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Old 02-08-2004 | 12:28 AM
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I have a 7 channel rx. Its numbered to 7 channels. Are you guys saying its really an 8 if I add a battery Y ? I am sorry for asking such newby questions. I have a lot of stick time with RC Planes..... Just 4 channel planes. I never needed or had interest until this plane. I want to get into multiple channel warbirds later on. Thanks for treating me like a human about this !
Old 02-08-2004 | 01:07 AM
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No, it's still a seven channel Rx., but if you use the Y for the battery lead on one end of the Y, you can also plug a servo into the other end of the Y. This would give you all 7 channels to work with. On an 8 channel Rx. without the Y, you still only have seven operational channels and the battery lead is plugged into the 8 channel. If you put a Y on an 8 channel Rx. you would then have all 8 channels functional for servos with the battery lead in one end of the Y.

Hang in there. We all ahve been there and it's just a matter of what you have had a little experience with. I'm still learning which is the frustrating, but fun thing about the hobby. We all want want to know everthing now. In the end we learn that we really need each other, and thus the sharing of info based on what you have been exposed to. I doubt anyone has learned everything you need to know. By the time you learn one thing somethig new comes out and you have an opportunity to learn something new all over again. Have fun.

Hope this helps.
Old 02-08-2004 | 03:20 AM
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A reversed Y connector is a Y connector with a reverser wired into one of the leads.
I have used this one on my old Super Stunts 60 and a Futaba 6XAS:
[link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAFN1&P=7]EMS Servo Reverser[/link]
Using one of these will allow both flap servos to move the flaps downwards with one channel instead of the one up and one down like with ailerons and a standard Y connector.
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I read, and still dont find reversed Y ? Please set me straight. I am still mis understanding this.[&o]
Old 02-08-2004 | 10:55 AM
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Got it. Thanks. That is the wonderful thing about a real RC or any board. Thanks guys. I'll refire this thread when I get back from the Races and all in Daytona. Going to be a real busy month for me in florida. When I start assembly.... I'll double check on this thread to make sure I have the correct servos hooked up and going correctly. Keith
Old 02-08-2004 | 11:52 AM
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Fubar-One - Unless I am wrong, this would limit the ability of the Ultrastick .If you use a reversing Y this will keep you from being able to mix the flaps on a switch to work as an extension of the ailerons for flaperons on this airplane. This is why I keep the flaps on a separate channel. The concept of the reversing Y makes good sense if you want to use less channels, but in doing so it limts what you can do. Always a trade off.
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So to do full crow and use mixing of flaps to ailerons...... I will need a true 8 channel rx?
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Put a Y- on the throttle and the battery, thus using 1 channel
(note: you can plug the Y ( not a reversing Y )into any channel and accomplish the same with the battery lead. I simply suggested the throttle servo), 2 ch. for ailerons, 2 ch. for flaps, 1 ch for elevators, 1 for rudder. The 7 channel Rx. you have will be fine with this set up. Again, I used the 8 channel Rx. simply because I had one and therefore didn't need to use the Y. Either way is fine.

You will need to read up on your Tx. and the Ultrastick book that came with the kit so you better understand how to set up the airplane and do the mixing and switch selections. This can be confusing and difficult to try and explain in RCU threads. Use the book to take you through each step. I promise it will be easier this way.
Old 02-08-2004 | 01:53 PM
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Yeah, as I am reading now, what you said is basically what I came up with. I just did not know you could put voltage in through a channel ! Wow.
Old 02-08-2004 | 06:23 PM
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I tried a 12X6 prop today and it made a big difference.
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info from the website on the weight difference with the muffler. Then again, you have one of these and I don;t. Just passing along what I found by checking ti out. Could be bad info, but this is what I got from the site.

Irvine 18.2 oz. W/M, 1.7 BHP, 8.59 cc
46 FX 16.45 oz. W/M, 1.62 BHP, 7.45 cc
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Well, I wasnt suggesting one for the Ultra Stick, I was merely explaining what one was. I used one with my SS60 because I was using a Futaba 6XAS and full actual crow was near impossible with that radio without using one. You need to put the ailerons on channel 1 and 6 which leaves channel 5 for the flaps on that stinking knob it uses. I know you cannot have both crow and full span ailerons using that radio. It is possible with an Airtronics 6 channel whateveritwas but not the 6XAS. I dont remember all the details and have since upgraded to a Futaba 9C. The 6XAS has been assigned to slope duty.
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Fubar-One - Unless I am wrong, this would limit the ability of the Ultrastick .If you use a reversing Y this will keep you from being able to mix the flaps on a switch to work as an extension of the ailerons for flaperons on this airplane. This is why I keep the flaps on a separate channel. The concept of the reversing Y makes good sense if you want to use less channels, but in doing so it limts what you can do. Always a trade off.
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Thats ok, long as the flaps work. I am good with that.
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I'm still a little scared to come in with crow. I tried it up high a time or two. I have taken off with flaps down and it really gets up there quick.
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Fubar-One - I wasn't challenging you on this. Based on the questions Dart373 was asking I was simply trying to apply the concept, good or bad, to the Ultrastick. Please, no offense intended.
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You both have been a good help. Thanks to all. When I get the plane up..... its going to be fun... It looks from the way I read I cant do a crow on final anyways with the 6xas, which is not why I bought this particular radio anyway. It will be fun to just have the flaps I think. As always... the plane will far exceed what I can do.
Old 03-09-2004 | 12:42 PM
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OK. Now that I am building this plane, make it simple for me. I dont want to be too busy on the sticks. Here is what I want, what do I need ?
I want to be able to use the flaps and make the ailerons work normally. No crow. Just flaps... I will not use crow now. Too much happening for me. How do I Y and do I need a reversing Y for just flaps and ailerons. Thanks. Keith
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Use a 6 or more channel receiver. Use channel 6 for flaps. You'll need a connector that allows two servos to plug into one channel without reversing. Use channel 1 for ailerons with a Y cable that reverses one servo.

Or, you could use channel for flaps, but you only get two settings: up and down. Then you can use channels 1 and 6 for ailerons that also act as spoilerons if you engage the airbrakes. Good for short landing rolls.
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Mike, which channel for the flaps if I use the airbrakes ?? You left it out. And also, the next thing is... When airbrakes are Up, your locked in, no aileron control right ?? I'd like to do this. If I just hook it up the first way you mentioned, there is nothing else the plane can do but ailerons and flaps. Where as the second way, is flaps,ailer, and air brake right? Correct me if I am wrong. This is sorta confusing.
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I got mine about two years ago. Built it as per instruction, four servos in the wings, set up by the book on throws used a 652 Jr Radio and origonally powered it with a Magnum 61 fourstroke. Climb rate was good, roll rate was excellent, Crow and flaps were extremely fun, basically a bullet proof plane. I changed the engine twice to two strokes (Super tigre 45 and MDS 58) even with flaps it took three times the distance to take off. The Magnum made it an excellent all around toy, I did change it one more time. The Saito 72 power it best of all, 2 foot roll out with flaps and 10 foot roll out without. With flaps it would take it into immediate hover about 5 feet off the ground with the Saito 72 powerplant and 13x6 prop. Kind of scarey when you don't expect the hover and it is floating back towards the pit fence. Crow is nice but it makes controlling the plane on landing very sluggish, I did use it loose lots of altitude but made my final touch down without it activated, also flaps made the plane float the entire run way at idle. Very neat trick but I still prefer to land without.
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Mike, which channel for the flaps if I use the airbrakes ?? You left it out. And also, the next thing is... When airbrakes are Up, your locked in, no aileron control right ?? I'd like to do this. If I just hook it up the first way you mentioned, there is nothing else the plane can do but ailerons and flaps. Where as the second way, is flaps,ailer, and air brake right? Correct me if I am wrong. This is sorta confusing.
Great to hear about the magnum 61, but I still need this answered.. Thanks guys.

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