Structural failure/ Extreme elevator flutter on Somenzini 72" Yak?
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You make a good point in that every RC pilot is not a homeowner, but you have to admit that my point is valid. What is the purpose of the insurance if I have to use my homeowners first? Yes the forum is evolving but I think it’s good information to know. I’m sure many pilots are asking the same question I’m asking on this subject.
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From: Noordbrug, SOUTH AFRICA
Hi Guys
We have in the old days been lucky regarding flutter with small aircraft and therefore relatife stiff control systems. As the aircraft got bigger flutter became a problem as the total stiffness of the structure goes down. To cure flutter you must mass balance and seal the control gap, and have a stiff servo-control surface link.
I think it is unfair to call an airframe defect when you are not willing to install the above. Flutter speed depends heavily on the stiffness of the structure. So a small change in the density of wood in the control surfaces can have a major impact on the flutter speed. Changes manufacturers cannot really predict.
So I say: Dont be lazy, seal airtight, mass balance and fly with confidence.
Airasj ( full scale flutter analyst)
We have in the old days been lucky regarding flutter with small aircraft and therefore relatife stiff control systems. As the aircraft got bigger flutter became a problem as the total stiffness of the structure goes down. To cure flutter you must mass balance and seal the control gap, and have a stiff servo-control surface link.
I think it is unfair to call an airframe defect when you are not willing to install the above. Flutter speed depends heavily on the stiffness of the structure. So a small change in the density of wood in the control surfaces can have a major impact on the flutter speed. Changes manufacturers cannot really predict.
So I say: Dont be lazy, seal airtight, mass balance and fly with confidence.
Airasj ( full scale flutter analyst)
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From: somerville,
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Hey Guys, I told ya it was the sox in 7!!! Yee Haw!!!!!!
FYI, I did send my Yak back.... I Just don't trust the airframe, and I don't care to do surgery on the elevators to balance them, or add more weight to beef up the landing gear and to compensate for the weight added if I were to balance the elevators.
I got my Dave patrick Edge today, and all I can say Is WOW!!!!
Chuck
FYI, I did send my Yak back.... I Just don't trust the airframe, and I don't care to do surgery on the elevators to balance them, or add more weight to beef up the landing gear and to compensate for the weight added if I were to balance the elevators.
I got my Dave patrick Edge today, and all I can say Is WOW!!!!
Chuck
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Hi Quique, I read all about you Yak 54. For me is the best plane I ever had. I am from Paraguay and the person who told me to buy this plane, was Marcelo Zini. I said to Marcelo. Thank You for the good recomendation. I Am happy with this plane. I am using the Saito 180 with 18x6w Propeller. Digital servos 811S and for the rudder I am Using 8611. The radio is the PCM JR 9303. Landing this plane is like you put and automatic landing. Quieque your plane is exelent.
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From: Greenwood,
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I have had my 72" Yak for sometime now and just opened it yesterday to start putting it together. Let me say that this is the first ARF I have ever gotten that I did not have to spend time removing wrinkles from the covering. Not one wrinkle! The quality of this kit is better than any ARF I have seen. I can see that a lot of thought went into this plane and I'm very happy with it. I can't wait to get it in the air. I have put together ARF's from Hanger 9, Aeroworks, and Great Planes. All of them have had a problem of some sort. Things such as something as simple as an error in the instruction manual to a wing tube being too large to insert into the wing. Will my Yak be any differant? Only time will tell but I must say I have a good feeling about this plane.
The only other comment I have is to the guy doing a blender at show center. I can sum that up in one word "STUPID". After almost being hit last year by a plane by someone who's ego was larger than thier flying ablility or good judgement I have no time for unsafe pilots. I hope this guy has learned something from this but my guess is it was all the plane's fault.
The only other comment I have is to the guy doing a blender at show center. I can sum that up in one word "STUPID". After almost being hit last year by a plane by someone who's ego was larger than thier flying ablility or good judgement I have no time for unsafe pilots. I hope this guy has learned something from this but my guess is it was all the plane's fault.



