Are you ready to register your aircraft?
12-17-2015, 06:20 AM
#2651
Please don't sign it if you don't agree. Not everyone will. It's okay, really!
This is just a petition, not a final draft of a Constitutional amendment. (way too early for that!).
Its' only purpose is to show that there may be a significant amount of people that are dissatisfied and are asking for possible reconsideration of the current (and future) rules/regulations.
Regards,
Astro
This is just a petition, not a final draft of a Constitutional amendment. (way too early for that!).
Its' only purpose is to show that there may be a significant amount of people that are dissatisfied and are asking for possible reconsideration of the current (and future) rules/regulations.
Regards,
Astro
12-17-2015, 06:31 AM
#2652
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They have had a number chances to "make a example" out of a number of people after all this is a huge problem and it needs to be stopped and they have not plain and simple. Now more threats of fines and jail time. I would think that everyone knows just how this works " the charges are dropped" or they "plea bargained to a lesser charge " then there's my favorite charges dropped and they got probation and community service. I'm just not buying the "threats".
As far as the Change.org petition what difference does it make where it came from or who's idea? The point of it is to let the EC know how we feel and I'll do my best to promote it.
Mike.
As far as the Change.org petition what difference does it make where it came from or who's idea? The point of it is to let the EC know how we feel and I'll do my best to promote it.
Mike.
I like my comments the first time, sometimes even better the second time. No worries on who's idea the petition was, it's just good to see something more qualitative done. I note your promotion of it in threads, as well as your sig line. That's good. There is no doubt in my mind it will be more meaningful than the write in letter campaign. As of now he has 136 sigs, not a doubt it my mind that's more than the other campaign has, so good on him. The only change or addition I would have made was to set a time frame for collection of signatures, and then indicate who the petition would then be sent to, and when.
12-17-2015, 06:34 AM
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Please don't sign it if you don't agree. Not everyone will. It's okay, really!
This is just a petition, not a final draft of a Constitutional amendment. (way too early for that!).
Its' only purpose is to show that there may be a significant amount of people that are dissatisfied and are asking for possible reconsideration of the current (and future) rules/regulations.
Regards,
Astro
This is just a petition, not a final draft of a Constitutional amendment. (way too early for that!).
Its' only purpose is to show that there may be a significant amount of people that are dissatisfied and are asking for possible reconsideration of the current (and future) rules/regulations.
Regards,
Astro
12-17-2015, 06:48 AM
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As a way to track the owner. In other words, if someone looses one while flying where they are not using best judgement, the investigators will have a registration number as a lead to work with. Much like automobile registration. When you run that red light, either a peace officer or a camera is going to look at your license plate and issue you a ticket or if your car was caught on camera breaking the law, investigators have a lead to start with.
12-17-2015, 07:03 AM
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Even if one excludes fixed wing model aircraft and model helicopters, and limits the definition of "drone" to multirotor aircraft, there are still a multitude of variables that can affect the definition:
- Size (dimensions ranging from a few inches to a few feet)
- Number of rotors
- FPV capability
- Camera/photography equipment (ranging from a $5 camera to a $50,000 professional grade gimbal/camera system, and/or infrared imaging equipment.)
- Range capability (anywhere from 1km to several miles)
- GPS guidance capability
- Autonomous flying capability
Virtually every done on the market has a unique mix of the aforementioned parameters. There is a huge difference between a $15 micro "drone" from Wal Mart and a $100,000 hexacoptor that can take record cinema-grade video and fly several miles with no input from a pilot. There is also a nearly infinite amount of "gray area" between these two extremes. If the AMA were to exclude "dones" from traditional model aircraft, where should they draw the line? What kind of operational definition should be used?
12-17-2015, 07:08 AM
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But do you think that person is going to register? And even if they register are they going to put the registration number in the aircraft? You are assuming compliance. I am guessing there will be an enormous amount of non-compliance. Sure, you will get some AMA members and some others who are scared of our gov't no matter how stupid and useless the law is, but I think overall the FAA is in for a rude awakening as to the number of owners who actually register. Look at the Safe Act in NY. Very low compliance. This is how you tell the gov't to piss off. What can the FAA do if very few people register? Not much.
The registration system will keep honest people honest, but it will have little effect beyond that.
12-17-2015, 07:10 AM
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The registration process will provide the FAA with a database and a conduit to provide information and educational materials to registered individuals. Education of the users is the primary objective, do's, don'ts, etc. prompting safety and reducing risk for users of the NAS as well as persons on the ground (don't fly over crowds of people, something we all knew as a don't, right?)
Here's a scenario, Imagine the POTUS is flying into town and a NOTAM is issued for a specific radius restricting any RC flying for a period of time while AF1 is utilizing the airspace. Likely any registered personnel will receive that notification via their registered email address, risk reduction (safety). Sure, we were all aware that the AMA forwards that information around, but that doesn't reach non-AMA NAS users (risk).
As a community of traditional RC flyers we should consider that the reason for the registration was not guys who are and have been flying at traditional AMA fields around the country not causing problems for many years, (most of us here).
The registration system is for the individual who requires operators to ground full scale aircraft trying to fight forest fires due to RC operators taking videos of the fire (risk). The registration requirement for the traditional AMA/RC flyers is basically collateral damage to a ever expanding technology that's cheap, easy to operate, and readily available by anyone who wants it at a moments notice (risk).
Will it work? Time will tell. But with the forecast of a million or so cheap, easy to operate RC aircraft to be under the tree next week they felt action was appropriate to educate those users (risk reduction=safety).
Here's a scenario, Imagine the POTUS is flying into town and a NOTAM is issued for a specific radius restricting any RC flying for a period of time while AF1 is utilizing the airspace. Likely any registered personnel will receive that notification via their registered email address, risk reduction (safety). Sure, we were all aware that the AMA forwards that information around, but that doesn't reach non-AMA NAS users (risk).
As a community of traditional RC flyers we should consider that the reason for the registration was not guys who are and have been flying at traditional AMA fields around the country not causing problems for many years, (most of us here).
The registration system is for the individual who requires operators to ground full scale aircraft trying to fight forest fires due to RC operators taking videos of the fire (risk). The registration requirement for the traditional AMA/RC flyers is basically collateral damage to a ever expanding technology that's cheap, easy to operate, and readily available by anyone who wants it at a moments notice (risk).
Will it work? Time will tell. But with the forecast of a million or so cheap, easy to operate RC aircraft to be under the tree next week they felt action was appropriate to educate those users (risk reduction=safety).
12-17-2015, 07:10 AM
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But do you think that person is going to register? And even if they register are they going to put the registration number in the aircraft? You are assuming compliance. I am guessing there will be an enormous amount of non-compliance. Sure, you will get some AMA members and some others who are scared of our gov't no matter how stupid and useless the law is, but I think overall the FAA is in for a rude awakening as to the number of owners who actually register. Look at the Safe Act in NY. Very low compliance. This is how you tell the gov't to piss off. What can the FAA do if very few people register? Not much.
12-17-2015, 07:12 AM
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There are also the ignorant. That is they are ignorant of the FAR's and don't understand they are doing something dangerous. But I bet they would also be ignorant of the registration requirement.
We and the AMA should be hot and heavy when the first incident of an unregistered UAV occurs. Howl loudly that registration did nothing to protect the NAS.
We and the AMA should be hot and heavy when the first incident of an unregistered UAV occurs. Howl loudly that registration did nothing to protect the NAS.
12-17-2015, 07:15 AM
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12-17-2015, 07:17 AM
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12-17-2015, 07:31 AM
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There are also the ignorant. That is they are ignorant of the FAR's and don't understand they are doing something dangerous. But I bet they would also be ignorant of the registration requirement.
We and the AMA should be hot and heavy when the first incident of an unregistered UAV occurs. Howl loudly that registration did nothing to protect the NAS.
We and the AMA should be hot and heavy when the first incident of an unregistered UAV occurs. Howl loudly that registration did nothing to protect the NAS.
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12-17-2015, 07:47 AM
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12-17-2015, 07:55 AM
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12-17-2015, 07:59 AM
#2667
You actually think someone should be fined and jailed for not registering a toy? Are you serious? This kind of thinkning is why the USA is numero uno for the amount of people in jail per 100,000. Really sad. The fact that anyone thinks another person should be fined and jailed for not registering a toy is sickening and repulsive. I guess since the gov't can't throw as many people in jail anymore for a practically harmless, non-toxic plant they have to find a new source of bodies for the privatized prison system. Our society is soooooooo messed up! We don't even operate in reality anymore.
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12-17-2015, 08:05 AM
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You actually think someone should be fined and jailed for not registering a toy? Are you serious? This kind of thinkning is why the USA is numero uno for the amount of people in jail per 100,000. Really sad. The fact that anyone thinks another person should be fined and jailed for not registering a toy is sickening and repulsive. I guess since the gov't can't throw as many people in jail anymore for a practically harmless, non-toxic plant they have to find a new source of bodies for the privatized prison system. Our society is soooooooo messed up! We don't even operate in reality anymore.
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FYI...the "govt" is looking for ways to get people out of prison..or keep them out..see the myriad of changes to drug possession charges as evidence of this.
12-17-2015, 08:07 AM
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He was and is a prime target for "marking a example of " was he not?
Mike
12-17-2015, 08:13 AM
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12-17-2015, 08:15 AM
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It's probably best to speak to your reality as opposed to everyone else's. Ya...I have no problem with someone being arrested, fined and throw in jail even if they break the law. It's as simple as that. You've reduced the issue to a ridiculous conclusion...that someone could be arrested for just not registering a toy. If you can't envision a circumstance where property damage or bodily injury could be sustained as a result of reckless operation of these "toys"...some of which are hardly that...then I don't know what to say. Look at some of the other threads where people were predicting impacts with all types of civilian aircraft. How about if an 8 pound octodrone "toy" falls out of the air and hits you or a member of your family as your walking down the street, minding your own business, and causing injury or harm. Don't bother saying it can't/won't/didn't happen, it already has. Would that sicken and repulse you? Would you feel differently then?
FYI...the "govt" is looking for ways to get people out of prison.or keep them out..see the myriad of changes to drug possession charges as evidence of this.
FYI...the "govt" is looking for ways to get people out of prison.or keep them out..see the myriad of changes to drug possession charges as evidence of this.
12-17-2015, 08:16 AM
#2674
Sporty:
IFU mean Full Scale try Here. Works great if they aren't Updating. Which they do quit often lately.
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IFU mean Full Scale try Here. Works great if they aren't Updating. Which they do quit often lately.
http://www.landings.com/evird.acgi$pass*193800885!_h-www.landings.com/_landings/pages/search/search_nnr.html