Yeah I can see it....very Capiche looking...? Cowling looks identical. :boxing:

ah haa!

Sarnie, thats a fine point, and we all know how you feel about the Capiche. So they both have cheeks on the cowl--- how unusual.

Just been looking at the RCW site.. That baby is a 3D Fun Fly.. Not a 3D aerobatic in the sense of Artisitc Aero / TOC style flying.

Rudder is a bit of a funny shape... hadnt really noticed before.

Weight looks good though....

I will not be having one though, I think my 3D Fun fly days are coming to an end... gone off em a bit.

Good luck for your show.

PS Nathan, does your mother know you were up that late last night. School must have been hellishly tiring today !

Come on Arch show us that sense of humour we all know and love - or is that backache affecting your funny bone?

Must be carrying all those sacks of cheques to the bank!

.....just aving a laugh - 3Styla looks nothing like a Capiche. :thumbdown

Come to think of it, ive just looked at some other 3 styla pictures and i know think that it doesnt look anything like the capiche funnily enough!
Luke

back is causing a sense of humour failure sometimes, and I wish it was the resultof a bag of cash but sadly no.

i got the joke...dont worry....

my leccy capiche beckons the final finishing touches so must go.

ciao fnow

Luke, your Funtana might need weight depending on how it was built. Mine has a rudder servo in the back and is balancing beautifully....
Cut Nathan som eslack, course he is gonna be optimistic about the Styla......
IMKHO (k=kinda)

Flip......3D machine.
Capiche.....Freestlye Machine.
Limbo Dancer.....Crap, or a funfly rock.
Styla......3D machine.

3Styla is a 3D machine but also flys very smooth in capable hands...

Aint realy seen the Capiche fly but i would say it looks rather nice i think paul skinner flys one...I could ask him whats the differant between capiche and 3styla but i know what he would say...
Capiche looks a nice model for both pattern and 3D flying....

If your going to wings & wheels this weekend you will see me and nathan paul skinner and martin henderson flying them but we only have 1 10 minute slot a day which aint very good....

Anyway ive seen nathans Funtana go and i thought it went quite well hes a well good 3D pilot...
if you go to www.rcworld.co.uk you can see some 3styla pics....

Dean

Good luck guys, hope your flying slots go well over the weekend.

3styla looks a good fun fly....but I'd rather have a Hype.

But, there again like a lot of people on this thread I'm biased!!

Bad luck dean,
Ive got two slots both days for Wings and Wheels!
Will be flying something similar to yours- an Innovation pro.
For the funtana, I expect what we will do is do a mock up of it when its uncovered with the servos and engine on, so that we can juggle the position of the servos, batteries e.t.c to get the perfect C of G without adding any weight.
I hope Stefan Wurm is going to fly his 500cc 4.56 metre wingspan Pitts Special! I wonder how big his car (oops i mean lorry!) is?
You can see pics at the bottom of the page on
http://www.rcflug.com/weiersh.htm#ultimate

Luke

Hi luke 3D hope to meet you me and nathan will be there...

Dean

Im not here to comment on the Capiche and have not done so so far.... just makin the point about the styla.

Posting leccy pic to Capiche thread now..

Archie your hilarious!

.....posting pic to Capiche site now!!! hold on to your hats everyone!!!


I DRINK BEER......THEREFORE I'M FAT

Christ guys when has a 3styla done funfly stuff? None of the team flying have done consecutive touch n gos, climb n glides etc, it IS NOT a funfly.

It's not as smooth as the hype, but its a 3d model, and it's smooth enough for freestyle. Take it from me, I'm as capable as any to know that it flies nothing like a funfly

And Archie... what about the 3styla's side profile makes it look one little bit like a funfly?

i Think we meant that the 3styla looks like it flies like a 3D funfly- a fun 3D plane( madness, hype e.t.c)- not like a limbo dancer or magic for example.
Its probably one of those confusions- if you look at the funfly forum theres countless 3Ding profiles that wouldn't be able to do touch and goes and so on.
Also, the funfly wing on the capiche 50 won't make it into a climb and glide plane.
Maybe we need to invent new names for these type of models!?
Sorry if 'funfly' made you upset. I think we used the name meaning a different flying style type thing.
Luke

Perhaps we need a few definitions here. Here is my attempt:

Funfly plane: Huge thick wing and tail, engine on front. Fus is only there to keep the bits together. (example limbo dancer/cougar)

Freestyle plane: Takes F3A pattern type plane, enlarges control serfaces for extream manuovers. (example Capiche, Majestic)

3D plane: Freestyle plane with Funfly wing. (example 3Styla, Flip 3D).

Now that the Cat is amongst the Pigeons, what do you think?

I think thats about right. I think that freestyle should apply to a plane that can do f3a to almost the same standard as it can 3D, or just a plane that can entertain with a selection of smooth gracefull aerobatics combined with some wild 3D stuff to get the crowd on their feet( IMAC planes, majestic, capiche, funtana and so on).
As for funfly= limbo dancer, cougar.
3D funfly= plane that has a fat wing that flies slowly and does slow 3d aerobatics, very manuverable, that is not a limbo dancer type plane.

Luke well put.

Nathan, dont get upset. I did make comparisons to Madness, Flip Hype etc. Never mentioned things like cougar and limbo.

I draw the distinction as follows, and the american use of these definitions is definately different to british.

Fun Fly..... high wing planes like cougar and limbo and magic, but a generic term that for me covers most of them in general, but traditionally your climb and glide/touch and go type..

3D Fun fly.. higher standard fun fly with more aerobatic lines.... but a fun fly wing section and huge control surfaces nonetheless. Things like 3styla, madness bla bla bla.

You could argue then that there is a Pro standard 3D Fun Fly... perhaps definable by the big player pilots that design or fly them.... matbe the flip falls into this category ... but its really a sub cat of 3D Fun Fly.

The there is Aerobatic. Derived from F3A anything that does aerobatic manouvres and flies at reasonable speed.

3D Aerobatic, for my money, is a derivative of a aerobatic or f3a type plane (not necessarily 2m) which has undergone subtle wing section alteration, reduced weight, and big surfaces, so it flies like a pattern plane and also does 3D type stuff. Perfect example is the 2M majestic. Not the Maj 1400. This I see purely as a aerobatic model. In the US they call this Artistic Aero I believe.

I see the 3Styla fitting into the 3D Fun Fly camp, laong with Madness etc.

I see Capiche fitting into the 3D Aero camp, like the Freestyle model (which Paul also flies), Synergy 903D and some others that dnt immediately come to mind.

I guess in my mind, a model called a 3D Aerobatic model must be capable of effective and comaprable F3A performance, at f3a speed. These planes traditionally do not prop hang as well as fun flys or 3D fun flys.




Hey Sarnie, dont know what I said that was funny.

But I like your tag line. Maybe I should change mine to the same, but add wine into the line too ! LOL. Very funny, made me laugh!

ah sprink and Luke, you got in before I finished ! lol.

dont know if I would use freestyle as a definition. That is more a type of flying programme - i.e. a free programme of your own style, regardless what you fly.

Sorry Nathan, your thread is getting hi jacked a bit.

Still it keeps it near the top of the pile eh !

Boom!! i thought i was the SH1T stirrer around here. i turn away for 5 mins and the stuffs every ware

I though a 3D plane was a profile plane that drank beer ..... therefore became fat!!





I fly toy airplanes .... therefore i crash

ha dave!
You make me laugh so much!
Luke

Im with Luke and Sprink and Archie on this one....


Welshy, you need to follow your own advice... Chill Out. :rainfro:

Just been looking at the thread I started on Capiche Opinion and we were happy debating and you pop in and say chill out.

Then on this thread you throw all your toys out the pram... woh dude.! :drowning:

You are never gonna convince me that the 3styla is anything but another version of the low wing fun fly type plane. Good for flying indoors (big space!), slow, throttle managed, high throw flying. oh and hovvering.

for what its worth, I aint keen on the appearance in photos of the 3styla... the back end is particularly nasty ! :bananahea

good luck with the model though..... is it actually available yet ? Im confused between the website and what is said here and there. :spinnyeye

Give you one thing Welshy, you are loyal !
:sunsmiley

I'm juyst on building a 3styla kit now and yeh i agree the back end is nasty, while the elavtors are fantastic, the rudder looks awful...... i'm gonna try addign colour to it firs,t i think that's the main problem, but on my kit one i may change it to a more hypey shape fin.

Well done on your defiantions.
Did anyone note the term that I used ?

F3A / 3D hybrid ???? goes for all the flip, hype, 3styla, capiche.. everything, whether it have a funfly or standard type wing.

F3A by definition seems to be power aerobatics.... jsut seems that F3A competitions are pattern aeros and that makes people think that any f3a capable plane has to be extremely smooth. No, really it should just be able to do fairly quick snaps (OK, funfly wings aren't ideal, but most will just about snap.. apart from the hype!) it should be able to fly inverted with ease, knife edge pretty straight, hold whatever pitch is inputted etc..... they all do it, it's a sacrifice though... 3d movements and surface sizes / shapes tent to reduce any possibilty of smooth f3a stuff.

that clear enough??

Forgot to mention, on my 3styla im using a hype cowl (cuz the original extreme lite cowl is too big by far) and I may even use the hype canopy.
Also gonna put stripes on the u/s if i get chance.

Gonna use spats too to make it look a tad sweeter, and i might move the u/c forward. Purely for looks..... still looks better than the avg funfly anyway! and who cares what a plane looks like, it flies 3d like nothing else i've tried in that size!

i reckon looks are important and IM glad to see youve come off your soap box Welsh / Nathan.

So how many of this type have you flown? You sound quite the expert !?

Im also intrigued, for all the hype (excuse the punn) you give this plane, you are changing all sorts ! Is it no good in its standard version, and whats wrong with the cowl and canopy in the kit ?

Im getting even more confused now. (dont take much !) :spinnyeye

i think everybody should be a bit nicer as well, because we have given nathan a bit of stick that he didn't deserve IMHO. Arguments with the good old americans are funny, but not british ones.
The last thing we want is a fight to settle it at Wings and Wheels!lol
Luke