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Old 05-02-2007 | 03:02 PM
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I maidened the Twist 150 yesterday with an OS 1.60FX turning an APC 18x6W prop, what a blast, this thing will do just about anything. It hovers at 1/2 throttle, I am not big into 3D but this plane makes things easy. I love the way the ARF is completed, the tail section goes together in seconds, start to finish in less than 6 hours.This plane would be fine on an OS 1.20AW good power with 12oz less weight.
Old 05-03-2007 | 05:04 PM
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I guess no one flys the Hanger 9 twist 150.
Old 05-03-2007 | 10:14 PM
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I just bought one recently, but have not finished it yet (about a week left). I just wondered how easy it is to fly. I have no 3D experience and I am somewhere between a beginner to intermediate pilot. Is it very forgiving for a newcomer?
Old 05-04-2007 | 06:17 AM
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The 150 twist flys well, for that first flight keep the rates down and use lots of expo so will not over control the aircraft, I use 50% or less with 30 % on the elevator and at least -40% on my Futaba 9c. Make sure that you are at the Cof G, not behind it, I would balance ahead of the Cof G and then move it back as you get used to it, you will be adding to the rates as you progress as well. What motor are you using?
Old 05-04-2007 | 08:40 PM
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Thanks for the advise. I set my low rates at the amount lower amount recommended in the book and the my hi rates at the higher amount in the book. Do you think this is too much to start with?
I am using a Zenoah G26 with the stock magneto. I know its not the recomended engine, but I already had it sitting on my bench not in being used on anything. I checked out the weight of the G26 compared to the recommended evolution gas engine and the RTF wieght is almost the same and I don't have to bother with the extra battery for the ignition. Of course it is heavier than your OS engine.
I'm almost finished with it.....expect to maiden it next week. If you have any other advise, it would be greatly appreciated.
Old 05-05-2007 | 12:13 AM
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SHERMAN..I am the happy owner of the Twist .40 and .60 size, and incidentally "tripped" over your message that you own/fly the 150. If you have time for it, would you mind posting a lil' more info??Do you own any other Twists??Any comparison??How was the ARF??I am curious how it compares with the other Twists...Any pictures of your baby??
Old 05-05-2007 | 12:17 AM
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CRASH...would you mind posting a review of your maiden please?? I am dying to hear more about the Twist 150 size..how it flies..anything!!....I am a DIE HARD Twist .40-size flyer..and currently building a .60-size...who knows I can add the 150-size in the time to come....
Old 05-05-2007 | 08:14 AM
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iliveonlytocrash

Could you post some pictures of your G26 installation, I've been thinking about putting my G26 with EI in this Twist. Please do give us a review after flying it with the G26.

Chuck
Old 05-05-2007 | 08:26 AM
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dutchalltheway

I expect to get this plane in the air sometime in the next 4 or 5 days. I'll let you know how it turns out.



Chuck

I'll try to take some pictures this weekend and get them posted.
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Hi guy's I have owned the 40 the 60 and now the 150,I have flown mine a couple of times and the 150 just like the 40 and 60 versions take some dialing in to get them to fly decent. I have a GT 26 gasser with a tuned pipe, I have Hitec digital's HS 5625's all around except the throttle (HS81 MG) I have an APC 17X4 prop and running it on 45:1 gas oil mix at the moment, I have a 2700 Mah Nihm 6.0 volt for the radio and a 4.8 volt 1700 nihm for the ignition, I have the rates set as per the manual for low and high and the third rate (Futaba 9 C) for full mechanical throws I have a PCM receiver also. I flew the plane the first time and the plug came loose so the flight ended with a dead stick landing...every first flight on all my twist's have ended with a maiden dead stick landings...good job they float in well...so second flight flew a complete tank through it fly's ok'is I am thinking the ailerons need more servo.. Landing this time with power......it lands a bit funny right now. I have the C.G set to the most forward as all my twists have been it does not balloon but it comes in hot and needs to be flown in, not as easy to land as my twist 60 (read the twist 60 forum for the set up I had on it) so third flight made a couple of changes balanced the plane laterally and tried again, the motor is starting to break in well now lots of power taxied out took of vertical cool!!!! flew it around. the wind was not nice last night blustery and a bit shearery..not good but Defiantly need more servo on the wings, landed and retired it to the workshop where I have some hinge tape to seal the control surfaces and a pair of Hitec HS 5645's which I will put in place of the 5625’s in the wing I am not too impressed with the 150 yet but it took maybe 8/10 flights on my 60 before I got it to fly good and it really did fly good…..if the 150 does not fly nice I will sell it and buy another 60 size….but the 150 has a couple of more flight to redeem itself yet, I’ll keep you all posted and hopefully get it set up right and tell you all how it went….Colin.
Old 05-05-2007 | 08:41 AM
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Ilivetocrash, going with the recommended rates will work fine, just make sure you have at least 30% expo on the elevator, when balancing the aircraft, since you will be plenty nose heavy, you have to rerig the electronics to the rear of the center section, if you can balance the a/c up side down and move things around to get the CofG where you want. My twist came out slightly nose heavy with the OS 1.60, it does fall to the canopy on the 45* inverted up line. I have not moved any thing to the rear yet, still getting used to a/c. The gasser should work out well, slightly heavy compared to the OS 1.60, the ideal motor for the 150 will be the OS 1.20 or its eguivalent. Once you get used to the A/C turn up the rates, it hovers quite easily, just make sure you have lots of elevator and rudder, also add the expo at 40% or more. I do not know the names for the 3-d manuvers but it sure likes doing a slow approach to land,then, slowly pull up while slowly adding power into the hover. The KE will need coupling but until I get to a rearward CofG I am not sure how much, this A/C makes me look like much better pilot than I really am, 0 to hero in about 3 days. Enjoy.
Old 05-05-2007 | 09:00 AM
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Dutchalltheway, that is a mouthfull, this is my first Twist, I usually stick to IMAAC type a/c, this is my first 3d machine and am having a blast with it. If I had to it over, with what I know, I would have gone with the OS1.20, but the 1.60 was in hand. The motor install with the 1.20 is very simple, with the OS 1.60 the mounts had to be modified, very little room with the 1.60, where as the 1.20 will just drop in. I do not do 4-strokes so I can't help you there, hanger 9 recommends there line of Saitos. The wing is very thick so it flys nice and slow, harrier landings are easy. I do not fly 3d ,but this A/C makes me look like a champ, with your twist 40 time you should be able to put on a show.
Old 05-05-2007 | 02:19 PM
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Colyn, with the gasser in the front of the 150 you may have too much weight in the front, which would make it hard to land, more speed is required to keep the elevator effective. My 150 is nose heavy with an OS 1.60, your's would be even more nose heavy, I am not a 3d flyer and the harrier landing is easy with the 1.60 in the nose. Check your CofG again.
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I have pictures of the Zenoah G26 to post here. Can anyone tell me how to get them loaded into this forum?
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Old 05-05-2007 | 04:46 PM
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Thanks for the pictures, it certainly is a shoe horn fit. Have you weighed the plane yet? Could the engine be mounted inverted? I'm glad to see you put the hose on the metering side of the carb going into the fuselage. My G26 will not fly without it. Darn deadsticks.
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I mounted the engine upright because it only required a little bit of grinding on the top of the fuselage for the muffler and the carb. I mounted the engine so the centerline of the crankshaft would be in the same place as it would be if the recommend 26cc evolution were used. If you mount it inverted I think you would have to cut off the fuselage sides from the firewall forward, or mount the engine very low. I don't like the idea of mounting the engine low because I don't know what effect it may have by moving the thrust line from the original plans and I don't like the engine and muffler hanging down where it would suffer more damage from a nose low landing. I don't like the idea of cutting off the fuselage sides because I think it looks better with the fuselange intact. I have not weighed the plane yet, but I will when it is finished. I did check the RTF weight of the Zenoah G26 and the RTF weight of the recommend evolution and they were within a few ounces.
Old 05-14-2007 | 03:39 PM
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I was out flying today in 20mph winds having fun. I will be switch the OS 1.60 out for an OS 1.20 later this week, I have an AW Yak coming that will use the 1.60, besides, the 1.20 will be plenty for the Twist, I think the 1.60 is overkill, it's fun hovering at 1/4 throttle.
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Chuck,

Finished the Twist 150 this weekend and put it on the scale. It weighed in at 10.0 lbs. This is ready to fly with the G26 engine (stock magneto), no fuel in the tank and a 6.0 volt, 2700mah, NiMH battery pack. I didn't add any weight to get the CG, just moved the battery pack as necessary. Added 1/4 ounce to wingtip for lateral balance. The scale used was digital that weighs in 1/2 lbs increments. Its always been fairly accurate (+- 1/4 lb).


Sherman89,

I will fly it as soon as the weather permits, but I know for sure I will not attempt it in 20MPH winds. Sherman89, don't know how you handle it in those winds. My budget (and my plane) go all to pieces when I fly in high winds!!!



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