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Old 10-25-2006, 07:49 AM
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Default Fliton Rogue undercart problem.

Hi all,
I have been building a Rogue Bipe and it has been going well until I mounted the undercart legs.
The mounting face of the legs and the face that you attach the axles to are not 90 degrees to each other.
This means when you look at the wheels from the front they are at a rediculous angle(bottom of the wheel angled inwards).
It also means that the spats are unusable.
Has anyone else experienced this problem.
Thanks for looking.
Old 10-25-2006, 05:48 PM
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Default RE: Fliton Rogue undercart problem.

Hi DV1,

It is unclear what the problem is based on your description. Could you provide some photos perhaps? There is a good review thread on the Rogue, which can be found here: http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=772
Old 10-26-2006, 03:54 PM
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Default RE: Fliton Rogue undercart problem.

Hi Flitonusa, thanks for the reply.
Here is a photo of the problem.
It actually looks like the angle of the mounting part of the legs is at the
incorrect angle as I had to remove material from the fuselage sides
in order for them to screw to the plate correctly.
As you can clearly see this fault has made the undercart completly useless.
Best regards.
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Old 10-31-2006, 04:10 PM
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Looks like no further reply by Fliton.
They didnt reply to my email either.
Not going to buy anymore of their models me thinks!!!!
Old 10-31-2006, 05:18 PM
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Default RE: Fliton Rogue undercart problem.

Hi there,

Sorry about the delayed response, we were at the Tucson Shootout all last week. I do see the camber in the landing gears from the front view, but it is hard to tell what the problem is without a side or 3/4 view. Your gears should sweep back when attached, which I cannot make out in this picture. To attach the gears, there is small opening beneath the covering on both sides of the airplane. Did you drill on the correct spots on the gears so they will line up with the holes in the gear plate?

I am not quite sure what you mean by undercart. There is no undercart near the gears, they simply slide into the allocated slots along the side of the fuselage.

Looking forward to hearing from you some more to get this resolved....
Old 11-01-2006, 06:52 AM
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Default RE: Fliton Rogue undercart problem.

Hi again,
I have attached a couple of better photos for you.
When I say undercart, this is short for undercarraige and I am refering
to the undercarraige legs.
Yes I drilled on the correct marked points to line up with the existing holes
in the ply plate.
When I mounted the legs through the openings, I had to remove material from the bottom of the existing holes to allow the legs to fit correctly.
In fact you can see the extra removed area in the photos, as the legs are touching the lower fuselage sheeting.
This led me to believe that the legs had been moulded incorrectly.
I know you have to ask many questions, but to give you some backround, I have been
building for nearly 30 years which includes giant gas planes to turbine scale helis so
a small electric plane shouldn't be any trouble for me.
Look forward to your reply. Thanks again.
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Old 11-03-2006, 02:01 AM
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Default RE: Fliton Rogue undercart problem.

I give up.
A week on and still no resolve.
Im going to spend more money on a decent undercarraige
after already buying quite an expensive kit.
First and last Fliton model.[>:]
I'll stick with CHP and World Models in future.
Old 11-03-2006, 01:56 PM
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Default RE: Fliton Rogue undercart problem.

Hello again,

Thank you for the pictures. On our first batch of Rogues, the drill holes did not line up exactly, which is causing your camber and the need to remove parts of the fuselage. The holes on the gear plate are about 3mm too far inward.

A simple solution would have been to drill new holes on the gear plate using a small 1mm drill bit and the holes on the landing gears as guides. It is not too late to do this but because part of the fuselage that supports the landing gears was removed (per your pictures), it may be a little harder to line-up correctly. You can also opt to leave the gears as is, which will not negatively effect the airplanes performance in any way.

Hopefully this answers your question. If you have any other question or need immediate assistance, please just email us: [email protected]

Thank you.
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Default RE: Fliton Rogue undercart problem.

I appreciate your comments on the holes in the mounting plate being drilled in the
wrong place, however this doesn't affect the camber on the wheels as the legs are screwed properly to the plate.
I have studied photos of other Rogues including the RCUniverse review and your own website and I
can see the problem.
If you look at the photos of mine from the front, you can see there is an inward curve on the legs(not the sweepback),
whereas the other Rogues have straight legs.
I have got round this by heating up the legs and gently straightening them which has put the wheels at the correct angle,
while still retaining the sweep back.
This isn't a perfect fix as I don't know if the legs will be weakend.
A better resolve would be a pair of correctly moulded legs!![>:]
I will be test flying it this weekend and I'm hoping the flight performance will make up for this niggly problem.
Old 11-09-2006, 09:12 PM
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Default RE: Fliton Rogue undercart problem.

Yes, I think you should have tryed bending the gear right away. I hope it'll fly
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Default RE: Fliton Rogue undercart problem.

Maybe in the US your happy to mess about with poor quality kits,
but in the UK we prefer quality from the start.
Bending parts of what is an expensive electric toy isn't a particularly
satisfactory solution in my book.
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Default RE: Fliton Rogue undercart problem.

this is the first time ive heard of flitons gears being shaped wrong and ive personally owned 3 of their planes. they are all pressed the same, so how can this one be any different? the pictures definately show the neg. camber being from your assembly technique and angle of insertion. i would email edson directly and he will take care of it for you. hes been real helpful for me. edson[at]fliton.com

goodluck anyways, hope it works out.
Old 11-25-2006, 11:50 PM
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Default RE: Fliton Rogue undercart problem.

I just put on a set of new landing gear on my Rogue Bipe because i broke one on the old set. I installed both new gears and they looked just like yours angled inboard, the set of gear that came with the rogue had a 90 degree angle .I got the new set from horizon hobby.

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