo ??
aileron servo x2 5955tg
elevator servo x2 5955tg
rudder servo 5955tg
kill servo ??
servo extensions
elevator servo arms airwild
rudder servo arm airwild
aileron servo arms airwild
fueler
gas line
batteries x3 TBM
miracle switch x3 MPI
carb plate TBM
Receiver JR
jr matchbox JR
not sure what else i should do...
an opinions? One of my bigger questions is what to use for a throttle and kill servo... Can I use a standard servo or do I have to go big on these too?
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RE: BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
ORIGINAL: jgraham10
You will not need a kill servo as the kill switch from smartfly goes between the battery and the ign. module and hooks to a channel in the reciever. I put mine on the landing gear switch and when I actuate the landing gear switch it turns off the power to the ign. module. That then shuts the engine down safely and easily.
You might be thinking of a choke servo which you can use and it can be any servo you want but is really not needed. There is a alternate method described in this thread or the other thread on how to setup the choke so it can be activated without a servo. It was a real easy setup using a servo arm screwed to the engine box and two pieces of wire. You either pushed it on or off. It was a real simple solution.
What radio are you using if it is a computerized unit you will not need the matchboxes just use the mixing in the radio to setup the servos.
Throttle servo is really up to you I ended up using a digital servo I had laying around.
Nothing wrong with MPI switches but I have read (this is my first gasser too) that they cannot handle the vibrations of a gasser and will fail.
I have MPI's on everyone of my glow airplanes and just love them but I went with a HD switch that NOBS batteries sells. CERMARK also makes a HD switch that will work too.
I ended up purchasing a Jersey Model fuler and one of their fuel dots. The nice thing about their fuel dot is that it is sealed until the other end makes connection so you have no leakage back after fueling. The fueler also has a second piece of hose that you hookup to the overflow/fuel vent line and that will allow you to capture the overflow in lieu of allowing it to spill on the ground. The valve is a little expensive but nice to have. Good quality stuff.
http://www.jerseymodeler.com/id29.html
If you watch for it on the unamed websites that feature giant scale aircraft you might find a discount or so from Jersey they do that once and awhile.
John
You will not need a kill servo as the kill switch from smartfly goes between the battery and the ign. module and hooks to a channel in the reciever. I put mine on the landing gear switch and when I actuate the landing gear switch it turns off the power to the ign. module. That then shuts the engine down safely and easily.
You might be thinking of a choke servo which you can use and it can be any servo you want but is really not needed. There is a alternate method described in this thread or the other thread on how to setup the choke so it can be activated without a servo. It was a real easy setup using a servo arm screwed to the engine box and two pieces of wire. You either pushed it on or off. It was a real simple solution.
What radio are you using if it is a computerized unit you will not need the matchboxes just use the mixing in the radio to setup the servos.
Throttle servo is really up to you I ended up using a digital servo I had laying around.
Nothing wrong with MPI switches but I have read (this is my first gasser too) that they cannot handle the vibrations of a gasser and will fail.
I have MPI's on everyone of my glow airplanes and just love them but I went with a HD switch that NOBS batteries sells. CERMARK also makes a HD switch that will work too.
I ended up purchasing a Jersey Model fuler and one of their fuel dots. The nice thing about their fuel dot is that it is sealed until the other end makes connection so you have no leakage back after fueling. The fueler also has a second piece of hose that you hookup to the overflow/fuel vent line and that will allow you to capture the overflow in lieu of allowing it to spill on the ground. The valve is a little expensive but nice to have. Good quality stuff.
http://www.jerseymodeler.com/id29.html
If you watch for it on the unamed websites that feature giant scale aircraft you might find a discount or so from Jersey they do that once and awhile.
John
ORIGINAL: avatar71
I am making my list...
Engine DA50
Ignition adaptor DA50
Standoffs DA50
drill jig DA50
prop TBM 22x8
spinner truturn
muffler j-tec
kill switch smartfly
throttle servo ??
aileron servo x2 5955tg
elevator servo x2 5955tg
rudder servo 5955tg
kill servo ??
servo extensions
elevator servo arms airwild
rudder servo arm airwild
aileron servo arms airwild
fueler
gas line
batteries x3 TBM
miracle switch x3 MPI
carb plate TBM
Receiver JR
jr matchbox JR
not sure what else i should do...
an opinions? One of my bigger questions is what to use for a throttle and kill servo... Can I use a standard servo or do I have to go big on these too?
I am making my list...
Engine DA50
Ignition adaptor DA50
Standoffs DA50
drill jig DA50
prop TBM 22x8
spinner truturn
muffler j-tec
kill switch smartfly
throttle servo ??
aileron servo x2 5955tg
elevator servo x2 5955tg
rudder servo 5955tg
kill servo ??
servo extensions
elevator servo arms airwild
rudder servo arm airwild
aileron servo arms airwild
fueler
gas line
batteries x3 TBM
miracle switch x3 MPI
carb plate TBM
Receiver JR
jr matchbox JR
not sure what else i should do...
an opinions? One of my bigger questions is what to use for a throttle and kill servo... Can I use a standard servo or do I have to go big on these too?
I too have used the MPI's for years now and never had a problem with them until this year. Vibration did cause the plastic back retaining cover to come off thus turning off the switch which was for my IGN. Cost me my Yak as I was doing rolling harriers on the deck. No airspeed or altitude to save it.
I will say that those switches were four years old and had at least a thousand flights on them but there's no fail "on" for that situation. I still think there an OK switch but I prefer the Fromeco reg's and HD switches. On all my old MPI's switches I still have, I take my old soldering iron and fuse the plastic back retainer to the switch case.
Ken
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RE: BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
Avatar71,
I found this article on the Team Pilots page from Don Sczcur:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6612076/tm.htm
Emphasis is on Step 2 and 3 for separate aileron and elevator servo setup. Hope this helps.
I found this article on the Team Pilots page from Don Sczcur:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6612076/tm.htm
Emphasis is on Step 2 and 3 for separate aileron and elevator servo setup. Hope this helps.
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If you have a significant other, I've found it is better to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission when it comes to purchasing hobby supplies.
woohoo.. one more post to 100, only taken like 3 years![X(]
woohoo.. one more post to 100, only taken like 3 years![X(]
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RE: BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
Anybody got the firewall with the thrust lines marked?
I got a blank one and trying to find the measurement for the horizontal line (how far from the bottom) and the vertical line (how far from the left).
Thanks.
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RE: BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
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Anybody got the firewall with the thrust lines marked?
I got a blank one and trying to find the measurement for the horizontal line (how far from the bottom) and the vertical line (how far from the left).
Thanks.
Anybody got the firewall with the thrust lines marked?
I got a blank one and trying to find the measurement for the horizontal line (how far from the bottom) and the vertical line (how far from the left).
Thanks.
yeah, mine is blank too...
Additionally, would the futaba s9156 be a good choice for servo as well? 340 oz-in at 6v...[X(]
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RE: BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
Look on this thread:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_66...mpage_4/tm.htm
Post 82. That has the dimensions for the firewall.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_66...mpage_4/tm.htm
Post 82. That has the dimensions for the firewall.
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RE: BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
Futaba 9156 is fine. I've flown this plane in the past with JR 8411s (188oz) with no problem.
Now using the Tower 170s (clone of Hitec 5955) all over.
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yeah, mine is blank too...
Additionally, would the futaba s9156 be a good choice for servo as well? 340 oz-in at 6v...[X(]
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Anybody got the firewall with the thrust lines marked?
I got a blank one and trying to find the measurement for the horizontal line (how far from the bottom) and the vertical line (how far from the left).
Thanks.
Anybody got the firewall with the thrust lines marked?
I got a blank one and trying to find the measurement for the horizontal line (how far from the bottom) and the vertical line (how far from the left).
Thanks.
yeah, mine is blank too...
Additionally, would the futaba s9156 be a good choice for servo as well? 340 oz-in at 6v...[X(]
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RE: BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
Hi, I really appreciate if someone could tell me (more or less) how long I may need to order titanium links for the ailerons and elevators. I have used the original carbon fiber from this kit for another plane. THANKS AB
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Funny you should mention, I am putting one together and was working on installing hinges and linkages today. I hope these pictures help. I measured end to end because I don't know what kind of ball links you will be using.
Richard
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If I remember correctly, the elevators was too long for turnbuckles...
If I remember correctly, the elevators was too long for turnbuckles...
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RE: BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
i am flying this plane with a da50 and a tbm 22x8 prop. i was told by pau that a 22x8 is the best overall prop for this plane. i have a pt and a xoar on the way. I have also considered a vess. any opinions on selection?
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What exhaust are you using? Is the engine still breaking in? When I had my similar size/weight extra with DA-50and DA side exhaust I prefered the 22x8 over 23x8 (both NX brand) for my particular flying style. IMO your flying style has a lot to do with it as well.
My PAU Extra with Area 51 is stalled on the workbench while I am doing some lengthy home repairs. I hope to be back on track soon and am looking forward to enjoying the Plane/Engine Combo. I will likely start with the Vess 22A only because I already have it on hand.
WW
My PAU Extra with Area 51 is stalled on the workbench while I am doing some lengthy home repairs. I hope to be back on track soon and am looking forward to enjoying the Plane/Engine Combo. I will likely start with the Vess 22A only because I already have it on hand.
WW
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You will not go wrong with a XOAR 22x8. I am using this with my DA / Bisson pitts mufflers and it is a great combo. All the guys at our field run that XOAR with the the 50cc engines on the PAU Extra aand Edges.
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I finally got mine up today. With Area 51 engine, 2s1p A123-2300 Nimh 4.8 - 1450, no wheel pants, no spinner. 16 lbs 5 oz dry.
The engine runs great and the plane flys light. It was too gusty to get a real feel, my cg needs to go back. I am looking forward to putting some miles on this plane. Note to PAU....the sceme for the bottom of the wing is the best I have had to date.
The engine runs great and the plane flys light. It was too gusty to get a real feel, my cg needs to go back. I am looking forward to putting some miles on this plane. Note to PAU....the sceme for the bottom of the wing is the best I have had to date.