hey guys
have you had any experience with these models and if you have could you please recomend one. I am talking about the 40% planes.

I own both. What are you expecting of the model? Your experience with Giant Scale stuff?

well this would be my first time with with scale planes. maybe i should go for 35% instead of the big stuff. I am looking to get into IMAC flying.

35% IS the big stuff. The difference in the flying characteristics between a 35% and a 40% is small compared to the difference between 25% and 30% or 30% and 35%.....The main difference between 35% and 40% is the plane just seems to fly SLOWER or BIGGER on a 40%er. Both sizes are very stable....You start getting down below 33% and they lose the stability and they have to fly faster. The smaller you go, the worse these characteristics become




So does this mean you have only been flying 40 and 60 size funflies? Have you ever flown any IMAC?

I ask these 2 questions because a 35% or 40% airplane is going to set you back a MINIMUM of $3500 for 35% and $4500 for 40% unless you buy used. These really aren't the "LEARN HOW TO DO IT" type of planes unless you have an unlimited budget. If you have your heart set on one of these giants, then yes they are the ULTIMATE for learning, but expense wise it is not a good idea.

Now back to your actual question.....
I think you will find that it is more of a personal preference issue, but for me I like the EDGE for 3D and the EXTRA for IMAC.....I am not an IMAC pilot, but the Extra just seems to me to be more PRECISION oriented. Other than this, both planes will do a good job at either 3D or IMAC.

actualy i fly F3A pattern. i realse how much these cost and i am only 12 so i'm pretty much looking for a plane for when i have enough money. and no i have never flown IMAC before.

Well, for what I've been told, the biggest difference between the extra and edge is certain little stablity issues. The extra is a more precise design then the edge. For example, the nose on an edge will slightly wander during rolls, whereas the extra will not. How big of a difference there is, I'm not sure. I've only flown cap's and edges, and nothing over 25%. This is just what I've read and been told by others. I guess the biggest thing is to get what you like.

the extra is for precision and edge is for 3-d but i would choose the edge it is a great versatile plane sure you would have to work a little harder getting rolls axial but the edge is unstallable and virtually doesnt snap in high alpha manuevers the extra will, im 14 i know how you feel about an budget, get a fun-fly first something with a fuesalage like a morris the knife that will help you alot with aerobatics that will teach you alot learn how to torque roll hoovering rolling harrier etc. by then you have enough mony to get a big plane. im getting a 35% giles 202 with a g-62 but thats becuase its affordable in like sportmans you dont have to have the most expensive stuff of like everyone elses try to get sponsored and then money is not an object. in unlimited class it does help to have the most expensive stuff.any edge that is light and built correctly will be good and competitive and it doesnt have to be a 40% it is mostly youre fingers not youre plane. one day ill see ya at imac good luck

I am currently Building the Carden 40% Extra. This is after flying an AeroWorks Edge for the past three years. Let me start by saying I think the Edge has gotten a bad Rap. It is better for persision than most people seem to think. Mine has won a few IMAC contests. A disadnantage of the Edge is that it will show your mistakes more than an Extra. A Edge has a straight leading edge, that Straight Edge shows to the judges the second you are off. With the Extra the double tapper is harder for the Judge to see your mistakes. (This is more or less a quote from Kirby) People say Edges are hard to Snap. Sorry. Don't agree. Edges snap just fine, just make sure your leading edge is sharp, and play with the throws until you find the setup the will make it snap. This will take LONGER than with an Extra.

Spins are easier with an Extra. Hands down.

Harriers and high alpha flight goes to the Edge. Hands down.

In the End you pay your money and take your chances. At an IMAC contest 90% of the points are in the pilot and practice only 10% are plane.

That all said, if you are 12, and into F3A why not build a Giles in the size range that you can use as a cross over plane. It will Be good for F3A and IMAC. I think Gator RC makes a giles that will be IMAC and F3A ready. Just a thought if money is tight.

Rob

hey guys thanks for the advice! I have already learnt all the hovering and harrier mounouvres on my seduction wildstyle. Robt i like your idea of a giles for F3A and imac.

I also like robt's suggestion. Now i have never flown either of these planes (only H9 sukhoi as far as giants) I do know that some people are partial to extras and edges (kinda like CHEVY vs. FORD). The only person who can help you is someone who has flown both of these. Every brand of plane flys different than the other. My thinking is that if you can do an extremely slow roll without changing heading or altitude, then you can do it with either plane. Sure one has its advantages over the other and vice versa, but if you pick one and dint fly the other you'll never know. A gu in our club has a Wild Hare 35% giles and a Lanier 31%Edge. Although one is slighty bigger than the other, when he is flying they look the same (except the giles looks like its wing is backwards). All of his maneuvers with both planes look very smooth and precise. His slow rolls are slightly better with the Giles, but everything else is about the same. I think no matter which 40% you pick, if it is set up right, is just as capable as anything else. Just my $.02.

All True OnEdge, but if he is primarally a F3A pilot who wants to play with IMAC he shouldn't build a 40%. That's why I recommend rhe Gator Giles for him. It is really a pattern plan in the shape of a giles. I don't know what Chip is offering, but any of his planes might be good crossover planes if the are small / light enough to be F3A legal.

Rob

I didn't think about that, but thats true for F3A. I have seen the advertisment for that Gator Giles. It looks like a nice plane, but a little overpriced. But hey, I'm not a pattern guy, and you get what you pay for, so I agree 100%.

thanks for the help! Could some one please give me the link to the gator webpage so that i can see the model?

http://www.gatorrc.com/

tahnks jemo!