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Old 05-23-2014, 10:44 AM
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Kwik, who was behind the stick on the 109... Sad when it lands better then the wulf given it's history..lol
Old 05-23-2014, 11:33 AM
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Well, I think I waz lazy and too relaxed. If I had been on more ahead of thinks, I think I could have counteracted with the rudder.

Just like Ta152 did when he landed his Platt 109. Ramstein, it was Ta152.

He proves again and again that the 109 isnt harder to land than any other plane, at least not on grass. You just need
to try again and again, hehe.

The Vailly never behaves like this.

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Old 05-23-2014, 12:11 PM
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.. We've all been there I'm sure.
Old 05-24-2014, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by kwik
Well, I think I waz lazy and too relaxed. If I had been on more ahead of thinks, I think I could have counteracted with the rudder.

Just like Ta152 did when he landed his Platt 109. Ramstein, it was Ta152.

He proves again and again that the 109 isnt harder to land than any other plane, at least not on grass. You just need
to try again and again, hehe.

The Vailly never behaves like this.

More 109s where lost to landing accidents than in aerial combat.
Old 05-24-2014, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SrTelemaster150
More 109s where lost to landing accidents than in aerial combat.
Can you support that with hard data?

"FYI checking my 109 incident/accident list mentions less than 1000 takeoff/landing accident out of 26000 cases..."

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/avi...etc-25097.html
Old 05-24-2014, 03:04 PM
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The gear flexes into a toe in situation which promotes and induces the roll over or hop from gear to gear. If the wheels have a slight toe out setting at rest then the gear can flex to about zero degrees which is better than negative toe in.
During a landing if one wheel touches before the other say in a cross wind situation the toe out will help level the plane as it touches down. Ive set up my planes this way for years and I don't have landings likes these.
You just have to try this and see for yourself.
Old 05-24-2014, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kwik
Can you support that with hard data?

"FYI checking my 109 incident/accident list mentions less than 1000 takeoff/landing accident out of 26000 cases..."

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/avi...etc-25097.html
Many AC were lost to strafing runs by the allies as well so that wont count.
Old 05-25-2014, 07:29 PM
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Great day flyin! BTW.. .everyone should have a FW190 hood ornament
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Cute

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Looks to be giving birth there....
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Success! Maiden flight today. Could not have gone any better. This is by far one of the best flying warbirds I've had. Take off and especially landing are as simple as it gets. Tracks straight as an arrow down the runway on take off and is airborne in no time. Approach with 1/2 flaps was rock solid with a nice smooth wheel landing. The EME 55 was really hauling this thing around. Just a great plane.
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Old 05-26-2014, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mpizpilot
success! Maiden flight today. Could not have gone any better. This is by far one of the best flying warbirds i've had. Take off and especially landing are as simple as it gets. Tracks straight as an arrow down the runway on take off and is airborne in no time. Approach with 1/2 flaps was rock solid with a nice smooth wheel landing. The eme 55 was really hauling this thing around. Just a great plane.
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mpizpilot
Success! Maiden flight today. Could not have gone any better. This is by far one of the best flying warbirds I've had. Take off and especially landing are as simple as it gets. Tracks straight as an arrow down the runway on take off and is airborne in no time. Approach with 1/2 flaps was rock solid with a nice smooth wheel landing. .
Great !!!

I covered the parts under the wing, where the monokote was ripped off, with "Proskin" / "Fliteskin" / "G10" ;

Used a spray-glue ala what 3M sells, but at 1/4 the price. In scandinavia you get the spray-glue at "Biltema".

I think this type of glue is called "contact cement" in english?

I sprayed both the balsa, and the new skin , then put the skin on after the two parts had dried for 5 minutes;



Oh yes, and a picture of the Focke Wulf in the air.
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Old 05-27-2014, 05:02 PM
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I like flight skin my self. I used it to cover my Byron F16 I used regular Foam safe CA.

Are you planning to cover the whole wing?
Old 05-27-2014, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mikes68charger
Are you planning to cover the whole wing?
I think it will end up with that.... I dislike monokote so much...don't want the stuff on a plane in my hangar.
Old 05-28-2014, 04:05 AM
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I have a Top Flight Gaint P51 with Kelo muffler that has around 10years on her

I think this winter I will strip and fiberglass her. I do think that the flightskin is stronger than the light fiberglass
Old 05-28-2014, 05:25 AM
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Got a maiden done on the Second 190 that I built over the Winter. It flies great and everything went well. As Chris mentioned in an earlier post, it seems that a bit of toe out will help to prevent the tuck under condition that leads to the ground loop. Mine had a bit of a ground loop that damaged the mounts a bit and caused a slight bending of the gear (seems the pin bent inside causing it to adjust the angle slightly). I got it back together though, and hope to get both well sorted before the Warbird event season.
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Old 05-28-2014, 07:06 AM
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Here's a couple shots of both at the field
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Old 05-28-2014, 12:58 PM
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Here's the video of the Maiden. Keep in mind I had already flown mine, and made any adjustments. It's like doing a maiden with a trial run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IInysxcBsjk
Old 05-28-2014, 01:27 PM
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Nice job Todd,
Just a suggestion on touchdown, keep up a little bit of power so the plane settles but is being pulled by the prop. Reason is the momentum of the plane will want to overcome the drag of the mains and induce that little bobble you experienced on that landing. If you keep a little power on the tail will have more authority and you maintain more control as the plane transitions to taxi. This draws out the whole landing a bit farther but you will stay on the center of the runway. I noticed the engine sounded like it was idling.

My Corsair will step out on me if I have the flaps down full but most of the time I keep it in check right down the center. This technique is more important on the Corsair I find because the tailwheel is not as far back and I have springs for strain relief on the cables.

Anyways, looks good, nice flight!
Old 05-28-2014, 01:32 PM
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yes toe out otherwise bent retract pins and ground loops!
Old 05-28-2014, 01:46 PM
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Do you have any rpm figures for the 22x12?
Old 05-30-2014, 10:55 AM
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That was a typo, it's a 22x10 and it turns about 6500 on the ground with only a couple tanks ran through it so far.

I agree about using a bit of throttle to keep the tail straight, but on a smooth surface runway that is not too long you run out of space real quick. If you get a nice slow landing though it sure can help to feed in a bit of throttle after you touch down. Also, I am convinced that some toe-in will help to prevent ground loops and if they do occur, help to prevent the outside gear digging in and bending the pin on the retracts.
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Toe in, Toe out. Wonder who is right?

I did some more on gluing fiberglass on the wing.

Very soon now, I can do the leading edge. Then I will get rid of all those monocote air bobbles there;

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Old 05-30-2014, 11:25 AM
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I had folding gear with toe in. only when I toe'd slightly out did my landings roll out perfectly. just my experience


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