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brewski 09-14-2008 04:51 AM

RE: Showtime
 
I went ot my LHS to order a 90 and they no longer show it in the book. They said it was being discontinued. The 50 is still available. I hope that is not the case.

sevans16 09-14-2008 08:57 AM

RE: Showtime
 
t is odd they did not raise the price of the Showtime or Funtanna 100! I am also thinking they may be going away? HH often shows backorder for a few months on discontinued products! Ask how I learned that after waiting for 3 months.

Patto 09-14-2008 04:20 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Well, it was only a matter of time until this one went away. They made a good number of these and you can still find them out there for the time being. Too bad, it was a good 3D platform.

kochj 09-14-2008 05:27 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Horrizon did the same for ther Tana 100X....
They excepted back orders on a disct. product!....\\\

THey never updated the web page!!!

Nice![:-]

HoverLoW 09-14-2008 07:28 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Do you guys think Horizon is slowly getting out of glow planes business?

Some time ago they was releasing a bunch of new models, but they are no more doing this. No more news in months!!!

The last 3D plane they got out was the Frenzy, and it is an old design, like a U-Can-do copy.

Patto 09-14-2008 10:15 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Glow planes are still much more popular at the local flying field than electric aircraft. They're not going anywhere, but maybe Horizon was just riding out the momentum it's had going for awhile. Besides, Horizon is just the distributor, right?

brewski 09-15-2008 04:24 PM

RE: Showtime
 
I found one today but it was not easy. Most places were out. I got it for $213 shipped. I was planning to wait for this one but it is on my short list and it looks like it is now or never. I will put it one the shelf til cold weather.......................I think.

HoverLoW 09-15-2008 06:12 PM

RE: Showtime
 


ORIGINAL: P-Diddy
Besides, Horizon is just the distributor, right?
Yes, but they are linked like a holding system. I don't know if they can live without each other.

v8mini 09-15-2008 06:18 PM

RE: Showtime
 
well i'm just building my second one that i brought early last month, only just started it as the wife wasnt too please when i got it straight after crashing the first one.
should be far off finished tomorrow

OK2Fly 09-15-2008 06:40 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Yea, just imagine if Hangar-9 paired up with Tower Hobbies.[X(]

HoverLoW 09-15-2008 06:47 PM

RE: Showtime
 


ORIGINAL: OK2Fly

Yea, just imagine if Hangar-9 paired up with Tower Hobbies.[X(]
LOL!!!It would be a funny thing to see!!!!

brewski 09-23-2008 08:29 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Mine arrived yesterday. I don't think I will put it together til later this winter. Great looking plane though. It will be tough to wait.

I have read through some of this thread and see some are running a OS 120 AX. Is this enough? I would think it would be a really nice 3d performer with the OS but then I see that you have a 26cc gas on yours and that sparks my interest. I have a 120 AX on the shelf and a RCGF 26cc that should be here Friday. The RCGF is for another project but now this! This hobby always has me spinning.

HoverLoW 09-23-2008 09:04 PM

RE: Showtime
 
A bunch of guys are saying the 120 AX is enough. For me, the 120 AX can barely prop hang my Funtana x100, that's a more lighter plane...

v8mini 09-26-2008 12:00 PM

RE: Showtime
 
just totaled my second Showtime 90[:o], I'm thinking this model isn't for me so will probably look for something else to put the MVVS 26 into.

only got 6 flights on this one, same as the first. not totally sure what went wrong this time, but i did notice a couple of times when i banked to the left and pulled some up elevator the model seemed to decide to bank to the right. when it actually crashed it was going in a bit of a dive(not fast) and i couldn't level it out not just from elevator but also rocking from left to right on the ailerons. before i knew it it was in the ground.
initially i check the radio gear and all servos were working ok, and surface hinges and linkages in place and move freely, but looking at the bits when i got home one aileron servo seems to have limited movement on one direction and the rod is slightly bent, will have a proper look at it later.

not too sure where to go next, think i need more of a sports pattern plane instead of a 3D type model, one things for sure i don't get on with Showtime 90's



edit.... just stripped the servo down, a hitec HS-925MG. it works ok under power, but to move by hand it has a bind spot. on the final gear there was a slither of metal from one of the teeth and it now has a step in it and still binds in that spot so will need a new gear. this is a result of the crash rather that cause.

chuck993 09-26-2008 12:07 PM

RE: Showtime
 
looks like they discontinued the Showtime 90!

OK2Fly 09-26-2008 05:03 PM

RE: Showtime
 
The Showtime has a tendency to do that. The elevator throw between low and 3D rates is a really crappy spot, and it will make the plane "snap" even while the plane isn't stalled. It's a characteristic you have to watch out for. IMO, the Showtime 90 is a really good all 'round model, it just has that one bad tendency. I was able to correct this bad habit, but I don't think it will help you now.:eek:

Sorry for your loss.

Why is the plane discontinued?

HoverLoW 09-26-2008 05:37 PM

RE: Showtime
 

ORIGINAL: v8mini

just totaled my second Showtime 90[:o], I'm thinking this model isn't for me so will probably look for something else to put the MVVS 26 into.

only got 6 flights on this one, same as the first. not totally sure what went wrong this time, but i did notice a couple of times when i banked to the left and pulled some up elevator the model seemed to decide to bank to the right. when it actually crashed it was going in a bit of a dive(not fast) and i couldn't level it out not just from elevator but also rocking from left to right on the ailerons. before i knew it it was in the ground.
initially i check the radio gear and all servos were working ok, and surface hinges and linkages in place and move freely, but looking at the bits when i got home one aileron servo seems to have limited movement on one direction and the rod is slightly bent, will have a proper look at it later.

not too sure where to go next, think i need more of a sports pattern plane instead of a 3D type model, one things for sure i don't get on with Showtime 90's



edit.... just stripped the servo down, a hitec HS-925MG. it works ok under power, but to move by hand it has a bind spot. on the final gear there was a slither of metal from one of the teeth and it now has a step in it and still binds in that spot so will need a new gear. this is a result of the crash rather that cause.
Dude, this is something that a Showtime usually do.

Maybe you just figured out it to late, but it is not your problem, it's an aircraft design problem, so don't keep thinking bad about your skills. There's nothing wrong with you.

In fact, the Showtime has a huge (I mean HUGE) snap tendence. And this behavior can be worst if you decide to use a heavy engine. And Your MVVS 26 is truly a heavy one.

Mine is with an OS 160 FX. When it was in the beginning, I got the same problem as you, like a suprise. I was flying in a very high altitude making a rolling harrier and, than, when I stoped to roll, the plane just turned inside and stalled baaaadddd!!! I have the video. Probably happened the same with you. http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=us35LQWSK9w

But I was lucky and the plane did not crash, and than I just got what I should do to keep it flying and avoid those snaps. So I learned that my Showtime works this way: High speeds all the time. Slow speeds and full rates just in high alpha position.

Mine is alive yet, but I don't have any pleasure flying a plane that can crash for nothing. The truth is the Showtime is not a plane to heavy engines. Maybe you can get a Funtana and install a bigger engine. You can harm some flights features, but nothing like happens with the Showtime.

Maybe a good plane for your engine is a Nitro Planes Katana. I am crazy for one, but they are not selling here in Brazil. [&o]









OK2Fly 09-26-2008 09:04 PM

RE: Showtime
 
trainer droops, TRAINER DROOPS!!!

HoverLoW 09-26-2008 09:17 PM

RE: Showtime
 

ORIGINAL: OK2Fly

trainer droops, TRAINER DROOPS!!!
I didn't get it... [&:]

OK2Fly 09-26-2008 09:25 PM

RE: Showtime
 
It is the all-in-one supreme fix to the devastating snap problem!!![X(][X(][8D]

HoverLoW 09-26-2008 09:26 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Ohh.. Ok!! For sure!! :)

OK2Fly 09-26-2008 09:57 PM

RE: Showtime
 
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I ain't kidding!! They're a perfect fit too. Any snap habit flies out the window.

HoverLoW 09-26-2008 10:17 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Oh my God!!! Where did you find that stuff????

OK2Fly 09-26-2008 10:27 PM

RE: Showtime
 
They are "molded wing droops" for the Hangar-9 Mustang PTS. I got mine from Horizon Hobby.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN2835

Yea, it blew my mind!

Even with a heavy engine, the plane flies good.

v8mini 09-27-2008 04:07 AM

RE: Showtime
 
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here are a few pics of what was left, i understand i might be a characteristic of the model, but thinking about it i was probably flying it quite slower than i normally would so that probably wouldn't have help. i will look for a different model now, not sure what but will have to wait until i find another job.

only part not damaged is one elevator, so out of the two kits i only have two right hand elevators, and one right hand wing and one rudder that are any good, out of a total of 12 or 13 flights.


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