yes guys, don,t waiste your dollars on smaller 60 and 70 sized 4 strokes for these 3D type planes, i have both a Funtana and Katana 40 freestyle and the recommended largest size engine is a 70 / 4 stroke which is just not good enough if you want to hover like the heli,s do. go for a good 82 O.S.

I think the Saito .72 would haul this plane around rather nicely. I mean Im hovering below half with the .82 as it is .

Yep... a 72 would be fine.... this thing cruises at 1/8 throttle with the 82

I tested today and got 30 minutes on my 12oz tank.... so.... a 6oz should provide 15 minutes

Also my 82 is new.. I am on my 4th gallon of fuel so fuel consumption will get a little better

I guess I will try the 6oz I have in house next and see how that feels before buying an 8oz

Check me on my thinking here... I am about half crazy (retired pro drummer)

LOVE the plane!!!! Tumbles nice... flat spins both ways quite well.... great high alpha knife edge

SDS

Sounds about right to me. Thats all the flight time I need for one flight anyway.

So being a drummer you should be pretty good on the sticks? I always seem to have the
both hands want to do the same thing delima. Its getting much better though .

Ok........ the 6 ounce is all mounted and plumbed.... hope to get out tomorrow and test.... shooting for 15 minute flights.... sure looks tiny in there!! Was able to get the tank all the way up to the firewall so that will help the fuel draw considerably. Might not have to have a pump now.

On the coordination issue..... I do have complete 4 way independence (feet and hands) and am very close to being ambidextrious... from years of training on the drum set... and it does help flying. It is more the instant flow from eye to hand or with music sound to hand with no second thought that makes a good musician or pilot. Train yourself not to think about it... it takes time to think about control inputs before executued. You need to learn to execute the command the instant you think it... you know.... become one with the instrument or machine. Trust the Force Luke!!

Hope that all makes some kind of sense.

This is crazy too..... the 2 things that has helped me the most in flying RC planes is....
Flying helicopters and the flight simulator. I got a copy of G2 for 50 bucks and fly it daily.
Get on the sim and teach yourself to hover a heli.... tail in... nose in... each side too. You will be surprised what it will do for your fixed wing flying skills. It sharpens the hand to eye flow sugnificantly(sp?)

Ok... off my soap box.... hope this helps... I will report the results on the fuel tank change asap.

later,
SDS

I shall try that, I do have a sim I work with all the time then fall off with other projects.

I can get a tourqe roll but thats about it, the thing that gets me with them is the part I thought is hard is the rudder Im having the trouble with the elevator. DOH! I can make corrections belly in no problem like waterfalls etc.

Im decent with most everything else just need to spend more time inverted which I have neglected over the years.

Man I hope my new engine mount getts here this week! I wanna go fly this one again.

Have fun !

Mike

Make yourself practice what you DON"T do ...... especially on the sim where it doesn't kill a plane when you crash

Did your motor mount break???!! How??

SDS

Sorry I missed this thread, there wasn't much activity here during my build...

I've been flying mine with the YS .63 and love it! I'm using a 13x6 prop with 30% nitro - yields about 11k RPM. It's a great setup and offers plenty of power while keeping it light for 3D. I'm running a 12 oz tank which gives me about a 15 minute flight time. I could have gotten away with a 10oz tank but I didn't want to empty the tank during a low hover or somthing like that. With the battery pack located behind the rudder servo everything balanced perfectly (using a single elevator servo). A friend at the field was flying his electric version and thought my glow setup had more power; his trottle response time is quicker though. The electric to glow conversion required some work to get things totally fuel proof, but it ended up working out fine. I'm using the Hyde soft mount to keep vibrations down since it is such a light and rigid airframe. The only mods I made were replacing the tailwheel assy, using an Al spinner, painting the cockpit floor black, and using vinyl graphics to jazz it up a bit. I was able to route the muffler inside the cowl by using a stock OS header pipe made for a 70 surpass.

Here's a quick flight report: flat spins and tumbles are great; I get a little wing rock during elevators and harriers so I'm going to try a spoileron mix; stall turns are easy and tight; it weathervanes more than expected but this may be because it is a 3D setup (not very nose heavy); it knife edges without any roll or pitch coupling; the ailerons are so sensitive that I keep turning the rates down; slow flight is excellent and it does not want to snap out; it flies pattern type maneuvers well but the huge control surfaces make it a bit touchy. Overall - it flies great, is tons of fun to fly, and is beautiful.

Here are some pictures of my setup.

Steve

Nice Steve!!

Thanks for sharing

SDS

Welcome Insalacom! Good to see you over here. This is flyinghigh off RCG .

SDS
Yeah when I had the dead stick the landing gear folded back and the engine mount broke. Id rather the mount break then the box or the firewall though.
I can get another in the glow conversion kit . Wish they sold it seperate . All that should be here this week maybe. Landing gear is halfway repaired ,I just have to
dremel out one of the ends of the rod from the firewall and reaplace with new. They cam out pretty easy so Im sure they are not glued in too good.

I had the engine too lean and just should have stayed on the ground my fault and lesson learned!

Thanks for all the advice also !

Mike

Sorry bout your deadstick mishap.... don't fret... she will be better then new when your done with the repair... and she will fly better too!! Watch and see

Your welcome for the advice.... no prob... I am all about helping my fellow pilots.. a lot of people were kind enough to help me along the way.

I was going to go test today but I am not feeling up to it.... maybe in the next couple days between rain showers

SDS

Forgot to mention...

This thing does GREAT snaps!!! On low rates!!!

SDS.... back to Realflight

Hey Mike!

I hear the kits are now coming with one piece CF gear, whereas each leg is separate in mine. I imagine this may prevent some of the LG plate tear outs since the forces will be better distributed across the LG plate. It is disappointing though that the plywood used for the original LG plate is not very solid and delaminates so easily. My rebuilt LG area is holding up well and it helps that I'm running some larger wheels and no wheel pants.

Steve

Thats good to hear, I was sorta diapointed to see the grain of the wood at the back (the rear former/bulkhead on the LG mount) going in the weakest direction. I dont know mybe if it didnt break something else would have? Well its well suported now, Im glad to hear yours is still going strong.

Mike

i just recevied one of these planes today orderd thru my local hobby store. broken rear former, no pilot, no dash board, no dash, dents in rear former i picked it up right after it was delivered by freight truck. decale sheet was opened. of corse i did not notice until i get home. also no motor box for electric motor to mount to like the instructions show.

Take it back to the LHS where you bought it ASAP

Somebody dropped the ball on that one...

Above all else do not worry.... if no one else will help you Chris at Extreme Flight will make it right.

These planes are the highest quality plane in their size available to man at the present time

Sorry you had trouble but you will get it sorted out and you will have a remarkable airplane when your done.


Michaelh..............

I put an 8 ounce tank in today.... I will let you know what the results are if the weather will quit doing nasty things

later...SDS

i do have the pilot

Thanks SDS,

I have yet another 13 ounce tank with the glow conversion kit. What to do with all these tanks now! [X(]

Save the tanks..... you will use them on something.... soon as you get rid of them you will need them for sure!!!

So for sure youll get yours out this weekend? I have everything including velocity stack for the .82 now. Just need to get in gear and finish it.

Been having fun with the Little Yak though.

I am sure gonna try to go fly Michaelh..... it has been the windiest spring I can remember. I can fly in the wind just fine but enjoy smooth air much better.

so did you guys get control horn mounting bases and threaded rods and control horns in your kits. this is the most expensive 50 size kit i have bought and the worst quality. hope someone does something about this on monday. the instruction manual on line shows all of this stuff. i got none.

Yes... composite horns and threaded rods are included. The plane is worth every penny of what it costs. As I told you before.... take it back where you bought it ASAP and get a refund or another kit.... if they won't fix it.... call Extreme Flight. Your going to be very pleased with this plane and it will be worth every penny you paid as well as the added steps you are having to take. Don't screw around.... get the kit back where you bought it as soon as you possibly can.

SDS

Give Chris a call. Your kit must have been rumaged through or something. The only sloppy parts people have been replacing are the ball links. Which the stock ones will work fine.

The qaulity is superb! Every other company is following Extreme Flight and 3DHS's lead in ARF production on any size model .

Thought Id post a couple pics when she was truly perfect




Rebuilt the Carb on the 180 this evening so Ill take the biggin out tomorrow. Extra will be back next weekend