How many years has it been and your still not over it???? my my
Didnt know there were rules when or where one could edit or add to a post.

1. Please cite source rule that limits how long someone can hold opinions before the rule requires them to get "over it?"
2. Considering that their lack of transparency, inept managment, continued loss of money on the magazine, etc. etc. happened as recently yesterday, the answer is less than one.

There isn't. However...

When you make a one sentence comment, and someone quotes that entire comment in a response, that creates an impression in the reader. Namely you said one thing and someone responded to the entirety of what you said.

But when you go back, and retroactively add considerable content to your original comment -- the respondent's original reply now appears to have quoted only a portion of your statement. And that creates a different impression in the reader, namely the reply chose to only address one of your points. That is not true of course, because at the time of your orginal statement, there was only one thing to comment upon.

Again, no rule against it, but it does misrepresent what you said initially, Fortunately the fix is easy, go back and edit your original post to show what was ADDED AFTER other's commented.

Dont feel the need to edit that post I missrepresent nothing besides there is a notice below the post stating it has been edited. If I feel lke editing/adding to my posts so be it. Feel free to edit/add to your reply. It seems you had no problem editing post number 50

Besides look at the time my post was edited. It actually was before your post was entered.

I believe there's a big difference between editing to correct a spelling, punctuation, or spacing error and editing that substantially adds to the record. My edit of post 50 was the former, your edit of post 46 was the latter.

So what? I edited post 50 within 2 minutes of posting. Not sure that's demonstrative of anything.

Let me explain it to you slowly. I edited my post before you even posted your reply DUH!!!!

I wouldn't expect you to understand how a substantive change nearly 15 minutes after the original post is different than spelling / punctuation corrections within 5 minutes of the original post.

You do realize that when people send single vote write-ins like former POTUS or something similar, they're mocking AMA.

I see they've updated the webpage to include full vote details. Can't believe there's so much resistance to transparency that the first reaction is to post less rather than more. Publishing more only when called on it.

So what is your point or lack thereof. I didn't mean ta stump ya come on Franklin keep up.
Really could care less about how you think someone should post.
Maybe you should put a guide or something like Frank's guide to public posting.

For those that care about such things the page has been updated with the full results.
https://www.modelaircraft.org/ama-or...ection-results

Franklin did I read correctly that you have not joined a club in 10 years. Are you a member in good standing of the AMA or have you let that lapse as well?

Well, given that I've said multiple times that I've got access to the EC minutes, you're a smart guy - figure it out.

As for clubs, yes. No use for them, at least those locally. As someone who doesn't have a Freudian need to fly big things, clubs in area have little value for me. Combination of high cost, substandard facilities (mostly no paved runway) in closest club, and distance / time to get to/from. It's about 15 miles one way, plus time to unpack, set up, wait for the 3D types to stop hovering 25 feet in front of flight stations, etc. So I'm happy to fly smaller stuff that I can operate within 100 yards of my house, spend that $100 year in club fee savings on planes, radios, and batteries. Nearly $1000 in savings so far that's gone into this and other discretionary spending hobbies. Not to mention gas costs. Plus I don't have to deal with the social crap. When I go to fly, I go to fly. Not socialize. If I want the latter, I go to a bar. And if by some chance I develop a "need" to fly bigger stuff, I just drive out to my cabin and fly off a dirt road out there (which by the way is smoother than the "club" field).

I see where this is going.....next we will see prop making motion to ban Franklin from AMA membership! Oh, wait....prop isn't even an AMA member!! LOL I gotta hand it to ya prop, for all of the yelling and screaming you do in here about people just whining and not doing anything, you have ZERO skin in the game, yet here you are.....

Yep but he knows what is happening at every AMA club field around the country. Of course it’s a “ Freudian “ need to have large airplanes but apparently not to boast about a very rare and expensive Brandy or to throw out Naval Commander retired in just about every thread. I wonder what the appropriate title is for someone who makes up a fictitious name to enter a site that kicked him out to do spread lies?

Astro riding in on his white horse to deflect the question in 5…….4…….3……2……

I think everyone now notices how I have mentioned the troll account and lies several times now and also notice how Astro always comes to the rescue and Franklin hasn’t said A single word about it. Kinda what we expect from those two. Astro feels perfectly justified in calling people Narcissistic etc and defends his rudeness by stating “ observed personality traits “ of course when one mentions the observation of his unwavering devotion to Franklin it’s called out as a slur. Classic example of hypocrisy.

Franky come on how hard would it be for one of the minions to either let you use their log on or copy and past the info for you? Not that you have but you haven't answered the question now have you? As it remains unanswered it appears we are seeing your delightful little two step avoiding a direct answer. Lets try it again. Are you presently a member in good standing of the AMA? After all in your next statement there doesn't seem to be anything that you would find that would compel you to join?

Wow I can see why you don't belong to a club. Only speculation on my part but usually the reception you receive is proportionate to how you present yourself to the club membership. Could it be possible your reception has been lacking because the impression you left was also lacking.

AMA member years ago when I first started flying in the USA let it go when I became aware I was covered better with the Reciprocal Agreement. Still bought the mag from my US hobby shop though because I enjoy reading it.

FAA member when it first was required. Renewed so its still current.

When the reciprocal agreement ended Joined AMA and took the Trust test.

I have visited the USA 3 times now to retrieve packages at my mailbox that have been held since Sept 2020, to visit my favorite hobby shop and to visit friends and fellow flyers I haven't seen for well over a year now. I am all set to go flying now as soon as the opportunity presents itself.

Anything else I can help you out with instead of you speculating wildly about me????

As far as attempting to get Franky banned from the AMA its not my concern let him be his own reason for any action taken by the AMA. Besides he skips around the answer when asked if he's even a member in good standing. If he isn't then there would be no way to ban him would there?

See above.


Or - it could be exactly as I say: I don't have a Freudian need to fly big planes, don't like to spend money on things that don't provide value commensurate with the money spent, and/or I prefer flying over socializing.

Come on don't you find it entertaining when he latches on to a new word. Almost like Spelling with Darnell. Take for instance his latest one Dithspickable kinda reminds me of Daffy Duck

So no more two step are you a current AMA member or not a simple yes or no should suffice.

The beauty of my country is that I don' have to answer your question if I choose not to answer.

My whole point is why would you want to ban somebody simply for having an opinion. Shows your true colors right there.

Since you actually replied, I will gladly retract my incorrect statement and acknowledge that you are an AMA member. Did you join as a full member, or did you join under the new affiliate member thing? Does an affiliate member enjoy full membership benefits i.e. voting?

Astro

Absolutely I'm just wondering if your someone with a stake in the organization or like a few other none members on here just outsiders throwing feces at the door.

Well, you can just keep wondering.

I, on the other hand, will continue to expend my discretionary time as I see fit.

Didn't say I wanted to ban anyone did I? Franklin may prove to be the reason for his own fate so be it. Besides your the one who brought up banning Franklin not me. This is beyond cherry picking its putting false words in someone's mouth even worse than an outright lie.

A Canadian cannot join as a full member of the AMA just as an AMA member cannot join MAAC as a full member. Keeps the association from being accused of raiding members. Associate members usually do not enjoy voting privileges, hold office etc. It allows them to participate at fields, clubs and events like we did in the past. I cannot put forth motions which might make it extremely difficult to get anyone banned. If I join a club in the US it will depend on the club rules if I am allowed to vote or hold office in that club. A friend who spends the winter in Florida is a club flying instructor so I think it would depend on the club.

How about an answer rather than your usual deflection? I would simply call it another account. If one's account has been banned, I would say opening a new account is just that, an account. One account, one voice. A "troll" or "sock puppet" account would be when a member opens two accounts simultaneously and uses them to act as two different people in order to further the agenda of one or both of the personas. Pretty simple. In fact, I would say that the way you and prop operate on here, with your tag-teaming and building off of each others' snide comments and personal attacks of Franklin and I, would be a more accurate portrayal of how a, "sock puppet" operates.

"come to the rescue"? Nah, just pointing out your spin, bias and eagerness to use your relationship with moderators to have someone you disagree with silenced. Franklin has treated you no worse than you treat him in these forums, yet his account gets closed? If you can't see the hypocrisy in that, you are only fooling yourself.

I have zero devotion to Franklin. You and prop can claim that all you want, but it simply doesn't make it so. There are plenty of things that Franklin and I disagree on, but they are simply disagreements of opinion, not the factless, baseless and emotionally-charged personal attacks that you and prop sling constantly.

Boy, the narcissistic comment sure touched a nerve. Is narcissistic a rude adjective? Or is it, as you say, simply a word that has a meaning? Is it rude to call a narcissist, a narcissist? I think not. "defend my rudeness"? LOL Let's break your spin down, shall we? You alluded that calling you a narcissist was some kind of personal attack, so I provided a definition of the word and said that your posts and behavior on these forums supports that. It was not, "defending my rudeness" at all, simply providing context and justification and taking responsibility for my statements. Something that you and prop never do.

Astro

No, you did not, it was speculation on my part based on your statements on these threads over the last few years. You have made strong statements like, "Why would the AMA put up with his crap?". It is pretty easy to see what the intent of a statement like that is. I'll break it down for you: A member pays dues and follows the rules, there is zero recourse AMA can take on said member. The only other option is to assume it is your opinion that if an organization simply doesn't like somebody, they actually have the power to expel them. Again, pretty simple.

You've made a lot of statements here lately using the disclaimer, "pure speculation on my part" followed by some wild concoction of your imagination, with zero basis in reality. Do you REALLY believe that is any different than what you claim is "cherry picking" and "putting false words in someone's mouth"? C'mon, man!

Astro