We do not have a email address on file for the Safety Coordinator, ****** *******, this is a requirement to hold this position. We cannot process the charter without this information please contact me as soon as possible.


Lois Mock
AMA Club Secretary
[email protected]
(800)435-9262 ext. 291


Just sent to me awhile ago,
I guess you hafta own a computer now to be a safety officer of ama or lose your charter. This bunch gets stranger each day.....
Maybe they will give us a grant to buy the S.O. a computer....[>:]


Ron

Not at all...you simply need to have a valid e-mail address to be safety coordinator. Local library, internet cafe, neighbor, friend, you at work...any of these might suffice as a means to acquire and check a free email account.

And it's a sensible requirement, imo, as changes to the safety code, or new information about safe practices might be critically important, and require a known and viable method of immediate communication.

Requiring e-mail for all club officers would be excessive, imo, but requiring email for a safety coordinator makes perfect sense, imo.

I thought AMA had a monthly newsletter to get important info and ARF Ads to the members,
in particular, to the thousands of AMA members that are not actually in any local club that would need to know Safety Code Changes or other Safety Officer stuff (since they are their own SO)

Maybe they are gearing up to go all electronic, and eliminate MA. Do everything by website or email newsletters, and this is just a trial run.

Mandatory computer ownership and email for all AMA members. But no more magazine. Yay.

I rarely do email on my computer these days. Most times when I open it up on the computer it's just to clear out all the backlog.

This actually started last year or the year before, and yes it is a stupid policy.

I would think that a phone contact for the club would suffice. Any of the officers......wouldn't even have to be the safety officer himself.

It takes 3 days for a letter to get where it needs to go......nothing could possibly be so urgent where 3 days will make that much of a difference.
The children of the Nintendo generation have finally come of age and this is why we have this fast food mentality invading every nook and cranny of our daily lives.
These are the folks who walk around all day talking into those "things" hanging off the sides of their faces.
When the lights do go out, these technology dependent types have a life expectancy of about 30 minutes in the cold.

Exactly. Some of you people try to pretend that life is far more difficult than it is.

The original poster never said it was difficult. He said it just got stranger every day.

I never said it was difficult, I said it was a STUPID policy.

Presumably, the purpose of the e-mail is to quickly disseminate messages. So under the local library and internet café scenario the safety officer would need to make a trip every day to check e-mail.

If the safety officer does not need to check the-e-mail every day, or even once a week, then the information can just be sent out in the magazine.

For a guy who said nothing about difficulty, what you propose sure does make it more difficult than it needs to be. Nothing in the club kit says that the safety officer needs to check their e-mail at a particular interval.

It's just another means of contact. It's only as big of a deal as people choose to make of it. Then again, the denizens of this particular forum have a reputation for making the simplest of things into life-changing challenges. Drama queens, in other words. I just spent 45 minutes in a clinic waiting room with my father, and I couldn't help but notice of all the complaining, gossip, and "why do they need to know if I snore?" sort of stuff that I heard from the clutch of old ladies there. They'd fit right in here.

Mike,

Sure, one can get an email address, and then go to the library or someplace else to check if he has any emails.

But you've got to askyourself, why is AMA insisting on this? Is it for "instant" notification, or just for the convenience of those needing to contact someone? If it's for "instant" communication, then is it really going to work very well for those who don't have a PC and would be expected to go to the library or wherever to check if they have received anything. That's not really a realistic solution to THAT problem.

If it's strictly for the convenience of AMA staffers, and to reduce mailing costs or manpower costs to make phone calls, then that's another issue. Even then, should the AMA expect club officials to purchase equipment or services they may not want, just for the staffers convenience? Or should AMA contact folks as needed through whatever means that individual would prefer?

I would be willing to bet that 90% or more of clubs can currently be contacted by email. Does it really matter if that contact is the safety officer or not? I don't think so. Would it save AMA some money or time if that was 100%? Probably yes, but should AMA be working for the convenience of it's members, or should it's members be working for AMA's convenience?

IMO the mindset that AMA won't work with a chartered club that doesn't have an email address for it's safety officer is not a mindset that should be fostered.

You seem to be intimately familiar with the requirements of being a drama queen.

Bureaucracy for the sake of bureaucracy serves no purpose.

It’s a STUPID rule

What's amusing is that so many people think this is a stupid requirement, but then you see many of the same people up in arms because the AMA does not send out notifications about important items like FAA issued TFRs and so on.

Our S.O. is a older gentleman that has no email addy or computer for that matter. Why should he have to buy, learn how to run one, an make trips to town for something that they can send me as club Prez.

Matter of fact, how the hell did the ama exist before they had computers? Answer that....



You seem to be the one in the glass house if you ask me...


Ron

You always gotta get your .02 in don't ya? Don't you belong over on the sissy's forum anyway?



Ron

They have all of us officers phone #'s an me Prez an V.P.'s email addy. Heck they didn't even bother sending me this above email, it was sent to our V.P. an he sent it on to me...


Ron

Thats a BIG 10-4 Good Buddy




Ron

You can list the email address of another officer for the SO's email, they have accepted that in previous years. I am not sure but I think the original idea was if there is a 'major accident" at your field the SO could notify Muncie immediately by email. How that is better than the telephone I don't know. Also, if they need to send some emergency notice out to SO's they can do it with a mass email. I understand the purpose, but making it a charter requirement seems to much. The paperwork and requirements for a club grows a little every year, just like all other bureaucracies.

She provided an 800#. Did anybody call and ask what to do if S. O. doesn't have an E-mail?

The Safety Officer also is to report incidents/accidents that occur. And as was already mentioned, to get major accident info to the AMA as soon as possible. All of this can be done on a computer in 1 minute! It IS a good idea.

YES, I did. She finally called me back. She said some committee made this rule an that the way it is. So we ended up using the VP's email addy an everything will just go to him. They are more interested in selling your email probably than anything.


Thats alright though, next year we just won't have a club anymore. The land owner says he has enough ins to cover anything. The guys can pay the $58 an go fly then.


Ron

The charter package states,"Safety Coodinator must have access to E-mail." All he needs is access. So if another officer has e-mail just use thier's
Drama over.

Of course I'm sure everybody at your club takes their computer to the field with'em....

I guess they don't have them telephone things where you live anymore?




edit-this is met for the guy below ya kemo




Ron

You're a pretty good example of what a drama queen is. Who said he has to buy or operate a computer? Cripes, solve your problem in 30 seconds rather than whining, complaining, moaning, and generally trying to make a stink. You've got a computer - - take 30 seconds and create a Yahoo address.

It's just not that hard.

You know what, you seem to butt into everything here. Why do you even bother looking at these threads if you don't like whos in it? Your a typical northerner anyway.



Ron